2403-yard shot on a can of red bull, sounds like a load of bull.
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2200 yards at game is nothing short of retarded.
There is a 2203yd target at spearpoint in KS. It’s 36” square. The match results are easy to look up if you’ve never shot there. The people shooting this are using all the data and have plenty of time. It’s missed way more often than it’s hit. And that’s not even cold bore! Most matches they’re shooting a 2073yd target right before and just slightly below the 2203.
I have a 66% ipsc in my target array at 700yd. The amount of times people miss that thing is very telling of people capability. I shoot with some pretty good shooters too.
There is a 2203yd target at spearpoint in KS. It’s 36” square. The match results are easy to look up if you’ve never shot there. The people shooting this are using all the data and have plenty of time. It’s missed way more often than it’s hit. And that’s not even cold bore! Most matches they’re shooting a 2073yd target right before and just slightly below the 2203.
I have a 66% ipsc in my target array at 700yd. The amount of times people miss that thing is very telling of people capability. I shoot with some pretty good shooters too.
Or, I could be wrong. At least one person here doesn't think it is a problem to shoot at game animals at 2200 yards. If that is okay or even possible as some suggest, then I guess you can hit the center of a red bull can at 2403 yards.
My personal limit is 400 yards but I am really more comfortable at 300 yards and in.
So, time for me to worship some dirt, I guess.
My personal limit is 400 yards but I am really more comfortable at 300 yards and in.
So, time for me to worship some dirt, I guess.
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This is true, but I also think it is starting to change. There is a growing number of people who value authenticity above click bait. There is fatigue associated with going to all these "The Best...", "The Longest...", "The Farthest..." self-aggrandizing videos and people are starting to see through them.
Of course, there will always be the window lickers who can't see past the bamboozle, but let them live in their own little land. Who wants to engage with ignorance anyway?
Cold bore is tough and requires you to really know how your rifle will react. You don't get that after a handful of cold-bore shots, and you don't get it without a lot of data gathering, especially at range.
The longest shot was made 3 years ago with the then new Razor Gen 3. All kinds of crazy canted MOA rail on it. 4.4 miles and it took 69 tries. Definitely not cold bore on that.
I was watching Texas Predator Hunting podcast and Wade Chandler said he did a 5 cold bore group. That is, he would get that gun out once a day and take just one shot. He did that 5 days in the row. He says he got a dispersion pattern indistinguishable from just taking 5 shots at one sitting.
But I still surmise that even with a rifle that can, let's pretend, hit dead center 3 out of 5 times with handloads. And let's say you had a bench to shoot from or even just a really good prone position.
4.5 seconds of flight is a long time. Long enough for the animal to completely move out of the PoA. Or, more likely, move just enough to get injured.
And I know some distances in the west are necessary. In my own state of Texas, there is a TPWD hunt in the Caprock Canyon, near Turkey and Itaque, Texas (south and east of Amarillo.) You purchase an electronic lottery ticket, as it were, to win this hunt for mule deer. Most of the year, the canyon is just for rough hiking and camping. They close it down in December to assign compartments for hunting. They give you an AO. The description warns of rugged camping and freezing temperatures (high desert.) And being able to take shots to at least 200 yards. There is only rocks and scrub brush. So, yeah, some distance shooting is required.
I can even see shooting 700 yards if you are on one hill and the elk is on another hill.
I am not against long range hunting and I have not said that you cannot shoot an animal past 300 yards. Again, it depends on the bullet performance at impact and that is largely a result of impact velocity.
Granted, if I hit a deer at 1780 fps, it is not going to jauntily thumb its nose at me and prance away with a "nanner, nanner, boo, boo. Stick your face in doo doo. Oh, I see you did already."
Maybe it is potty training. I was taught to handle the game animal with mercy and quickness. No need to cause more suffering.
I was watching Texas Predator Hunting podcast and Wade Chandler said he did a 5 cold bore group. That is, he would get that gun out once a day and take just one shot. He did that 5 days in the row. He says he got a dispersion pattern indistinguishable from just taking 5 shots at one sitting.
But I still surmise that even with a rifle that can, let's pretend, hit dead center 3 out of 5 times with handloads. And let's say you had a bench to shoot from or even just a really good prone position.
4.5 seconds of flight is a long time. Long enough for the animal to completely move out of the PoA. Or, more likely, move just enough to get injured.
And I know some distances in the west are necessary. In my own state of Texas, there is a TPWD hunt in the Caprock Canyon, near Turkey and Itaque, Texas (south and east of Amarillo.) You purchase an electronic lottery ticket, as it were, to win this hunt for mule deer. Most of the year, the canyon is just for rough hiking and camping. They close it down in December to assign compartments for hunting. They give you an AO. The description warns of rugged camping and freezing temperatures (high desert.) And being able to take shots to at least 200 yards. There is only rocks and scrub brush. So, yeah, some distance shooting is required.
