Most people bring up what you tested. The liftI am probably the one who misunderstood. When someone says throw I never know if it's lift or travel or both.
Most people bring up what you tested. The liftI am probably the one who misunderstood. When someone says throw I never know if it's lift or travel or both.
Finally had a chance to shoot after a hiatus.
I take back what I said. At x is pretty slick with hornady one shot on bolt. At least as smooth as my higher round count axsa I had
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Mines a Gen 3 22 vs my 15 AT and 03 AWMFor everyone saying they’re smooth or not what year rifles we talking?
Mines a 22 and seems normal
I know you weren't asking me but since I was using the term as well by smooth I mean consistent pressure required throughout lift and this is how I am measuring it:
Here is my AE, I can keep the scale between 5.3 and 5.7 pounds while lifting the handle.
Here is my AT-X. The force required goes over 8 pounds at one point and is noticeably less consistent which translates to less smoothness.
I'm sure this isn't precise and a lot of the variation is my fault but I find the older model a bit better. Not the end of the world but some people are saying their AT-Xs feel the exact same as their other AIs and I guess that isn't the case for everyone.
FWIW my Tikka CTR in 6.5cm with 60 or 70° lift is almost identical to the AE at right around 5.5 pounds throughout.
You made me doubt myself lolIs the ball head at the balance point of that setup? If so what is the barrel contour, caliber and length?
Where did you pick the NF mount without the logo on the side? Looks like the MIL version.Just got the folder, new muzzle brake, and red dot on the diving board. Really enjoying this rifle!View attachment 8248788
Yah it’s the mil versionWhere did you pick the NF mount without the logo on the side? Looks like the MIL version.
You made me doubt myself lol
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18.5” 6,5cm
Think it’s a factory barrel I had cut down. But slightly lighter contour than most I have.
Gen 1 338 ultra cb can
Zco420 spuhr
Custom kac/yhm bag rider
Nice setup. What does it weigh like that?You made me doubt myself lol
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18.5” 6,5cm
Think it’s a factory barrel I had cut down. But slightly lighter contour than most I have.
Gen 1 338 ultra cb can
Zco420 spuhr
Custom kac/yhm bag rider
PM sent.I might have missed it, but do you have close ups of the paint issue?
Hey now! I do lube my shit. I use Lucas gun oil on the bolt body, and tw25b grease on the cocking ramp.I put Hoppes No 9 Gun Grease on all six (6) lugs, bolt body, base of the handle where it makes contact with the action, and bottom of the firing pin shroud. Did this on my AT, AX, and ATX. All slick as shit. It lasts, depending on conditions, maybe 500-1000 rounds, before I clean and reapply. Zero issues with it gunking up any of the triggers.
I have a buddy, cough cough, @jwood1284, who doesn’t do this and it is noticeable between our two actions.
I have one that I think is 24 in. I can measure the length when I get home. In my AT-X, with a s&b 5-25, Atlas bipod, and titanium suppressor, I think it was 19 lb.Does anyone have an AT-X with a Proof CF 24” 6.5 or 20” 308 barrel? If so what’s the weight and how does it balance
Looks like winners of the NASTI comp at Hat Creek were using ATX and possibly AXSR
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That AT-X had to have had a custom firing pin spring to make the bolt lift lighter, with possible lapped lugs to make that action buttery smooth when cycled…
All mil competition? So competition was pretty light...Looks like winners of the NASTI comp at Hat Creek were using ATX and possibly AXSR
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That AT-X had to have had a custom firing pin spring to make the bolt lift lighter, with possible lapped lugs to make that action buttery smooth when cycled…
So black versions are more accurate and have a lighter bolt lift? Maybe I should get a black one instead of a dark earth one.
Gen 3 AT-X without any bridge or folder mechanism, with a proof 24" 6.5cm barrel with no muzzle device and with an empty mag inserted: 11lb 4.2ozDoes anyone have an AT-X with a Proof CF 24” 6.5 or 20” 308 barrel? If so what’s the weight and how does it balance
Gen 3 AT-X without any bridge or folder mechanism, with a proof 24" 6.5cm barrel with no muzzle device and with an empty mag inserted: 11lb 4.2oz
Balance point is front edge of mag well.
Would you guys still choose an ATX over the MPA PMR with the coup de grace action for competing? Not concerned about money, just wondering which rifle is going to reign supreme.
People win matches with both and neither is going to make anyone a better shooter or decide the outcome if the same person decided to shoot one or the other that day.
