8.6 Blackout

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Been playing with a Faxon bolt in 8.6 blackout in MDT stock with timney trigger. Tried the 300 Maker bullets and after 60 bullets, 4 powders, and 4 primers came to conclusion that this barrel does not like the maker 300. Best group was about 4 inches at 100, with some over 12 inches.

Tried some factory 285 Gorilla and gun obviously loves them. Test to see with barrel was any good. Factory was around 988 fps and 1.5 inches. Worked out that with Gorilla 285, BR2 primers and LiL Gun from 13.4-13.6 and results were 1.5-2 inch groups and MV 1060 to 1045. Used Nomax 33 and super quiet.

Interesting side note that Faxon is sensitive to primer seating depth and likes them seated really deep with no space.
 
I recently started reloading (less than 6 months) and started specifically because of the scarcity of 8.6 blackout ammunition. My interests are in short range work: to have the lowest possible shot signature, and the highest mobility and lethality I can get, the 12" Q Fix in 8.6BLK fit my use case.

I was aware of the 1:3 twist propaganda before I purchased my Fix this year; occasionally I do think I should have either waited until more barrels became available, or purchased something in 300 Blackout, but in that case I likely wouldn't have been interested in reloading and in retrospect, I would consider that a loss because reloading has turned out to be a very rewarding non-shooting shooting activity if you catch my meaning.

Anyway, I have my load development data on my website (which you can find in the About section of my profile). I actively update it from the range, shooting new loads every week or so. I would appreciate any feedback or advice about how to properly collect and analyze the data, I'm sorta just going by the ancient reloading threads I find on this forum, youtubes, and other tertiary sources.

Heres a summary of my learnings about subsonic 86 blackout at 1:3 twist rates:

Bullets:

- 300gr Sierra MatchKing HPBT (lead core) - Stopped for now, because I had one non-catastrophic baffle strike, I may return to copper jacketed bullets if I can reliably keep them subsonic. Non-catastrophic just means i took my suppressor to a gunsmith and we checked it out together, and he told me i was lucky that the jacket just barely struck the endcap and make a cosmetic dent in the exit hole. The baffles are undamaged, but will strill probably RMA it when I can, though, it shoots fine.
- 342gr Gorilla Punisher (solid copper) - Currently using, not afraid to push this to the supersonic barrier, but the bullets are expensive and scarce, i'm trying to keep these between 950fps and 1000fps.

Powder:

Vihtavuori N320 + 300gr SMK:
- 11.0-12.0gr range → 1055-1101 fps
- flew a little too close to the sun with this powder, will return to it later

CFE BLK + 300gr SMK:
- 16.5gr → 969 fps
- 17.0gr → 1035 fps
- seems to be the most promising powder for subsonic work in my environment. This powder also smells the best in the container.

Hodgdon LILGUN + 342gr Gorilla:
- 12.0-13.4gr range → 820-937 fps
- good subsonic performance, no complaints, but not sure if it's better than CFE BLK yet. and I see this powder in-stock everywhere.

I'll be testing CFE BLK loads with the 342gr bullets this week and i'll be testing the following bullets over the coming weeks:

- 285GR Barnes TSX, if these work well then they'll be thge best price at 1.16/bullet
- 250GR Fort Scott Munitions SBP1 (I hope these are safe in 1:3?? not 100% sure, but what else would fort scott munitions use in their factory ammos?)
- 250GR North Fork Solid Flat Nose, just look weird

any idea why the maker website says not to use CFE BLK for their 350gr bullets?
 
Just fyi as opposed to starting a new thread.
 
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