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Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: our gang</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
My postings reflect 66 years of living all over the world and now not having to tolerate uneducated, inexperienced, functional illerterate boomers and X gen dweebs who have never had a tough moment in their meaningless lives. BUT not to worry you may just get a chance when Iran get a few dozen nukes to play with.</div></div> Who the fuck do you think you are and what the fuck do you think you know. The only thing your posts reflect is your intolerance for your own continued education, continued experience and the knowledge of others.
You are the functional illiterate baby boomer. You can't even spell illiterate.
What do you know about tough moments? Every one of my seniors who traveled the rough road offered advice. They didn't impose their bullshit on others.
Why do you come to a site called "Sniper's Hide" and continually degrade the forum members for having a common interest in long range shooting. There are other forums where your interests and the type of hunting and shooting you find suitable are shared. Why don't you go there. Stop interfering with the sharing of knowledge here.
Are you trying to make this forum a failure? Is that your goal?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: our gang</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
My postings reflect 66 years of living all over the world and now not having to tolerate uneducated, inexperienced, functional illerterate boomers and X gen dweebs who have never had a tough moment in their meaningless lives. BUT not to worry you may just get a chance when Iran get a few dozen nukes to play with.</div></div> Who the fuck do you think you are and what the fuck do you think you know. The only thing your posts reflect is your intolerance for your own continued education, continued experience and the knowledge of others.
You are the functional illiterate baby boomer. You can't even spell illiterate.
What do you know about tough moments? Every one of my seniors who traveled the rough road offered advice. They didn't impose their bullshit on others.
Why do you come to a site called "Sniper's Hide" and continually degrade the forum members for having a common interest in long range shooting. There are other forums where your interests and the type of hunting and shooting you find suitable are shared. Why don't you go there. Stop interfering with the sharing of knowledge here.
Are you trying to make this forum a failure? Is that your goal?
Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CD0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just finished reading an article on the July 2007 issue of American hunter "Can you go Long" (I think). On one of the pages it had a survey of average hunter skills. It was 30 hunters so I guess that qualifies as average..anyway.
The 1st thing that came to mind was I'm not the best shot in the world but WTF Over!!! ALL 30 would not shoot a 12inch "shoot and see" target with or without support. Man are you kidding me at least 80% of the RECRUITS I trained would be able to hit that 3-4/5 times from the sitting position from 300 yards with only a sling. That is with open sights the guys on the article had scopes.
Do people really need that much help shooting?? (My words of choice are others but I will be nice) </div></div>
While I'm thinking about it: is that article available online anywhere? I'd like to read it. I checked AH's website and zilcho.
Thanks!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CD0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just finished reading an article on the July 2007 issue of American hunter "Can you go Long" (I think). On one of the pages it had a survey of average hunter skills. It was 30 hunters so I guess that qualifies as average..anyway.
The 1st thing that came to mind was I'm not the best shot in the world but WTF Over!!! ALL 30 would not shoot a 12inch "shoot and see" target with or without support. Man are you kidding me at least 80% of the RECRUITS I trained would be able to hit that 3-4/5 times from the sitting position from 300 yards with only a sling. That is with open sights the guys on the article had scopes.
Do people really need that much help shooting?? (My words of choice are others but I will be nice) </div></div>
While I'm thinking about it: is that article available online anywhere? I'd like to read it. I checked AH's website and zilcho.
Thanks!
Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Super Bee 950</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this guy easy to bait OR WHAT!!!
Funny how the critics of the late model Bee bring up the original ones, yet have to look on other websites to even get a picture of one. I guess this makes you a nostalgic web surfer..
And dont brag about cameras when you used this to take your latest elk picture.
Released in 2004, the Nikon Coolpix 3200 digital camera was designed for ease of use. It offers lots of automatic settings to make picture taking easy. An ideal first digital camera </div></div>
Look at the date in the EXIF data. Revealing
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Super Bee 950</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is this guy easy to bait OR WHAT!!!
Funny how the critics of the late model Bee bring up the original ones, yet have to look on other websites to even get a picture of one. I guess this makes you a nostalgic web surfer..
And dont brag about cameras when you used this to take your latest elk picture.
Released in 2004, the Nikon Coolpix 3200 digital camera was designed for ease of use. It offers lots of automatic settings to make picture taking easy. An ideal first digital camera </div></div>
Look at the date in the EXIF data. Revealing
Re: Average hunter skills
I dont use photoshop, I think this is funny as hell
I can buy elk meat... You cant afford a Charger. Isnt that cool!
Hope you like this as much as the other one,
I dont use photoshop, I think this is funny as hell
I can buy elk meat... You cant afford a Charger. Isnt that cool!
