Aero Precision Bolt Gun Teaser (Now newly announced SABR thread)

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As a victim of the current tikka/beretta "customer service" repair relationship, I won't ever buy another tikka product again. Those of us who dump $2000 or more into bolt gun builds, when something breaks and takes 6+ months just to get it looked at, thats enough of a reason to not buy it. Who wants to roll the dice on having a repair take your build out for an entire season?

I agree with you on proven performance for the money, but time is really the only difference in that equation. I wont be buying an aero bolt gun when they first come out, but a year in or so, probably will pick one up.
hard to argue that!
 

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    Nobody wants a barrel nut. And yes at this price point I would expect shouldered prefits. The other features don't make an action for me.
    You and I agree on barrel nuts, but the market disagrees. Many people like them as theyre still by far the cheapest prefits. Since its available as a bare action, ditch the barrel nut if you want. If i end up with one, thats what I’ll do.
     

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    I see this as competition for the Savage Elite Precsision with a simialr chassis and way better action.
     
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    You and I agree on barrel nuts, but the market disagrees. Many people like them as theyre still by far the cheapest prefits. Since its available as a bare action, ditch the barrel nut if you want. If i end up with one, thats what I’ll do.
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    I’ve had far more barrel nut barrels than shouldered.
     

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    Nobody wants a barrel nut. And yes at this price point I would expect shouldered prefits. The other features don't make an action for me.
    Im going to go with, if they've chosen the design, then its obvious that more people want a barrel nut than what you've lead yourself to believe.

    This is like the guys in the car groups I'm in, that scream that everyone still wants a manual. Some of us do, but the reality of the market disagrees.

    You spend enough time in an echo chamber and you start to believe that everyone thinks/wants the same thing you do.
     

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    If actions are repeatable enough for smiths to offer shouldered, I expect they will do well, not necessarily for the shouldered aspect, but for the exactness of the actions. I might be interested in a medium or long action if they offer one down the line, preferably without an integral rail.
     

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    Weird ejector placement for a right handed bolt.
    Screw right-handers.


    Gimme some wrong handed shit. If this thing pops up in lefty form. Im in. Integral 20MOA rail? There's 0 reason why every action company isn't doing that already in a "tactical" model just for cool-guy factor. With modern CNC machines... yeah, its a larger piece of metal and not some tube used in Elmer Fudd's actions for 100 years, fine, I understand.

    Gimme some cool shit.
     

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    Im going to go with, if they've chosen the design, then its obvious that more people want a barrel nut than what you've lead yourself to believe.

    This is like the guys in the car groups I'm in, that scream that everyone still wants a manual. Some of us do, but the reality of the market disagrees.

    You spend enough time in an echo chamber and you start to believe that everyone thinks/wants the same thing you do.
    The bergara BMP started with a barrel nut. They changed pretty quickly. I'm pretty sure the echo chamber I'm in happens to be their target audience.
     

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    Screw right-handers.


    Gimme some wrong handed shit. If this thing pops up in lefty form. Im in. Integral 20MOA rail? There's 0 reason why every action company isn't doing that already in a "tactical" model just for cool-guy factor. With modern CNC machines... yeah, its a larger piece of metal and not some tube used in Elmer Fudd's actions for 100 years, fine, I understand.

    Gimme some cool shit.
    I knew there was something weird about you. Now it’s all clear, ya mutant!
     

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    With regards to MSRP, if you look around Aero stuff is always available a good deal below MSRP. If the street price on the actions reflects the same pricing model, they could be very competitive for an integral lug/3 lug bolt.

    I don't see myself replacing my origins, but anything that makes the savage small shank more of the standard thread pitch makes me a happy camper. Expect Ballistic Advantage to role out some offerings for Savage small shanks as well. More Savage shank receivers means more companies offering barrels for it.
     

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    As a victim of the current tikka/beretta "customer service" repair relationship, I won't ever buy another tikka product again.

    Beretta USA doesn't have the most stellar reputation for service, do they?

