I mean his list of requirements. 99% of the people who bitch about materials used in firearms know fuck all about them.
ohhhhh I 100% agree with you. The origin is one of the best budget friendly actions on the market. I couldn't care less if it's 4340 CM or 416R SS. Material and i agree, idk what the big deal about barrel nuts is. They are convenient, and guys like northland shooters supply make quality barrels on the cheap and make zermatt prefits affordable as well. I think this is a quality action, with it's ups and downs, and brings much needed competition to this price bracket
That’s what I’ve heard, not sure how I feel about that yet. Haven’t decided what I’m doing yet.
How smooth is your bolt cycling?
Im playing with it now, more later. Bolt lift is very nice. There’s ~.065 of cock on close with a jewell trigger, which may bother some.
I have not been impressed by the bolt lift, and smoothness of the bolt. Mine headspace’s off my origin barrels as well, just hand tight since they don’t have an action wrench available yet and I don’t have an over action wrench. I like the bolt throw so far, but I am so hung up on how not smooth it is I’m having a hard time looking past that.
I put it together and did maybe 200-300 dry fires, different lubes on the bolt and it is starting to smooth up a bit. I still feel it’s a bit clunky when I run it side by side with my origin. It’s not horrible, but side by side I can definitely tell a difference. It’s making me focus on it maybe more than I should lol
All good, wasn't trying to refute what you wrote. Just thought id show it to those who hadn't put hands on one.
That’s awesome! Thanks for the update. So how did you get it torqued on the action? The quick snap method? Or do you have a universal over action wrench?
I have an external wrench. I threaded/chambered this barrel for my Origin, and it was threaded to fit that action, not to the Zermatt print. The Solus screwed on with quite literally zero thread clearance. It probably would have shot fine with zero torque, but I gave it 50 ft/lbs just to be certain.
I believe it is but I couldn’t get mine undone. You not wierd proprietary thing is the action wrench, and it’s not available yet.
It’s interesting some things that are being said for sure!
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And quite honestly, the bolt itself is very smooth. As close as I can tell there are 2-3 reasons it’s not smooth. Biggest reason I think is it does not engage any type of raceway until the last 10% maybe of movement. The bolt literally spins freely until that point unless reason 2) the bolt catch rides in its own slot and it is NOT really smooth. The edges are sharp and you can see minor machine marks in the slot that I think are interfering with the bolt stop. And lastly, the rear of the action where the bolt enters is a sharper angle and I think it causes too much friction as opposed to a radius or even a chamfer. I am no machinist I don’t know for sure, but I know for a fact it’s not because of the flutes lol.
Joel at Terminus made similar comments about flutes on his bolts on a podcast. Long story short, he feels most modern bolt actions can work through grit without flutes due to tolerances, and increasing the depth and width of flutes can decrease the
Its a jewell, they move very little. Trigger is 1.5 lbs.
I am very intrigued on how this works out. Hard to beat the price for what you get on paper, but have no idea about the barrel.
I guess I'll be the guinea pig, lol.
They quoted me that delivery time as well but it actually shipped the next day. I’m super interested to see how it performs for you as a complete setup. My first video has got so much traction I’ve thought about trying to get a barrel and chassis for some additional videos. Who knows.
do it!
Well i blame you, your second video of it side by side with the origin is what convinced me to jump. I don't compete or anything and it looked smooth "enough" for my needs.
The deadline isn’t fully integrated. Lug yes, rail no. I have a deadline 2 on route
They started making them again?
I believe in one of the shot videos they asked that and the answer was more of “we have more in the works, we will see how it does first.” Kind of answer.
Yes ibi took over control there was some work to be done. The boys at ibi did a good job getting caught up, cleaned up, and fixed. I had hands on one of there gen 2 deadlines 6 weeks or so ago and it blew me away. So I’m expecting mine within the next 2 weeks
Still $1599 though, right?
That’s Canadian though, so I’m not sure what the USD price is. I’m Canadian so paid the 1599. In comparisons for the guys that don’t know, lone peak is 2500, terminus/impaxt 2200+, defiance is 2200, origin 1400 range.
didn't it headspace when you tried originally? did torquing it make that much difference?
He says usually there’s 1.5-2 thou crush when you torque it on.
