Re: 6.5 Grendel AR15...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ThinIce</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Toywiz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can't comment on the .308. There have been many great cartridges over the years starting with the daddy of them all, the 7x57 Mauser 98. I sporterized one when I was young, out of the military and short on money. I shot many deer with that old Mauser and amazed many of my friends who shot larger 30-06 and such. Those older calibers relied on a lot of brute force but they did the job. When I was looking for something to shoot the local varmint match I was turned off by the 15-20 pound bench guns that I saw. Also many of the older shooters (I'm 68) were shooting 6.5-284 etc. They had huge 2" bull barrels and to be honest I couldn't see the purpose in it. I mean, with that haeavy a rifle what's the point? I happended upon an article on the 6.5 Grendel and some stuff about Arne Brennan and Bill Alexander. What I read peaked my interest. Add an upper to my Rock River AR? I stopped by Black Armory in Tucson and talked to them. I also discussed what I wanted to do with the Grendel. They gave me a parts list($$$$)Vltor etc (like El Wray), all forged and billet machined. I'm an engineer so I know to get an accurate rifle you have to have precision machining, there's just no way around it. If you slop some parts together you can't expect the cartridge to make up the difference. My friend, Bruce, is a retired armorer and firearms instructor and afficianado of AR's so he asked if he could show me the "right way" to put the Grendel together. Since I wanted to use the Grendel for hunting I opted for the 18 inch Alexander fluted barrel. I added a Leupold Mk-4 6.5-20x50mm LR/T M1 with the TMR reticle. I also did some research and experimenting with powder and am impressed with the new Accurate 8208-XBR which has good temperature stability and even burning. It's a tack driver out to 500 yds with a 107 Sierra and I'm loading some Lapua 123 scenars and have a couple of boxes of Hornady 123 A-Max bullets on order. I love this rifle. It's got a soft recoil and does way better than I expected. I agree with the post that said if you think of it as somewhere in the middle etc.
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yeah Arne lives just down the street from me and I bought mine from him around 5 years ago in an AR style 20".......the guns he was able to shoot out to 1000 were 28" bolt guns and they were some nice sticks. If you ask on the grendel forum or follow things over there you find that few people reach out past 600 yards.....of course most don't work at it. Even on the grendel forum most people will tell you accuracy past 600
is tough for a grendel...load development, barrel length...so many things but I love the round and my gun. It has been the one gun I never consider selling or trading. There is just something unique about it and it is fun to shoot all day without getting beat up.....and a good one is one accurate little shit. My 20" with a Lothar Walther barrel is heavy as hell and I have decided to cut it down and flute it. But people drop deer every year at 400 yds and a bit more. That little ppc cartridge is efficient as hell for the amount of powder used.....that is the beauty of that little gun in my experience. </div></div>
BS.
The very first time I shot my Grendel, as well as the first time I'd attempted to shoot anything beyond 300 yards, I was slamming steel at 700 yards within a handful of shots.
The Grendel is a legit 1000 yard gun and is capable of doing everything. .308 can do, especially out past 400 or so yards.
