I "recently" found 2 5Rs, on the Sale section, for $950/each.My first 5R was my starter. I had to get more, as it's a great gun, for the price. I put a Nikon 8-32, on my first, and it shoots lights out. My first, was New, at 1170. The Nikon, rings and base, took that to 2K. It's one of my favorite shooters. A Nikon "Buckmaster" 4-16, sits on another one. They're a lot cheaper. Around 400, and works just fine. The 2 "new" used 5Rs got a Nikon5.5-20, that I got here, for 500, and the other wears a Night Force 12-42, that I found here. I kinda think they'll both do "just fine", for me. Actually, I'm just gettin em ready[read: play with them, for a while], for a couple buddies. They "might get em", if I can "let them go". Or I'll keep one, and look for another.