Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

[sgj2025]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Had to sell my DTA this spring, worked a bunch of overtime this summer and had Stacey hook me up with an AIAX in 308. One very fine rifle, still getting used to the non-bullpup design that I really liked and it fit me well. Have only been able to put about 200 rounds through it, but so far loving it. Did I need an AW prolly not, an Ae would have done the job. But now I have no room to second guess my decision. I couldnt afford the can right off the bat, but hope to have one in the spring. If you go the AI route Stacey at mile high is great to do business with, he was patient and answered all my dumb questions.

 

[BLANKSGUNS]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Oh, I don't know, you might have to convince me you will treat the AE MKIII nicely, take it out for weekend shoots, keep it clean and not talk SHIT about it........

But seriously, now with the AE MKIII upgrades, it is truly an outstanding addition to anyones collection. Have a great weekend to all.

 

[SSG3K]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

LOL

 

[skog]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

since there is a bunch of knowledge about AI here. Will the viperskins fit the AI AE? Love the AI, HATE the stock! Otherwise it is the trg.

 

[5RWill]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since there is a bunch of knowledge about AI here. Will the viperskins fit the AI AE? Love the AI, HATE the stock! Otherwise it is the trg. </div></div>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjTlegEOX-g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35qYte7x_q8

I believe Lone has his in the viper skin.

 

[gugubica]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

I find it interesting that 90% of the people that say you are waisting money on AE have never actually owned one. Do you need one to be competative, no? Does it make it easier, yup.

Are they worth it? Yes. I have been through everything else and have no desire to try anything different. If i would have started with an AI, I would have saved a lot of money.

All I know is that I sent my bolt to a Smith to have the pin hole sleaved (long story) and he sent it back because the material was to hard to drill with a carbide bit. He said it was the only manufacturer that he had ever seen that he couldn't get through and he does thousands a year.

I am pretty sure my action has mill marks on it, too. Either way, it has been perfect and I am shitty to my rifles. Clean...why, oil...once in a blue moon. I have dirt and dust from Kentucky, Texas, Oklahoma and Missouri on my bolt and in my action. I have run it in freezing rain and snow, 2 degrees below to well into the hundreds.

Smooth as butter and accurate as hell. I have been through four barrels and am getting ready to screw on another. A standard AW cut headspaces perfectly. 15 minutes and its ready to go.

The biggest downside is that it is so smooth, I can't tell the difference between chambering a round and closing the bolt on an empty mag...did i say it is smooth.

If you like the AicS, you will love an AE.

 

[skog]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

awesome. Stacey PM incoming.

 

[5RWill]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gugubica</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The biggest downside is that it is so smooth, I can't tell the difference between chambering a round and closing the bolt on an empty mag...did i say it is smooth.</div></div>

Thats awesome.

I didn't get the notion people were saying it's a waste of money. I certainly don't think so but i believe in buying what you want/like, end of story.

 

[BLANKSGUNS]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Yes the Viper Skins will bolt on but they are currently not offered for the rifle systems. The right side will have the cut out for the bolt lug but soon they will be offered for the AE/AW systems. So solution for your issue will be available prior to the end of the year.

 

[LoneWolfUSMC]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">since there is a bunch of knowledge about AI here. Will the viperskins fit the AI AE? Love the AI, HATE the stock! Otherwise it is the trg. </div></div>

Yes.

As Stacey mentioned, there will be a gap around the bolt handle cut until Victor Company gets done with the AE/AW specific skins. Honestly it's easy to forget the cutout is there if you are really set on getting them now.

 

[In2b8u]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Just gonna have to sit here and wait patiently for a LH AIAE.......

 

[student 86]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

And I will be waiting for one in 7mm wsm.

 

[Smith44699]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

I just ordered my first AW from Stacey. Yes I bit the bullet and got my balls out of my wife's purse. -just kidding-. I wish I would have done it sooner. I missed an October match because I was doing some speed drills and my 700 bolt was in hand. Although I am on my third barrel. Abused the shit out of the rifle. It still pissed me off enough to spend 2 maybe 3 hours on the phone with Stacey answering all of my questions. Just to get a rifle I should have bought 10 years ago. Thanks Stacey again for all of your help. To answer the post question. Do I believe any of the AI stuff is worth the money? Hell yes! Will it hurt when you buy one? Hell yes! Will you ever regret it? Hell no. The only thing you will regret is not buying one. I know I don't personally own one. I have been around my buddies AW for 10 years. He has never had any drama with that rifle. Just my opinion.

 

[Mo_Zam_Beek]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: student 86</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And I will be waiting for one in 7mm wsm. </div></div>

I was under the impression that either a 7 wsm or a .300 wsm = a short action + a barrel change. Do these two rounds fit and feed from existing mags?




Good luck

 

[gugubica]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

The WSMs need a .555 bolt face.

