MDT HNT26 as long as it fits.
I have a HNT26 in hand and waiting but no CDG to drop into it.
It looks like the trigger hangar should clear, but don't know for sure until the action is here.
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Yep, definitely gave this one a hard look but, I wanted to keep with a quick adjust butt plate &, in the state I live, folding stocks are a no no. I can get a folding stock sent from another state but I'm not sure if I want to be looking over my shoulder there-after. If I'm caught, my firearms licence is cactus.I have a HNT26 in hand and waiting but no CDG to drop into it.
It looks like the trigger hangar should clear, but don't know for sure until the action is here.
Yep, definitely gave this one a hard look but, I wanted to keep with a quick adjust butt plate &, in the state I live, folding stocks are a no no. I can get a folding stock sent from another state but I'm not sure if I want to be looking over my shoulder there-after. If I'm caught, my firearms licence is cactus.
i wanted wood, could not find one i liked, so i ordered a foundationThanks for the feedback.
Are they a rattly settup with the adjustment system?
I can't see any way to tighten the system at all. The last thing I want is for the butt pad & cheek riser to be loose when behind the rifle.
If you reckon they're uncomfortable though, I think I'll keep looking.
I really like the Xylo but I'm kind of over the square, cold Aluminum.
I've looked at Woox. They are exceptionally well made. Maybe a Woox perhaps?
I really do like the Xylo & I'm thinking I could fairly easily make up some thin hardwood side runners on the fore hand section. It's a little heavier than I wanted but that's not a deal breaker. From what I've seen & read, if I stick with Teds Xylo, it's plug & play with AW mags which is what's really important to me. The Xylo also eliminates the need to inlet an M5 DBM & possibly pissing about getting the system to feed smoothly. All stuff I'm hesitant to deal with.No folding stock on a bolt rifle? Even I can have those, and I'm in California. It's not often I get to say I can legally own something that others can't, so I guess thanks for making the gun laws here look somewhat reasonable, at least when it comes to folding stocks on bolt action rifles?
If you want something with quick adjust features, look at something other than the Hnt26... The cheek and LOP adjustments need a hex key and you have to swap to different length bolts depending how many LOP spacers are installed. It is a very nice chassis for what it was designed to do, but does have some limitations based on the intended use.
If you didn't care about adding weight, you might be able to adapt and install a quick adjustable butt pad setup from another stock or chassis.
MDT Frontier TIMBR?i wanted wood, could not find one i liked, so i ordered a foundation
You’d have to add a third-party adjustable buttplate system, but older Rem 700 laminated wood thumbhole stocks are pretty comfy.I've been running an ACC on my rifle for the past 3 years. It's a great platform & has worked very well for the way I shoot but, I'm thinking I want to get back to a lighter more simple platform when I get the CDG.
I want to go a shorter, lighter barrel profile, a thumbhole stock for easier rifle manipulation & return to the warmth & softer feel of wood. I'd like to stay with the adjustability of the ACC which I find to be very beneficial.
I've been trawling the internet looking at everything I can find. I've looked at all kinds of custom thumbholes but I keep returning to the little cheap ass Boyd's "At-One", with adjustable butt plate & comb. There's a few thing I wish it had different but the overall package is basically what I'm looking for.
I've not seen a Boyds At-One in the flesh & was wondering if any of you guys has experience with them?
The one thing I don't prefer about the ACC is the thread adjustment system. I find it slow & cumbersome & I find myself making do instead of changing length of pull when I change to a different position in the vehicle.
I like the idea of the quick adjust system on the At-One but I don't know if it's a rattly, loose setup or not.
I really do like the Xylo & I'm thinking I could fairly easily make up some thin hardwood side runners on the fore hand section. It's a little heavier than I wanted but that's not a deal breaker. From what I've seen & read, if I stick with Teds Xylo, it's plug & play with AW mags which is what's really important to me. The Xylo also eliminates the need to inlet an M5 DBM & possibly pissing about getting the system to feed smoothly. All stuff I'm hesitant to deal with.
Yep, gave that a real hard look &, still on my short list. For the money they're asking though, I'm finding it rather difficult to find a reason to pass over the xylo. Hardwood ply must be hell expensive in Canada.MDT Frontier TIMBR?
I really do like the Xylo & I'm thinking I could fairly easily make up some thin hardwood side runners on the fore hand section. It's a little heavier than I wanted but that's not a deal breaker. From what I've seen & read, if I stick with Teds Xylo, it's plug & play with AW mags which is what's really important to me. The Xylo also eliminates the need to inlet an M5 DBM & possibly pissing about getting the system to feed smoothly. All stuff I'm hesitant to deal with.