Hope you like this as much as the other one,
Re: Average hunter skills
This strikes me as yet another instance of some dumb shit old guy thinking simply living to X age being just smart enough not to get hit by a passing bus somehow makes them more intelligent, skilled or insightful than someone younger....
This strikes me as yet another instance of some dumb shit old guy thinking simply living to X age being just smart enough not to get hit by a passing bus somehow makes them more intelligent, skilled or insightful than someone younger....
Re: Average hunter skills
66 year olds do not use the term "LOL" in my experience. I think we are being duped gentlemen.
I have not ONCE, EVER heard any of my older compadres use that term. They probably don't even know what it means.
Food for thought. I think someone's grandson is playing on the computer
66 year olds do not use the term "LOL" in my experience. I think we are being duped gentlemen.
I have not ONCE, EVER heard any of my older compadres use that term. They probably don't even know what it means.
Food for thought. I think someone's grandson is playing on the computer
Re: Average hunter skills
I guess the thread is so far off topic that it should be no longer be bothered with.
thanks for all nice conversation. I'll leave you all with a picture of a place I love and 99.9% of you will never see.
I guess the thread is so far off topic that it should be no longer be bothered with.
thanks for all nice conversation. I'll leave you all with a picture of a place I love and 99.9% of you will never see.
Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: our gang</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'll leave you all with a picture of a place I love and 99.9% of you will never see.</div></div>
I guess I'm the .1% he's counting.
Two more threads he's rendered pointless with his ignorance and unfounded arrogance.
WTF?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: our gang</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I'll leave you all with a picture of a place I love and 99.9% of you will never see.</div></div>
I guess I'm the .1% he's counting.
Two more threads he's rendered pointless with his ignorance and unfounded arrogance.
WTF?
Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and og get this, ive killed more trophy big game animals than you will ever see total in your life time.42 years experience hunting in the west and north america. i can smell a phoney a mile away and you top the list!
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This could get good... when I get home, I'm gonna make some popcorn, grab a cocktail and log on... ;-)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">and og get this, ive killed more trophy big game animals than you will ever see total in your life time.42 years experience hunting in the west and north america. i can smell a phoney a mile away and you top the list!
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This could get good... when I get home, I'm gonna make some popcorn, grab a cocktail and log on... ;-)
Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: our gang</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I do have a 2500 4x4 Cummins, a Hemi AWD Magnum, a twin cam Neon, a Miata, 2 horses, 3 bicycles, a scooter, 2 boats, a ranch in WY and a home in Key West
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Know what you dont have..........A FUCKIN CLUE!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: our gang</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I do have a 2500 4x4 Cummins, a Hemi AWD Magnum, a twin cam Neon, a Miata, 2 horses, 3 bicycles, a scooter, 2 boats, a ranch in WY and a home in Key West
</div></div>
Know what you dont have..........A FUCKIN CLUE!
Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: our gang</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well hate to break it to you but IME, even us old farts can pick up on internet jargon. You know like LOL, FYI, IME, IMO etc. Your old buds probably don't run an internet dependent publishing business and are not on it as much as I am. So your food for thought is fried crow...enjoy it.
For ATH, age does bring some measure of wisdom and 50 years as a hunter, target shooter, reloader etc brings some more. The problem with you young pups is you think, as I did when I was one, that you have all the answers. Always reminds me of the story of the old bull and the young bull......... or the anecdote about the "ute" saying:" When I was 16 I couldn't believe what an idiot my father was, but I was amazed how much he learned by the time I was 21."
As for superbee or wannabe... no I dont have a Charger like yours as it's about as useful as tits on a boar hog. I do have a 2500 4x4 Cummins, a Hemi AWD Magnum, a twin cam Neon, a Miata, 2 horses, 3 bicycles, a scooter, 2 boats, a ranch in WY and a home in Key West so that's probably more than a 20 something with a four door sedan with some fancy paint in nowhere texas. As a wise attorney knows: "Never ask a question that you don't already have the answer to."
I guess the thread is so far off topic that it should be no longer be bothered with.
thanks for all nice conversation. I'll leave you all with a picture of a place I love and 99.9% of you will never see.
</div></div>
oh look! I have seen this pictures too! About 50 freaking times!
Nobody likes you.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: our gang</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well hate to break it to you but IME, even us old farts can pick up on internet jargon. You know like LOL, FYI, IME, IMO etc. Your old buds probably don't run an internet dependent publishing business and are not on it as much as I am. So your food for thought is fried crow...enjoy it.
