Bergers are the truth

[Jmccracken1214]

Used them once before years ago in my 6.5 and loved them but didn’t want to pay for them…
Went to Sierra and had good luck but recently ordered 1000 109 hybrids for my 6gt and dang they are worth it.
Just took 4 loads to the range at 2.6” 33.6, 33.8, 34 & 34.2gr of varget.

Not sure why the first shot in this group went a tad high but velocity with 33.8 in a 20” is 2837.

5 shots at 100 from my Remington with a criterion prefit.

I’ll take it!

 

[tinker]

It's funny you posted this today as today I was just shooting some bergers. I am cheap (all me friends know it).

I just starting loading 6BR and of course everyone raves about bergers.

so I bought some, but because I am cheap, I also bought some hornady match. Both same weight and type. Going to do a bunch of 5 shot groups to see if they are really worth the extra $ or not.......

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

It's funny you posted this today as today I was just shooting some bergers. I am cheap (all me friends know it).

I just starting loading 6BR and of course everyone raves about bergers.

so I bought some, but because I am cheap, I also bought some hornady match. Both same weight and type. Going to do a bunch of 5 shot groups to see if they are really worth the extra $ or not.......

Report back on results

 

[simonp]

Every time I have compared Bergers with SMKs, the Bergers outshine and outperform the SMKs.

 

[tinker]

Report back on results

I have been logging all of it. So far I have shot 60 rds of the hornady and just loaded the last 40 this afternoon and shot 60 rounds of the bergers and just loaded 40 of those. Technically I loaded a little more than 40 of the bergers but for the comparison I set 40 aside.

So I plan on shooting them tomorrow and adding all of the data up.

 

[tinker]

Every time I have compared Bergers with SMKs, the Bergers outshine and outperform the SMKs.

but was the difference enough to merit the cost???

 

[Kadams1563]

This. I have been shooting eld’s and just can’t seem to buy Berger BUT I haven’t gotten groups in the .3’s either lol.

I saw Berger just got three new bullet machines up and running. If they can’t get the 109’s pretty regular I might switch.

 

[simonp]

but was the difference enough to merit the cost???

That’s a tough call as it’s an individual decision. I’m trying to buy Bergers in 500 or 1,000 piece boxes to maximize value.

At the end of the day for me as much as I wish Bergers were cheaper & easier to find I find the price of them to be worth it over Sierras. I’ll load & use sierras if I’m just shooting steel.

 

[gigamortis]

Why have a top of the line hot rod rifle and feed it garbage 87 octane fuel?

 

[Jmccracken1214]

This. I have been shooting eld’s and just can’t seem to buy Berger BUT I haven’t gotten groups in the .3’s either lol.

I saw Berger just got three new bullet machines up and running. If they can’t get the 109’s pretty regular I might switch.

That is a .3 group with the high shot.
.168 without it.

 

[Jmccracken1214]

Why have a top of the line hot rod rifle and feed it garbage 87 octane fuel?

Id say I have the mustang gt of rifles lol

rem 700 with criterion remage prefit.

 

[tinker]

Why have a top of the line hot rod rifle and feed it garbage 87 octane fuel?

Because some of us drive our Lamborghini to work not for play.

If someone only needs to bang 3 moa targets why spend the money on 1/2 moa fuel when 1 moa is more than adequate???

You're analogy is like saying if you had a mustang you would only put nitro methane in it.

 

[TheOE800]

Why have a top of the line hot rod rifle and feed it garbage 87 octane fuel?

Don’t need r-comps for the street.

 

[tinker]

Don’t need r-comps for the street.

Very true. I just run 295-50 BFG's and plenty happy. also fun to romp on it and have em brake loose at 30mph

 

[TheOE800]

Very true. I just run 295-50 BFG's and plenty happy. also fun to romp on it and have em brake loose at 30mph

Ok sometimes you do need R-comps for the street but that better be a fair weather car.

 

[tinker]

Ok sometimes you do need R-comps for the street but that better be a fair weather car.

71 chevelle.

 

[kthomas]

Bergers shoot great, it's all I shoot pretty much. Makes reloading easy.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

71 chevelle.

Where are the pics???

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Bergers shoot great, it's all I shoot pretty much. Makes reloading easy.

Sure, just flaunt your wealth to us poors.

 

[tinker]

Where are the pics???

not gonna hijack the thread

 

[Jdowns0415]

Used them once before years ago in my 6.5 and loved them but didn’t want to pay for them…
Went to Sierra and had good luck but recently ordered 1000 109 hybrids for my 6gt and dang they are worth it.
Just took 4 loads to the range at 2.6” 33.6, 33.8, 34 & 34.2gr of varget.

Not sure why the first shot in this group went a tad high but velocity with 33.8 in a 20” is 2837.

5 shots at 100 from my Remington with a criterion prefit.

I’ll take it!
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all the bergers I load have shot well. My AR10 with criterion barrel loves the 130 AR hybrids, the D5 pro loves the 140's and heavier 6.5 bullets, my AR white oak barrel shot a 20 round rapid fire group of .7 at 200 yards, and my 6mm arc shoots the 105's sub MOA all day out of my Odin barrel. If I find them in stock at the shelf I use that 10% off military discount from bass pro and pick up as many as I can. Oddly enough though my barrels also love sierras and hornady bullets too but out at distance I find I have way better luck with bergers vs the other brands.

 

[Maurygold]

I shoot berger hybrid in every single last rifle I own and have never one time had to “try a different bullet” in a gun. They all shoot amazing. 20-40’ jump and it’s magic

 

[Ocean_Dweller]

I became a believer after my first box. I'll typically check a few bullets in a batch for BTO and weight. Sierras are pretty good but Bergers are typically within .002" BTO and .3grs in weight from one another. Nothing has come close. The worst I've seen in is Hornady 30cal 200gr ELD-X's. .020" variation in BTO an 3-5grs in weight. Garbage.

 

[Dogtown]

This. I have been shooting eld’s and just can’t seem to buy Berger BUT I haven’t gotten groups in the .3’s either lol.

I saw Berger just got three new bullet machines up and running. If they can’t get the 109’s pretty regular I might switch.

Keep an eye on the Powder in-Stock thread. I often add notifications about popular Berger bullets.

Like this...

Berger 6mm 109 Grain LRHT provides competitive PRS shooters and long range accuracy enthusiasts a level of precision and consistency unmatched by all other Rifle Bullet manufacturers.

<h1>Berger 6 mm 109 Long Range Hybrid Target Bullet Part# 24785 500/Box</h1> <p>Please do not place duplicate orders. We dont like to cancel orders. </p> <h2><strong>Product Description</strong></h2> <p>The 6mm 109 Grain LRHT provides competitive PRS shooters and long range accuracy enthusiasts...

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500/ea 109 LRHT

 

[tinker]

Report back on results

just finishing up editing a video going over the results....I was kinda surprised. I will try to post it later.