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5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

I stand corrected and fall back to my statement that I am violating Graham's Rule #1
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My bias is based on the experience of sitting across the desk from our DA, discussing my future. And, lengthy conversations with my attorney.

I had a feeling this discussion would go this direction, so, again, I'm out
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Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

5.56X45 50-Gr. Lead-Free Frangible Ammunition
They use this stuff to guard. Nuclear facilities. Got 750 rounds from ammoman a while back.

Made by Federal:

223 FRANGIBLE U.S.G.I. 50 GRAIN BULLET
LEAD FREE AND NON-TOXIC
REDUCED RICOCHET - LOW PENETRATION

UNITED STATES GOVT. ISSUE

GREAT FOR INDOOR RANGES
BRAND NEW (SEE PICS)

FANTASTIC VARMINT, CLOSE QUARTERS
OR HOME DEFENSE ROUND


Just my $.02

Spud47
 
Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

This may provide some more insight about overpenetration. Lots of interesting links to explore. As for MY preferences for HD ammo, I'll settle for the Hornday 75gr TAP FPD, or the 5.56 TAP T2 if I can get it.
 
Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spud47</div><div class="ubbcode-body">5.56X45 50-Gr. Lead-Free Frangible Ammunition
They use this stuff to guard. Nuclear facilities. Got 750 rounds from ammoman a while back.

Made by Federal:

223 FRANGIBLE U.S.G.I. 50 GRAIN BULLET
LEAD FREE AND NON-TOXIC
REDUCED RICOCHET - LOW PENETRATION

UNITED STATES GOVT. ISSUE

GREAT FOR INDOOR RANGES
BRAND NEW (SEE PICS)

FANTASTIC VARMINT, CLOSE QUARTERS
OR HOME DEFENSE ROUND


Just my $.02

Spud47

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So you woudn;t mind sharing some?
 
Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

I have some winchester 55 grain fragniable ammo and it penetrates3/8 plywood at 25 yds , 50yds, and 100 yds. personally I wouldnt trust an air rifle to not penetrate a wall in a new construction home where as an older home with plaster and mortar would be a different story , even new buildings that look like they are masonary are nothing more than styrofoam with a masonary coating known as drive it .
I have to question the logic of searching a house instead of barricading the room your in and waiting on the law enforcement to show up . unless there are children in the house then all bets are off and going to them would be a priority , I understand that as a parent . you have to use the right tool for the job and that changes with time . 10 years ago we suffered a home invasion and the weapons used were a aluminum ball bat and a choke hold ( I run right by my pistol to confront the intruder my wife was beating with a bat) and ended up on the front yard in my fruit of the looms choking the creep out.
now days the kids are gone and I will assume a static position in my bed room with the old mossberg 12 guage loaded with number 4 copper coated bb,s of the 3 inch persuasion. yes I am banking on a tight pattern at 10 ft to do the job . the reason for the pump gun is simple . I have used one for 40 years and I feel more comfortable with the manual of arms than any other.
 
Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

for .223/5.56 i will cast my vote only because it has not been mentioned yet..

i like the .55gr Winchester ballistic silver tip. i keep a 30 round mag loaded.

let me say this i have 3 kids that sleep in separate rooms and i have 2 sets of stairs that lead up stairs one go's directly into my daughters room. great if there is a fire and we need to get out tactically bad if there is an intruder.there are so many scenarios. my main thought is draw the intruder's attention away from the rest of the family by yelling down the stairs, i have called 911 and i have a 12ga up here if you want some. the sound of a pump action shot gun is unmistakable. my wife would cover the back set of stairs and i would cover the main set. i do have a set of flash bangs and in the middle of the night one of those would throw any one off.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: epdesign</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i do have a set of flash bangs . . . </div></div>

Uh . . . What? Did I read that right? You have a set of flash bangs? Where would you get such things?
 
Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Utnapishtim</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: epdesign</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i do have a set of flash bangs . . . </div></div>

Uh . . . What? Did I read that right? You have a set of flash bangs? Where would you get such things? </div></div>

I'm going to assume that you have airsoft C02 flash/bang simulators, because the real ones are class III destructive devices.
 
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flash bang's are aluminum powder mixed with potassium perchlorate the same thing used in old fashioned cameras for the flash. it is legal to have up to 1lb of that mixture in your possession at least in my state it is. so to clarify i do not own (flash bangs) as in the ones that law enforcement use but what i do have puts out a hell of a flash and one hell of a concussion with no shrapnel.
 
Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: epdesign</div><div class="ubbcode-body">flash bang's are aluminum powder mixed with potassium perchlorate the same thing used in old fashioned cameras for the flash. it is legal to have up to 1lb of that mixture in your possession at least in my state it is. so to clarify i do not own (flash bangs) as in the ones that law enforcement use but what i do have puts out a hell of a flash and one hell of a concussion with no shrapnel. </div></div>

That's kinda friggin' brilliant.
 
Re: 5.56 HomeDefense Ammo Suggestions

I think I would tend to lump varmint bullets in the same category as birdshot as far as self/home defense goes.

Anything that has enough penetration to stop a bad guy has enough penetration to kill an innocent. There are no magic bullets.
 
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you can buy it on ebay it is extremely easy to find mix aluminum powder and iron oxide and you have thermite i don't have or need any of that. I'm not fond of explosives AT ALL! i like my freedom my fingers and toes. I don't rely like having more than a few pounds of reloading powder in my house. if i have a less leather option for my home i do consider it. gun play in my home near my wife and kids is the last thing i ever want.
 
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pretty low but there always a risk the stuff burns off very fast and because i have no carpet its all hard wood and tile it would have to be directly tied up in a curtain