Re: 155 smks for hunting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr. Humble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Weda, is, as usual fill of do do. Hollow point/plastic tipped match bullets did not even exist before "my time". I still have several 100 172 gr FA Boattail FMJ (that's FULL METAL JACKET) bullets that were the standard for target shooting in 30-06s and 300 H&Hs long before our ex WY expert ever shot anything.
For anyone who has spent 1000s of dollars on a hunt to suggest that he would pass up (pack up and go home) a 7x7 Elk or a 65" Moose or a full curl Bighorn because it was not standing broadside where an enlarged varmint bullet might kill it is just plain silly when a properly constructed hunting bullet would ensure a clean kill even with a Texas heart shot.
I too read the story on Bergers on goats and a few Red Stags. I'd rather have two holes and broken shoulders than an invisible entry wound, no exit wound and no blood trail. I shot one Antelope years ago with an 150 gr .308 early Ballistic tip (pretty much built like an A Max) at 200 yards with a 300 H&H. It sure killed the Lope, but all I recovered (no exit) was an empty jacket and lots of blood shot meat filled with lead fragments. BTW hit NO bones!
All of this smacks of the same ego trip that encourages 1000 yards big game shooting. "Even though no experienced big game hunter/writer suggest that match bullets are a real substitute for bullets marketed for hunting, I REPEAT I know more than them and I REPEAT I can do it!!"
As for "empirical evidence", lots of poachers use 22 rimfires to kill whitetail deer.
Does that "empirical evidence" suggest that a 22 is suitable deer cartridge?
There is just no reason on earth to use anything to hunt with except a hunting bullet EXCEPT to stoke one's ego. They do nothing better and most things worse insofar as bullet performance across a broad range of conditions.
If you want to "push the envelope", why don't you try taking up traditional bowhunting with a longbow, rather than target shooting at live targets?
That requires real hunting... you know stalking, camo, using cover and wind to actually OUTSMART the game. (yes you have to get off the ATV)
I'll stick with my TSXs and hand sharpened broadheads. They always give full penetration and a good blood trail.
The "no lead" law can't come too soon for the sake of our big game population!
And I thought Gump was an only child.............
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Laughable. For a publisher, you have very poor reading and comprehension skills. You are so hell bent on finding something negative to say that you don't understand nor comprehend what is being said.
What I said was guys your age are using them. They were being used long before these boards were around.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I REPEAT I know more than them and I REPEAT I can do it</div></div>
Says who? Never mind it's obvious.
Have you ever used a match bullet to kill big game?
(crickets chirping ) your opinion and your pseudo factual data hold as much water as a sieve.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is just no reason on earth to use anything to hunt with except a hunting bullet EXCEPT to stoke one's ego. They do nothing better and most things worse insofar as bullet performance across a broad range of conditions.</div></div>
This pretty much proves you know little. But hold in high regard everything you read, or have published for some "expert"
I've hunt as much from an atv and you have pulled a gooseneck to a 10,000 FS trailhead.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll stick with my TSXs and hand sharpened broadheads. They always give full penetration and a good blood trail.
The "no lead" law can't come too soon for the sake of our big game population!</div></div>
because everyone knows an arrow kills 100% faster and quicker than a bullet,never mind it out penetrates every time.
wow... you are right gump isn't an only child. He's got a much older brother. You must be pissed you never got the attention he did.