 

[AvsFan]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Yes and then some...BTW, I just purchased my 1st precision bolt rifle over the summer - an AI AE MkIII from Mile High Shooting

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Cheers,

AvsFan

 

[Intrepid4576]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sgj2025</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> If you go the AI route Stacey at mile high is great to do business with, he was patient and answered all my dumb questions. </div></div>

+1 he is top notch to deal with (just like the AI rifles ) he answered tons of my newb / dumb questions without ever getting annoyed with me and remaining completely patient

Ive had nothing but extremely positive experiences with him and MHS

if i could ever afford to get an ax (would have to sell my AW) id def go threw MHS / stacey

 

[tbugher62]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Of course they are worth the money,just ask all the guys that are selling theirs for half what they paid for them here on the hide.

 

[Redmanss]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nevada Hunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course they are worth the money,just ask all the guys that are selling theirs for half what they paid for them here on the hide.</div></div> I may not browse the FS forum that much, but where do you find AIs going for 50% MSRP at? Please point me in the direction as I'm in the market for one if they're going at those prices.

....or is someone just exaggerating a bit.

 

[dteam702]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nevada Hunter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Of course they are worth the money,just ask all the guys that are selling theirs for half what they paid for them here on the hide. </div></div>

I just bought an AX, but if there's more out there for half the price.. I want more!!!!

Please throw us guys the link.

 

[BLANKSGUNS]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Well unfortunately for Left Handed shooters you will be waiting I suspect a long while. The AW finally was offered in LH, sold everyone we could get and could use more, but LH guns are a very small number in the big picture and its hard to get them into a manufacturing run when the schedule is filled 6-12 months out for everything else they can make. Will it ever happen, possibly, do I expect it soon or would I wait to buy until then, NO.

As for the WSM setup, its more than a barrel change. These calibers require a magnum bolt head setup which is currently a 6 lug vs the standard bolt head which is a 3 lug. That as well means the lock ring, extractor, barrel and magazine modification is required to make the WSM possible. Do expect these in the near future, no sir not really.

I believe the 50% sales price as compared to purchase price to be a bit misleading. The reality for example, say a customer is selling an AE MKI for $2k, current AE MKIII price is $3600 (full retail). Used gun sure, when the original owner purchased the weapon 3+ years ago or more to be safe, I remember the price being a bit lower as well, not to mention we have sold AE MKI and MKII demo and closeouts this year for some smoking deals as well. As it goes, the AI products always hold their respective value longer and better than most any system on the market + there is always a demand for them as well. You would think as soon as the AX .338 was announced the AWSM .338 sales would plummet and just dry up. On the contrary, the customers which have always wanted the AWSM .338 Legacy model, simply stepped up and purchased what they always wanted, could get due to limited availability and in some cases bought a second one!

 

[dteam702]

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You guys open today Stacey?

 

[BLANKSGUNS]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Nope just in the house for a few, having coffee and about to go out and clean my gutters and get the leaves cleaned up, it a mess here. Whats up? Send me a PM and I will be in and out.

 

[SSG3K]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

This is still going??? LOL

 

[BLANKSGUNS]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

yeah because you stirred the pot and then ran buddy.

 

[SSG3K]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Rofl, sorry.

 

[Casey Simpson]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

STEWART, J., Concurring Opinion

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

378 U.S. 184

Jacobellis v. Ohio

APPEAL FROM THE SUPREME COURT OF OHIO

No. 11 Argued: March 26, 1963 --- Decided: June 22, 1964
MR. JUSTICE STEWART, concurring.

It is possible to read the Court's opinion in Roth v. United States and Alberts v. California, 354 U.S. 476, in a variety of ways. In saying this, I imply no criticism of the Court, which, in those cases, was faced with the task of trying to define what may be indefinable. I have reached the conclusion, which I think is confirmed at least by negative implication in the Court's decisions since Roth and Alberts, [n1] that, under the First and Fourteenth Amendments, criminal laws in this area are constitutionally limited to hard-core pornography. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">[n2] <span style="font-size: 11pt">I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description, and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it, and the motion picture involved in this case is not that.</span></div></div>

<span style="color: #3333FF">Point? We can't define for the inquirer every reason the AI is superior to a M700. As Justice Stewart wrote about pornography / obscenity, "I can't define it but I know it when I see it."

Once you've handled and fired an AI you might agree, or you might not. These are serious guns not meant to take up space in a safe. They're like race horses or fast cars. Its attributes are unknown unless they're run. I've run both, exhaustively. AI customer service is unequaled.

If one must ask this question one's point of progress in evolving in this sport is yet to achieve the level that would appreciate the AI. They're professional weapons.


</span>

 

[steve123]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a Nesika 7WSM that is fine but only has 2k rounds through it

The one I trashed was the 308 which needed to be completely reworked by GAP to make function. It completely galled up and would no longer work. I replaced it with a GAP Templar and had new rifle built in its place.

I like a TRG, I have one, but I am Fully an AI guy, its no compromise.

I have pretty much one of everything but mostly default to AI

</div></div>

Hmm, That's interesting about the Nesika and the galling.

I noticed you really like the Bighorn actions. It would be a tough call for me choosing them or a Surgeon 591.

Never owned a AI. If I get tired of the TRG I just bought AI is next on the list. All I know is I'm a little bored with my M700.

Thanks for replying.

 

[GMZ]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

Damn this deployment money is burning holes in my pockets.

 

[Black-X]

Re: Are AI AE rifles worth the money?

I'm not a profeshunul but I ordered an AE Mk III anyway.