For ATH, age does bring some measure of wisdom and 50 years as a hunter, target shooter, reloader etc brings some more. The problem with you young pups is you think, as I did when I was one, that you have all the answers. Always reminds me of the story of the old bull and the young bull......... or the anecdote about the "ute" saying:" When I was 16 I couldn't believe what an idiot my father was, but I was amazed how much he learned by the time I was 21."
As for superbee or wannabe... no I dont have a Charger like yours as it's about as useful as tits on a boar hog. I do have a 2500 4x4 Cummins, a Hemi AWD Magnum, a twin cam Neon, a Miata, 2 horses, 3 bicycles, a scooter, 2 boats, a ranch in WY and a home in Key West so that's probably more than a 20 something with a four door sedan with some fancy paint in nowhere texas. As a wise attorney knows: "Never ask a question that you don't already have the answer to."
I guess the thread is so far off topic that it should be no longer be bothered with.
thanks for all nice conversation. I'll leave you all with a picture of a place I love and 99.9% of you will never see.
</div></div>
oh look! I have seen this pictures too! About 50 freaking times!
Nobody likes you.
Re: Average hunter skills
this has been entertaining to say the least. I just can't seem to get how all this started when the tittle of the thread says it all
"Average hunter skills" well........ they are AVERAGE that means some are better and some are worse.
I do hope you guys keep it going, it makes me laugh.
KT
this has been entertaining to say the least. I just can't seem to get how all this started when the tittle of the thread says it all
"Average hunter skills" well........ they are AVERAGE that means some are better and some are worse.
I do hope you guys keep it going, it makes me laugh.
KT
Re: Average hunter skills
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Too bad all that "experience" didn't translate into any useful knowledge or psychological maturity...you've shown neither to be in your possession in any of your ramblings here.
When everyone reacts negatively to you, your first thought is "idiot young pups". You lack the introspection to examine your behavior and realize it's not everyone else, it's YOU.
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Too bad all that "experience" didn't translate into any useful knowledge or psychological maturity...you've shown neither to be in your possession in any of your ramblings here.
When everyone reacts negatively to you, your first thought is "idiot young pups". You lack the introspection to examine your behavior and realize it's not everyone else, it's YOU.
Re: Average hunter skills
Key west if full of fags. Sorry man, I'm just gonna have to say your full of shit. You also probably pertake in that crossdressing week parade they have down there don't you. Assless chaps FTL!!
Key west if full of fags. Sorry man, I'm just gonna have to say your full of shit. You also probably pertake in that crossdressing week parade they have down there don't you. Assless chaps FTL!!
Re: Average hunter skills
Continental Airlines... you work for them and cannot even spell it? Glad I fly American.
I'm sorry gay people scare you so much. That is usually a sign of a repressed desire to be one. I might point out that all chaps are "assless" but who would expect a guy who rides the seat in a bankrupt airline to know that. Probably too busy hitting on the male flight attendents.
Continental Airlines... you work for them and cannot even spell it? Glad I fly American.
I'm sorry gay people scare you so much. That is usually a sign of a repressed desire to be one. I might point out that all chaps are "assless" but who would expect a guy who rides the seat in a bankrupt airline to know that. Probably too busy hitting on the male flight attendents.
Re: Average hunter skills
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Re: Average hunter skills
sounds good to me. i can take a buttchewin and move on!
weda, awesome country!
sounds good to me. i can take a buttchewin and move on!
weda, awesome country!
Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CD0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just finished reading an article on the July 2007 issue of American hunter "Can you go Long" (I think). On one of the pages it had a survey of average hunter skills. It was 30 hunters so I guess that qualifies as average..anyway.
The 1st thing that came to mind was I'm not the best shot in the world but WTF Over!!! ALL 30 would not shoot a 12inch "shoot and see" target with or without support. Man are you kidding me at least 80% of the RECRUITS I trained would be able to hit that 3-4/5 times from the sitting position from 300 yards with only a sling. That is with open sights the guys on the article had scopes.
Do people really need that much help shooting?? (My words of choice are others but I will be nice) </div></div>
While I'm thinking about it: is that article available online anywhere? I'd like to read it. I checked AH's website and zilcho.
Thanks!
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I don't know. I'll try to find it. I read it when I was in Afghanistan a few weeks ago.
Thanks Rob01
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CD0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just finished reading an article on the July 2007 issue of American hunter "Can you go Long" (I think). On one of the pages it had a survey of average hunter skills. It was 30 hunters so I guess that qualifies as average..anyway.
The 1st thing that came to mind was I'm not the best shot in the world but WTF Over!!! ALL 30 would not shoot a 12inch "shoot and see" target with or without support. Man are you kidding me at least 80% of the RECRUITS I trained would be able to hit that 3-4/5 times from the sitting position from 300 yards with only a sling. That is with open sights the guys on the article had scopes.
