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I had a short exchange with them via email.

Looks like a very capable device for about 1/2 of what a UTCxii costs. They won't sell the civies the mil version which is ratttarded. The screen specs look quite nice. Doubt it has an optical wedge / risley prism, so not a true clip-on. Maybe they've engineered some new tech to negate the need?

Another member on here has first hand experience on these units. I'm sure he'll speak up.
 

TheHorta

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I have some experience behind both the Tilo 640 and the TigIR-6M. They either (a) don’t seem too motivated to penetrate the US market or (b) there are hurdles that they’re having difficulty negotiating. Andres isn’t exactly a well known entity in the US, and L3Harris/EOTech has the .GOV market sewn-up while Trijicon and others have the domestic market.

That said, the Tilo/TigIR products are flat-out awesome. The TigIR-6M is every bit a UTC-Xii competitor and it has a retail price of $12K. Because EU gun laws being what they are, anything that is compatible with a 1913 rail is automatically a .MIL product, which to us here is idiotic. I believe Andres would be reasonable and open the 6M to .CIV purchase in the US market.

The Tilo is a sweet little piece of kit, and works great on a helmet. The TigIR is a home run in thermal clip-ons and doesn’t give away much at all to the UTC. It is smaller, lighter, has a higher resolution display, similar detection range, and has a sub-MOA POI shift in my testing.

I’m on the short-list for a personal unit. If/when I get one, you can be sure I’ll waste little time in doing my patented Horta Humblebrag. 😊
 
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Max_R

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I know guys from Andres Industries and have a lot of respect for them. They are designing and building new and innovative products in Germany and they are doing their best to make them right. The problem with export to the US and other countries is related to German laws. Any product that may remotely look as military or weapon mountable is a big "no-no".
 
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That's too bad. I wonder if they can just leave some threads tapped into the bottom and sell a mount as a separate US only accessory... I'd buy on right away.
 
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This is Will from Will's Optics! We will be submitting an order next week, taking preorders now. Tilo 3Z+ and 6Z+ are on the shelf ready to ship. TigIR will be available end of August/Mid September, also taking preorders now.
 
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