I have both early and late. Both have it.Taking pics of this spotter to sell online. Then saw what appeared to be the green hue of a laser protection filter on the front objective lens. I've owned it for over 10 years. Its a Bausch & Lomb Elite 15~45X60 that was advertised as a Litton M144. I assumed it was just a standard B&L model with some unit markings added to make it look military issue.
The 1st picture is a previous sale for an actuall M144.
The next pics are of my scope. Look closely, theres a light gray retaining ring that looks out of place. And there's that green lens. Is this a later version of the M144 that came with the LPF already installed, and not a separate add-on?
I actually bought this just prior to seeing your postings. And yes it wad attached to a sunshade that wad threaded, the sunshade actually for my Ultra but is unlike any of the other sunshades I have with the threading. Other than a few pics of the Hide, some posted by me, others by Eodsix, as you said, yes a rare item.There is a rare M24 EMA/ARD KillFlash on eBay right now. It's attached to a sun shield from what I can tell and not the EMA, but these things are few and far between.
I screenshot your ebay auction and saw its engraved for the M24. Nice! Can you give the nsn #'s for both ema and ard. Trying to figure out the timeframe both became available. The June 2003 update TM shows your EMA with the white alignment marking at the front. But theres no mention of the Tenebraex ARD.I actually bought this just prior to seeing your postings. And yes it wad attached to a sunshade that wad threaded, the sunshade actually for my Ultra but is unlike any of the other sunshades I have with the threading. Other than a few pics of the Hide, some posted by me, others by Eodsix, as you said, yes a rare item.
Also got these in the mail today after several years of searching. Original laser filters. I've had the Mk11/M110 style prior and it's always bugged me not to have the right one.
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The ard is nsn 6650-01-456-6515, obviously dual threaded and about 50mm. The EMA is nsn 1240-01-380-6326. I believe cage code 2f18.I screenshot your ebay auction and saw its engraved for the M24. Nice! Can you give the nsn #'s for both ema and ard. Trying to figure out the timeframe both became available. The June 2003 update TM shows your EMA with the white alignment marking at the front. But theres no mention of the Tenebraex ARD.
Yeah that’s not right haha. Someone added Arms, M24 and the U.S markings.
It’s also a SA stainless action which the M24 never used. I’d be sending that crap back.
Wow! Just, wow. PTG may have bought the rights to call themselves the” Remington custom shop” at least that is the impression I get reading their web site. It is a huge stretch to remark it an M24, even if it was from Remington Defense, and you had the legal right to call yourself the custom shop!Picked this up from PTG. They say it came straight from Remington Defense. It is a short action, FOIA says Army has no record of it. The M24 marking on it does not match with the Model 700, but PTG says that it is exactly how it came. Any thoughts?
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The original first issue sight bases were manufactured by Redfield, but they are long out of business. You can search for take-off parts on gunboards. But they are literally worth their weight in gold, meaning if you weighed the 2 bases, the sale prices are equivalent to what 14K gold sells for. Not even exaggerating!Question. Building my clone. Barrel got ordered yesterday, but as this is a pre GWOT 24, I need the front site base and rear, who these days make them and or where can they be found?
Just scored the correct redfield front sight base for $20 on eBayHere are front sight bases that I found based off of measurements that people posted earlier on the thread.
https://freelandssports.com/product/us-1-sight-and-scope-bases-562-hole-mount/
I have a .175 high one, and it doesn't seem quite high enough, but at 18 bucks it was worth a shot.
Picked this up from PTG. They say it came straight from Remington Defense. It is a short action, FOIA says Army has no record of it. The M24 marking on it does not match with the Model 700, but PTG says that it is exactly how it came. Any thoughts?
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Picked this up from PTG. They say it came straight from Remington Defense. It is a short action, FOIA says Army has no record of it. The M24 marking on it does not match with the Model 700, but PTG says that it is exactly how it came. Any thoughts?
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That’s funny. I talked about this with theUpdate - it is Pacific Tool and Gauge (PTG) making these forgeries. Really disappointed in their company to see them releasing fake products with misleading descriptions to take advantage of collectors to make an extra dollar. They are really poisoning the well with these and i hope no one on this forum gets taken on these.
Emailed* with OTB, seems they got sold snake oil by PTG. I dont fault them. They are reputable and I have purchased things from them in the past.That's wild! Really disappointed to see that Pacific Tool and Gauge and Only The Best Firearms are trying to screw people over with fake M24 receivers. Glad you put them on notice. The lasering looks fucking awful and I'm baffled anyone has bid on it, never mind for what they're asking. With how bad it looks, you sorta have to wonder if the bidders know it's a fake?.. Then the real crime is someone paying $1200+ for a molested Remington 700 action
Exactly, it is wrong in a lot of ways. Further to your points, there are no screw holes for the back-up iron sights. It's not even close!
In my opinion, it appears they ruined a perfectly good commercial receiver.
I should add that there were some legit short action M24 receivers that were probably made for a foreign military or law enforcement contract. @ilikebmxbikes had some posted a year or so ago. I can't find a picture of them, but they didn't look like the one above.
Update - it is Pacific Tool and Gauge (PTG) making these forgeries. Really disappointed in their company to see them releasing fake products with misleading descriptions to take advantage of collectors to make an extra dollar. They are really poisoning the well with these and i hope no one on this forum gets taken on these.
Emailed* with OTB, seems they got sold snake oil by PTG. I dont fault them. They are reputable and I have purchased things from them in the past.
ya, its copy and paste from PTGStill they are selling them with a title of "Remington 700 LA M24 U.S. Factory Barreled Action 24" RR series marked". The only hint that they know they are fake is the word "style" in the description: "1 - Remington 700 LA U.S. M24 Military Style Receiver".
They need to just come clean and call them as what they are, or they are as guilty as the ones who faked them originally.
Still they are selling them with a title of "Remington 700 LA M24 U.S. Factory Barreled Action 24" RR series marked". The only hint that they know they are fake is the word "style" in the description: "1 - Remington 700 LA U.S. M24 Military Style Receiver".
They need to just come clean and call them as what they are, or they are as guilty as the ones who faked them originally.