I can even see shooting 700 yards if you are on one hill and the elk is on another hill.
I am not against long range hunting and I have not said that you cannot shoot an animal past 300 yards. Again, it depends on the bullet performance at impact and that is largely a result of impact velocity.
Granted, if I hit a deer at 1780 fps, it is not going to jauntily thumb its nose at me and prance away with a "nanner, nanner, boo, boo. Stick your face in doo doo. Oh, I see you did already."
Maybe it is potty training. I was taught to handle the game animal with mercy and quickness. No need to cause more suffering.
A real 2000 yard cold bore killer. I wouldn't want this team shooting at me.
That guy is fun to watch and has played with some awesome toys over the years. A fantastic shooter and team.
I don't think he's made too many cold bore shots though at 2K plus.
No, but he proves that it is possible.That guy is fun to watch and has played with some awesome toys over the years. A fantastic shooter and team.
I don't think he's made too many cold bore shots though at 2K plus.
Possibly Overton could have made that shot but being the abrasive personality that he is, it easy to cast aspersions and doubt upon his claims.
I think he just does it for clicks and you can believe it was a real hit or not. Proof is in the pudding. He ought to go to the Texas Plinking Challenge or Cortina's Ethical one shot challenge.
He may bitch about it being a long way to travel but they have had people from other states travel to there for the show. And now, with the 10 rd at 1K challenge, you can win money.
As good as Overton claims to be, he should be able to get first round hit on the 10 inch, first round hit on the 5 inch and get the grand slam 38 points.
You would think that being able to shoot an elk at 2200 yards and center punch a red bull can at 2403 yards, a measely 1000 yards at a target that is larger than a red bull can should be a sleep walk.
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On a 1-on-1, Overton would KO that team by bouncing a shot off the moon back down into Australia.
I enjoy watching them and they have some personal vids on how they met and got doing what they do.
They’re also fighting for Aussie gun rights, which apparently of late have taken an even worse turn. Poor buggers.
I watched a video of a tour of their shop. It looked like they build some pretty serious cars too
we all know the answer is yes....
To demonstrate, just need a 1919 watercooled and a few belts
I mean they didn't even close to use similar equipment.
Like they said shoulda tried with the 300 Norma, be a much closer comparison.
Regardless a really tough shot.
Should've done it with a .375 Enablr (largest cartridge allowed in Canada). But I guess if they did that they wouldn't be able to show off the MDT goods...
Clearly, they didn't have their special 'pocket bullet'.
Those guys in the video with the 6BR are not doing us any favors
It’s only a matter of time before some guys is on here asking about his selection of 6BR as a 1 mile gun and claiming he saw those dudes do it and then we all have to spend 14 pages of a thread talking him off of the ledge, with him kicking and screaming the whole while, and the occasional weirdo dropping in saying that 6BR is fine for 1300 yards
It’s only a matter of time before some guys is on here asking about his selection of 6BR as a 1 mile gun and claiming he saw those dudes do it and then we all have to spend 14 pages of a thread talking him off of the ledge, with him kicking and screaming the whole while, and the occasional weirdo dropping in saying that 6BR is fine for 1300 yards
Clearly you haven't seen my two-mile, .223 build...
...it's just a normal .223, but my idiot B-I-L tried chambering a round before a hunt with his finger on the trigger, and sent a round probably about two miles based upon the angle the muzzle was at.
Oh man, it’s been a while since I saw the first post of this thread. I’ll have to rewatch it.
I did. It’s a normal .223 but the barrel is 1.8 miles long. 0.5 MOA all day long, as long as you do your part.
I, for one, am intrigued.
I mean sure but I don't think they have an EnABELR and I know they have a Norma.
245 Bergers have a significantly closer BC to what a 408 Cheytac would. and much closer velocity from the 300 Norma.
This wasn't much of recreating the shot as it was seeing if we can do it with the shit we have at the range right now. Having a more suitable cartridge would greatly increase the odds but it's still gonna be a game of chance.
Hey, I'm building a Dasher, you don't think it'll be a good 1 mile cartridge ?????
2 mile cartridge…Hey, I'm building a Dasher, you don't think it'll be a good 1 mile cartridge ?????
You know, it just occurred to me that I didn’t really draw the line between this thread and why I posted that meme. Some got the joke, but I sense others did not and might think I just hate the Japanese.
Since some people are trying to hit a tiny Red Bull/Dinty Moore/Tim Hortman’s can thousands of feet away, just using a .45 ACP (ideally in a 1911) would simplify their situation.
As you could just pop a round off and blow the entire mountain away.
Sorry for explaining the joke. That rarely goes well lol
Depends on the job. If you are trying to blow a lung out of a body, you just need the 9 mm.
You know, 9mm/lung was the original premise behind my first post, but upon reflection, I changed caliber.
The .45ACP variation was just more funny, bigger.
Like the round itself haha