    There's another thread in the armory about a guy who needs a new extractor for his 92X Performance (Beretta's top of the line competition pistol, and not cheap) and can't get one. From anyone.
     
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    Still a due out: will they be produced consistently enough for shouldered prefits?
     

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    I chose Seekins as an example of someone who, at one point, wasn't associated with bolt action rifles. I personally don't know if their Havak rifles are awesome, average, or complete dog shit.

    People amuse me when they forget that every "established" company at some point was new, and many didn't bring revolutionary products to the table.

    So the statements that Aero Precision isn't an established player, or doesn't bring anything revolutionary, or isn't bargain-basement priced sound pretty dumb when you think about it.
    the problem with that line of thinking is that one, you assume people don't know enough to differentiate and two, the pricing models are comparable. In this case the pricing is not comparable when up against said established names where you have proven performance results and similar options. You're smart enough to see this whereas maybe others are not. It's simply put, you have 2kish to put towards a bolt gun, is this your first pick? If it is, why?
     

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    I didn't hear them mention 223 in the bolt head choices. I'm interested but thought this was strange for them...... maybe it will come later.
     

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    Screw right-handers.


    Gimme some wrong handed shit. If this thing pops up in lefty form. Im in. Integral 20MOA rail? There's 0 reason why every action company isn't doing that already in a "tactical" model just for cool-guy factor. With modern CNC machines... yeah, its a larger piece of metal and not some tube used in Elmer Fudd's actions for 100 years, fine, I understand.

    Gimme some cool shit.
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    Lefty Probably shoots 6.5 CM as well
    The red headed step child of the precision rifle world.
     

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    We thought this might end up here. Someone broke the most important rule of the group this was originally posted in!

    Stay tuned for more details at SHOT Show next week. We are very excited to share this with you all.

    You gotta admit though. You kinda wanted this to leak on purpose didn't you haha?

    Usually when I want something to spread around, I'll share with a small group and let them know it is very important to keep it confidential. 🤣🤣🤣

    Welcome to the forum!
     
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    I think he said standard, medium and magnum at about 2:25. I figured he meant 308, valkyrie and magnum but maybe he meant standard small and magnum....idk. He did say go from a 6mm to a 7 saum, rather than 223 to 7 saum,, but I'm probably reading too much into that.
     

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    ....in the vid the comments regarding "builder roots" gives indication of what Aero possibly views as their largest market, the DIY crowd. Due to Aero's manufacturing capacity AND capability, it's a reasonable thought that they will be able to produce some significant quantities of the subassemblies (receivers, chassis, barrels, etc.) in addition to complete rifles, just as they currently do with AR platforms. I would hazard an opinion that there are probably more Aero receivers out in the wild than any other single brand. The compatibility with Rem700 also links them to the myriad of aftermarket products and services (parts & smith work).

    ..as others have said, it's too early to make an informed opinion on the merits of their new venture. I don't shoot PRS/NRL or anything like that, but I do like to "tinker" and "build" my own...
     

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    You gotta admit though. You kinda wanted this to leak on purpose didn't you haha?

    Usually when I want something to spread around, I'll share with a small group and let them know it is very important to keep it confidential. 🤣🤣🤣

    Welcome to the forum!
    Kinda like Apple's notorious product "leaks" :)
     
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    the problem with that line of thinking is that one, you assume people don't know enough to differentiate and two, the pricing models are comparable. In this case the pricing is not comparable when up against said established names where you have proven performance results and similar options. You're smart enough to see this whereas maybe others are not. It's simply put, you have 2kish to put towards a bolt gun, is this your first pick? If it is, why?

    Quite the contrary, I assume that people are reasonable and rational and take a look at the actual product and street price (not an internet picture and an MSRP) before deciding.

    Your hypothetical doesn't answer the real question, how did upstarts become established?

    A: enough people saw value in their product and bought it

    Neither you nor I have seen this new rifle. I am keeping an open mind and you are already trashing it because it doesn't come from someone with "bolt gun pedigree" and because you think there are better options/values.

