Broke out the quiet rifle & stalked a crow. This guy was the size of a bear cub. Used a Win Mod 67 (from the 40's? ), REALLY accurate, trigger has mucho creep tho. Like the one my dad had on the NC farm. He shot drinking straws in half, shooting with rifle over his shoulder, backwards, with a mirror to view sights, & pulled trigger with thumb. try it sometime (with open sights)...