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Berger 200.20x for 308

SepticDeath

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I have a Rem700 with a 24 inch Bartlien barrel. Does anyone shoot these at mag length? I loaded a dummy round last night. Not sure on a starting powder charge either. I have Varget and H4895 on hand.
 
I have a Rem700 with a 24 inch Bartlien barrel. Does anyone shoot these at mag length? I loaded a dummy round last night. Not sure on a starting powder charge either. I have Varget and H4895 on hand.

Do you seriously mean to tell us that you couldn't take the five seconds it took me to type "berger reloading data" on your internet brower and see what came up?
 
Do you seriously mean to tell us that you couldn't take the five seconds it took me to type "berger reloading data" on your internet brower and see what came up?
Post me a link if it's so easy to find? Starting powder charge and mag length loads. OAL of 2.88 is the longest I can load them and functions in my magazine. I have looked.
 
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I don't think you really want to do that...

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On the right is a 20X seated where it should be, with the body/boat-tail junction above the case neck/shoulder junction, for a chamber with 0.170" freebore (OAL >3.1"). Even with that long of a freebore, and a 28-30" barrel... MV is around 2630-ish for the 'low' node - the one that won't wreck your brass in a couple firings.

On the left is a 20X seated down to 2.850" OAL.

And for the sake of argument/discussion... on the one hand, I consider the Berger load manual largely useless, as every single load is @ 2.800" - even for a 230gn Hybrid in a .308 Win. Sierra somehow figured out how to have 'bolt gun only' or 'specialty gun only' load data for the stuff that really needs a specific long freebore setup, but not Berger :rolleyes: 🤬

That said, this particular bullet came out well after the Berger loading manual. You might be able to fudge the numbers from a similar bullet, but then I'd recommend calling Berger/Lapua/Vihtavouri. Their tech support guys will be able to give you some base line data to at least start with.

Personally, I think it's a bad idea, and a waste of a really good bullet in a totally wrong application, but I've only been shooting them since before they were commercially available... ;)
 
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I don't think you really want to do that...

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On the right is a 20X seated where it should be, with the body/boat-tail junction above the case neck/shoulder junction, for a chamber with 0.170" freebore (OAL >3.1"). Even with that long of a freebore, and a 28-30" barrel... MV is around 2630-ish for the 'low' node - the one that won't wreck your brass in a couple firings.

On the left is a 20X seated down to 2.850" OAL.

And for the sake of argument/discussion... on the one hand, I consider the Berger load manual largely useless, as every single load is @ 2.800" - even for a 230gn Hybrid in a .308 Win. Sierra somehow figured out how to have 'bolt gun only' or 'specialty gun only' load data for the stuff that really needs a specific long freebore setup, but not Berger :rolleyes: 🤬

That said, this particular bullet came out well after the Berger loading manual. You might be able to fudge the numbers from a similar bullet, but then I'd recommend calling Berger/Lapua/Vihtavouri. Their tech support guys will be able to give you some base line data to at least start with.

Personally, I think it's a bad idea, and a waste of a really good bullet in a totally wrong application, but I've only been shooting them since before they were commercially available... ;)
Thanks for the advice. I made a dummy round up a few days ago and I had to seat it 2.880 for it fit and run in my magazine. I will probably single load these and use them as intended.