    You can decide what is a better option/value any way you like. However, you only get to decide that for you and no one else.
     

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    Beretta USA doesn't have the most stellar reputation for service, do they?

    There's another thread in the armory about a guy who needs a new extractor for his 92X Performance (Beretta's top of the line competition pistol, and not cheap) and can't get one. From anyone.
    I was given a response today by Beretta's " Director of Distribution ", he was sorry that I had "such an unsatisfying experience with your rifle and our service".

    After the original store stepped in and volunteered a replacement rifle from their inventory for Beretta to pay for, their other"Director of Customer Success" stopped responding.

    I guess their current warranty model is "If it breaks, sucks to be you". My rifle is now 1 month shy of them keeping it, compared to the amount of time that Ive owned it.

    So yeah..not buying Tikka again. Moving forward, the warranty and customer service experience is going to be a major purchasing decision for anything else I sink money into.
     

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    I was given a response today by Beretta's " Director of Distribution ", he was sorry that I had "such an unsatisfying experience with your rifle and our service".

    After the original store stepped in and volunteered a replacement rifle from their inventory for Beretta to pay for, their other"Director of Customer Success" stopped responding.

    I guess their current warranty model is "If it breaks, sucks to be you". My rifle is now 1 month shy of them keeping it, compared to the amount of time that Ive owned it.

    So yeah..not buying Tikka again. Moving forward, the warranty and customer service experience is going to be a major purchasing decision for anything else I sink money into.

    PRO Tip: When dealing with Beretta: never, EVER, go directly to Beretta for service (warranty or otherwise). Always go to Beretta-authorized service centers first. If they can't fix it, they deal with Beretta on your behalf. Pro tip I learned when I bough a $2000 Beretta shotgun from one of those authorized service centers who is also a dealer (Cole Gunsmithing).....

     

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    PRO Tip: When dealing with Beretta: never, EVER, go directly to Beretta for service (warranty or otherwise). Always go to Beretta-authorized service centers first. If they can't fix it, they deal with Beretta on your behalf. Pro tip I learned when I bough a $2000 Beretta shotgun from one of those authorized service centers who is also a dealer (Cole Gunsmithing).....

    I appreciate that. We dont have a service center in my state unfortunately. I see that the beretta repair center says:
    Repair Turnaround Time: 4 weeks

    Im about 5 months overdue then, considering small claims court in my state next for breach of warranty. At this point I dont have much to lose since they're not telling me a replacement is coming anytime soon (or telling me much of anything at all)
     

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    barrel nuts is pretty good for a salvage in 1964

    2022 i want threads timed and held within shouldered prefit tolerances.

    and to be fair did i miss the steel the actions made from?

    cromoly actions like an origin is an ez pass
     

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    barrel nuts is pretty good for a salvage in 1964

    2022 i want threads timed and held within shouldered prefit tolerances.

    and to be fair did i miss the steel the actions made from?

    cromoly actions like an origin is an ez pass
    Origins started out chromoly, but are all stainless now. The Aero appears to be nitrided, but I'm sure we’ll learn more with the full roll out.
     

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    I am hoping they offer actions and barreled actions. My concern with the large feature list, is that this will still be a pretty expensive action, even if it is a good value. I was hoping for something which would undercut the Origin, for building that second rifle. I would like to build a nice, but not too expensive hunting rifle.
     

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    Origins started out chromoly, but are all stainless now. The Aero appears to be nitrided, but I'm sure we’ll learn more with the full roll out.

    True, although I don't understand why nitrided alloy steel receiver would be a hard pass compared to nitrided SS receiver, it's not like 416 is anything special when it comes to mechanical properties.
     

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    At those prices just pickup an ARC Nuke and Xylo when they have one of their awesome sales...
    My exact thoughts at the 2k price point. John Hancock was 2k also but that was it’s own fiasco. Tikka comes to mind, havoc comes to mind.

    Aero isn’t junk, but there are most truth worthy and proven options in the same space.
     
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