I can give you the 230gr A-Tip measurement later tonight when I return home from work....13hr days man......getting to me. I can also give you the 250 A-tips if you like. I don't have any Bergers in house...I have some 245 EOL's on the way though.Anyone have an COAL number for case loaded with 230 ATIP, 230 Berger and/or 215 berger where the bullet is seated above the neck shoulder junction?
awesome... Thank you. Just trying to see what magazines I need to correctly fit.I can give you the 230gr A-Tip measurement later tonight when I return home from work....13hr days man......getting to me. I can also give you the 250 A-tips if you like. I don't have any Bergers in house...I have some 245 EOL's on the way though.
I use Accurate Mag's 300 RUM 3.85 magawesome... Thank you. Just trying to see what magazines I need to correctly fit.
For reference and to add to, out of a brand new 22.5” barrel I fired one 212 ELDX at 2835fps and fired one 220eldm at 2747.Well I finally made it to the range and have some 20” data to share.
This was a brand new barrel shooting factory hornady 225 eld-m. This was my first time using lab radar so while I shot the entire 20rd box I only have valid velocity readings for 17 rds. All shots were fired with Nomad-30 attached.
The average velocity = 2721 FPS.
High = 2756 FPS
Low = 2685 FPS
ES = 71 FPS
This equates to roughly a 22 FPS loss per inch from hornady stated test barrel velocity.
Been wanting to see results as well for this one. I plan on trying this bullet once my rifle is complete.
I see they are pointed from the factory thats why the bc is so high. OTM and PV have some in stock so I may pick up a box to try out.they beat out the 215 and 200.20x when used in a 308 from my sources
How many bullets do you have down the barrel? Also, I think the RPR is 26" on the barrel, correct?1. I was hoping to be a little bit faster with the 225 ELD M. I'm guessing to get faster I'd need to try a different powders?
Awesome. Hoping I can find something similar with H1k and the 230 Bergers.Last day at the range before loading up for the NF ELR Match. The 2850 range is a solid node for the RL-26 and 230 ATips, it's a little slower then I was dreaming about but it's shoots lights out, consistent out to 2000+ yards.
Also got a mod-ed http://adjustablebagrider.com/ for the MDT ACC which is pretty cool. With the PU 3D ELR Bag it's nice for getting that super fine adjustment just before you send it.
Looks like the low and high speed nodes are potentially pretty wide.Went out tonight to run my handloads across the chrony and get an idea where I need to be for a powder charge. After doing that, I've got a couple questions....
Ruger Precision Rifle 300PRC
225 ELD M
H1000 powder- I bought 8 lbs before I got the rifle so I'm pretty well committed to it.
Bullets loaded .003 off the rifling
Federal 215M primer
Magneto speed V3 chrony
Hornady 225 ELDM factory ammo- 2850 fps average
78.2- 2896- bolt lift a little sticky
1. I was hoping to be a little bit faster with the 225 ELD M. I'm guessing to get faster I'd need to try a different powders?
2. I was thinking usually a barrel would have a low node and a high node..... I'm only seeing one node around 76 grs. Am I missing a second higher node somewhere in my data?
3. Given how close the node appears to be around 76.1 that's what I'm going to target. Any reason I might run into trouble only running at 2780 fps assuming this load actually groups well?
My goal is to use this load for shooting between 1000-2000 yds.
Ya, not great results from factory 225’s in mine either but handload 225’s were excellent. Odd really since bullet seating was same just different powder and better concentricity average, not enough to make as much difference as it did. Very curiousHow many bullets do you have down the barrel? Also, I think the RPR is 26" on the barrel, correct?
Last weekend I helped a friend do load development on his carbon-barreled hunting rifle (26" Bartlein barrel - the whole rifle weighs like 6 lbs!). Factory 225s were getting him in the low-mid 2900s (~2930, if I remember correctly). So, 2850 on the factory 225s seems a bit on the low side. And we found a good node at ~2880-2900 with the ladder.
Interestingly, the factory ammo out of his rifle shot horribly - and I mean HORRIBLY. He was lucky to get 1.5 MOA on a 5-shot group - and it's not him, or me, because he's also had other competition shooters get the same results. He wasn't planning on getting into reloading now, but I convinced him to let me load up a ladder using RL26 and Berger 230s. The ladder was very consistent (and actually better groups throughout the whole ladder than Hornady factory!).
As mentioned, we found a node at the 2880 range, then tried to load some rounds at the range to validate. Unfortunately, the wind was really blowing and it was tough to get the portable scale just right, so the validation rounds were a bit hot at just above 2900, but they still grouped okay (and had a 5 SD...). I'm loading up some more for him at the proper charge weight for the next trip.
And oh yeah, he's ordering reloading stuff
I don't neck size, so this is not coming from a point of experience, but wouldn't the cases be okay for a few firings at least? It seems odd that they'd get sticky after one firing.i'd vote this. down at the web/bottom of the case
die issue most likely
If your pressures are up they will get tight after 1 firing.I don't neck size, so this is not coming from a point of experience, but wouldn't the cases be okay for a few firings at least? It seems odd that they'd get sticky after one firing.
Just to double check, these cases weren't once-fired from someone else's rifle, right?
yup this.If your pressures are up they will get tight after 1 firing.
b2lee whats your n565 230 ATIP load. All my components will be in this week and this is what I'm going to work up!
What die are you using for sizing?Well...as we transition from winter to summer...my loads have been dialed back a bit. I was running on the ragged edge for cold weather...and have been going down a full grain here and there. I'm currently at 75.0 grains of N565 in ADG 2x fired brass. I give myself 3 thou to fit in the magazine....heh
Depends on your gun..but you may find a nice node around 74 grains if you care about paper groups at 100yds.
Yea...work up...every gun is different...what works in mine may be dangerous in yours....so 70.0 and work up and find that velocity flatspot....