The advantage to the AI’s is the QC barrel and the double stack mags that run flawlessly. Other than that you can drop a custom in an ATX AICS and have a rifle that for all intents and purposes is functionally indifferent as far as a match rifle goes.
If you like AI’s or what one, buy one and run it and vise versa. There’s no right or wrong answer.
Would you guys still choose an ATX over the MPA PMR with the coup de grace action for competing? Not concerned about money, just wondering which rifle is going to reign supreme.
Definitely going to fall on shooter abilities there.
I went AI because I always wanted one. That was my sole reason for purchase.
would love to see a thin slip on neoprene rail cover that could be easily pulled like they make for picatinny rails
I just picked up a new AT-X from my dealer last night. I’ll double check but it looks like a 4 groove. Feel free to hmu. I’ll be swapping it out this weekend for a proof carbon.Has anyone gotten any gen 3’s with 4 groove hawk hills? I’m just wondering if they even exist. I would much prefer a HH over a Bartlein.
I just picked up a new AT-X from my dealer last. I’ll double check but it looks like a 4 groove. Feel free to hmu. I’ll be swapping it out this weekend for a proof carbon.
Curious as to why the preference for HH over the Barlein.
What are you using for a bullet caddy on the side?Just got the folder, new muzzle brake, and red dot on the diving board. Really enjoying this rifle!View attachment 8248788
The Hoptic 308 quiver. Used the Keymod version and flipped the hardware around to clear the magwell.What are you using for a bullet caddy on the side?
Depends what you want to do. If sticking with NF you can’t go wrong with the 7-35. Would be about a $1000 upgrade if you sold or traded your 4-16. For a paper puncher you can never go wrong with more magnification. Rarely do you need 4-8 power. But upper end of 25-40, although not necessarily used on full power, is nice to have when you want itI did it; placed my order with Eurooptic when i saw 1000.00 off and taxes paid. Looking to order hinge and long forearm this weekend. 6cm. Havent been this excited on a rifle for years.
What is everyone using on magnification? I know it is a loaded question; i have a 4-16 milxt sitting here i am probably gonna start with it and see if i need more magnification at the property where i can shoot up to 1000
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Funny you mentioned gas guns, i use the 4-16 on gas guns, and my 223 proof rifle.Depends what you want to do. If sticking with NF you can’t go wrong with the 7-35. Would be about a $1000 upgrade if you sold or traded your 4-16. For a paper puncher you can never go wrong with more magnification. Rarely do you need 4-8 power. But upper end of 25-40, although not necessarily used on full power, is nice to have when you want it
I don’t think you’ll be happy with the 4-16 for 1k. I’ve had several and they’re great gas gun or out to 500 yard hunting style optics. But the magnification left me wanting more for longer ranges
What you want to spend is the question. Athlon Cronus, Burris XTRIII, NF 7-35, ZCO 527 or 840 etcI wholeheartedly agree with you. Funny you mentioned gas guns, i use the 4-16 on gas guns, and my 223 proof rifle.
I will shop for a higher magnification i guess
I have been using the mil-xt reticle for a few years now so i feel comfortable. I do not mind zco with a t3 but likely will be sticking to an nfWhat you want to spend is the question. Athlon Cronus, Burris XTRIII, NF 7-35, ZCO 527 or 840 etc
That 4-16 is a great optic and one of my favorite designs and reticles. It has a place but for a 1,000 yard precision rifle in my opinion isn’t it
I hit 600-700 with 16x staying around 12x with my gas gun very comfortably; and usually i am never on the higher end of the magnification, maybe 5-25? I don’t knowMagnification doesn’t help when mirage kicks up.
I get along fine with a 420. Hit the 10x6 ipsc at 940 at a comp. also a wolf target at 12 or 1400.
Prolly wasn’t even at full power.
But yeah if I didn’t use it with clip ons / for hunting I’d be using a 527 for sure
I own both the 7-35 atacr and ZCO 527. I think you’d be happy with either. That Mil XT is my favorite reticleI have been using the mil-xt reticle for a few years now so i feel comfortable. I do not mind zco with a t3 but likely will be sticking to an nf
I've seen some great deals on ZCo optics in the PX lately. Running a 5-27 on my AT-X, and it seems just about perfect.I wholeheartedly agree with you. Funny you mentioned gas guns, i use the 4-16 on gas guns, and my 223 proof rifle.
I will shop for a higher magnification i guess
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@Steelcityprecision 1 Day Team Match. Format was hike to blind holding area, self stage brief in blind holding area, move to stage, find, range and engage with 6 min par time. Rinse and Repeat. Covered about 4 miles in 5hrs over six stages.
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