Do people really need that much help shooting?? (My words of choice are others but I will be nice) </div></div>
While I'm thinking about it: is that article available online anywhere? I'd like to read it. I checked AH's website and zilcho.
Thanks!
</div></div>
I don't know. I'll try to find it. I read it when I was in Afghanistan a few weeks ago.
Thanks Rob01
Re: Average hunter skills
Score! My friend kept his copy so I got a chance to read it the other night.
Not only were the hit percentages pretty dismal, but the group sizes at 100 were pretty lousy as well.
I hope the article encouraged people to be a little more honest with themselves and get out and practice.
Score! My friend kept his copy so I got a chance to read it the other night.
Not only were the hit percentages pretty dismal, but the group sizes at 100 were pretty lousy as well.
I hope the article encouraged people to be a little more honest with themselves and get out and practice.
Re: Average hunter skills
Practice Practice Practice. No matter what you're skill level was, it isn't what it was the last time you went to the range.
There are a lot of hunters who only shoot 5-10 rnds a year out of there hunting stick. Lots of hunters dont zero there scopes every year. My dad is one of those. I always harp on him to rezero his -06 every year and I dont think he has in 6-8 years. But he's still killing whitetail.
One of the big differences is that we actual or self proclaimed shooters excpect better from ourselves. Big difference between minute of deer and minute of angle. Most hunters are happy if the round hits inside of a 12" circle at 100. They might not say that when they are shooting, but at 100 meters they are happy with heart/lung shots. most of us are a little more precise with our shooting, im not shooting at the heart lung area, Im shooting at the top tip of the front shoulder, aprox a 1" target, now if I misjudge, it will still take the animal down.
Hunters are not shooters, unfortunatley. And the average accuracy among them is disgusting. But most of them haven't devoted they're lives to the way of the gun. They dont clean them well. And most spend less on the rifle/scope combo of there choice than most of us spend on just a scope.
But depending on your terain, good enough shooting might really be good enough. Im originally from PA, my deer rifle was a Marlin Levergun in .357 Mag. Taken many deer and have never taken a shot at more than 75 meters.
My $.02
Practice Practice Practice. No matter what you're skill level was, it isn't what it was the last time you went to the range.
There are a lot of hunters who only shoot 5-10 rnds a year out of there hunting stick. Lots of hunters dont zero there scopes every year. My dad is one of those. I always harp on him to rezero his -06 every year and I dont think he has in 6-8 years. But he's still killing whitetail.
One of the big differences is that we actual or self proclaimed shooters excpect better from ourselves. Big difference between minute of deer and minute of angle. Most hunters are happy if the round hits inside of a 12" circle at 100. They might not say that when they are shooting, but at 100 meters they are happy with heart/lung shots. most of us are a little more precise with our shooting, im not shooting at the heart lung area, Im shooting at the top tip of the front shoulder, aprox a 1" target, now if I misjudge, it will still take the animal down.
Hunters are not shooters, unfortunatley. And the average accuracy among them is disgusting. But most of them haven't devoted they're lives to the way of the gun. They dont clean them well. And most spend less on the rifle/scope combo of there choice than most of us spend on just a scope.
But depending on your terain, good enough shooting might really be good enough. Im originally from PA, my deer rifle was a Marlin Levergun in .357 Mag. Taken many deer and have never taken a shot at more than 75 meters.
My $.02
Re: Average hunter skills
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rdinsd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I roll down the window and use the mirror as a rest, I can place accurate shots for some distance.
For shots exceeding 300 yards, I use the hood of the truck as a rest.
Just a few weeks ago my shooting buddy hit a deer at 675 yards, measured with a Lieca 1200 using a dpms .308 with a Zeiss scope using the rapid Z reticle. He was shooting prone off the bipod. </div></div>
I think I know that guy!
Damned expensive deer meat if I remember correctly.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rdinsd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When I roll down the window and use the mirror as a rest, I can place accurate shots for some distance.
Just a few weeks ago my shooting buddy hit a deer at 675 yards, measured with a Lieca 1200 using a dpms .308 with a Zeiss scope using the rapid Z reticle. He was shooting prone off the bipod. </div></div>
I think I know that guy!
Re: Average hunter skills
Well said, I have to give you that. My personal beliefe is more - don't shoot if your not sure, and shoot if you are. But be sure to allways have in mind the margin of error (what ever that could be in that given situation).
Well said, I have to give you that. My personal beliefe is more - don't shoot if your not sure, and shoot if you are. But be sure to allways have in mind the margin of error (what ever that could be in that given situation).