I've never preferred the look of this style but they are dang comfy.You’d have to add a third-party adjustable buttplate system, but older Rem 700 laminated wood thumbhole stocks are pretty comfy.
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I imagine the CDG action would fit as it fits Rem 700 stocks (I think?). And yeah, that’s the prev owner’s pics of my .204 before I sold the crap scope and put it in a KRG W3 chassis. (Not selling the stock lol)
GRS has some interesting lam wood stocks, but no thumbholes that I know of. Obviously Boyd’s makes stocks like above, and not sure if the options you can add to them.
The little I played with a Boyd’s At-One at the gun shop left me less than impressed. There wasn’t a limiter on some bit that I’ve forgotten (buttpad? cheekpiece?) and I accidentally pulled it off and a spring went flying to no man’s land, never to be found again. Handed the gun back and went, whoops!
Maybe they’ve improved it? That was pre-Covid.
I'm open to all suggestions & I do like the Xylo quite a lot.A while back there was a xylo on the PX with custom wood panels on the front... It looked rather nice, actually. Might be a good option.
Was not aware of Woox that is a sweet looking stockThanks for the feedback.
Are they a rattly settup with the adjustment system?
I can't see any way to tighten the system at all. The last thing I want is for the butt pad & cheek riser to be loose when behind the rifle.
If you reckon they're uncomfortable though, I think I'll keep looking.
I really like the Xylo but I'm kind of over the square, cold Aluminum.
I've looked at Woox. They are exceptionally well made. Maybe a Woox perhaps?
honestly, if the grip was wood, maybe
Since you're waiting on the action, send me your HNT 26 so I can get this thing built.I have a HNT26 in hand and waiting but no CDG to drop into it.
It looks like the trigger hangar should clear, but don't know for sure until the action is here.
Last time I used the Boyd’s stock customization tool to spec a stock out, I do believe one could order an adjustable buttplate on certain stocks. Probably crap quality, though.I've never preferred the look of this style but they are dang comfy.
Having to piss about getting aftermarket adjustment fitted is something I'm trying to avoid.
In the US, you guys have plenty of choice when it comes to Smiths & stock makers & such. Our choices are much slimmer & wait times are usually very lengthy.
I've recently heard about a stock maker in my local area. I think I'll talk with him about a full custom job.
By the time I get something like the MDT timber Frontier on the rifle, it'll be the better part of 3K when all's said & done. I reckon I could have exactly what I want in a custom job for that or less.
I have a HNT26 in hand and waiting but no CDG to drop into it.
It looks like the trigger hangar should clear, but don't know for sure until the action is here.
Keep us posted, that’s high on the list of options for my build as well.
Mine should be getting built but my damn buddy loaned out his .223 AI reamer and can’t remember who’s got it. so he shaving to ask around lol.I'd love to start seeing some videos of the action being run. Any idea how many are actually out in the wild?
Also the Boyd's stock I have sitting around doesn't have enough comb hight adjustment.
Yeah, me too. Guess not too many happy enough with them.I'd love to start seeing some videos of the action being run. Any idea how many are actually out in the wild?
Also the Boyd's stock I have sitting around doesn't have enough comb hight adjustment.
The Foundations are fairly heavy I thought.i wanted wood, could not find one i liked, so i ordered a foundation
Yes right.
These should work for covers. I keep contemplating an MDT ESS with their grips, stocks and rail covers but i feel it would get too heavy for a hunting rifle.
Just looking at that stock, is that a trigger finger shelf right behind the trigger guard?honestly, if the grip was wood, maybe
The Foundations are fairly heavy I thought.
so they plan on finishing the day 1 orders by then? or all the other actions sold before the rh longs?I just got off the phone with Bella at ARC.
July is more like it for the RH Long Actions.
Leftys (SA) are AFTER the RH LAs - there IS a God.
I just got off the phone with Bella at ARC.
July is more like it for the RH Long Actions.
Leftys (SA) are AFTER the RH LAs - there IS a God.
I just got off the phone with Bella at ARC.
July is more like it for the RH Long Actions.
Leftys (SA) are AFTER the RH LAs - there IS a God.
I remember hearing about a wood shortage up in Canadia…Hardwood ply must be hell expensive in Canada.
Maybe they should stop setting it on fire.I remember hearing about a wood shortage up in Canadia…
Happy I got my Archimedes when I did. Love it.Archimedes has disappeared from their website. I've been on edge to get an Archimedes, but it looks like they are discontinued.
Why, are they all soft cocks?I remember hearing about a wood shortage up in Canadia…
I remember hearing about a wood shortage up in Canadia…
No, just cold.Why, are they all soft cocks?
Well some pages earlier there was someone that tried and said he couldn’t, but nobody saying it does yet...... anyway....
Any reports on if the bolt binds easy? I'd like to think the larger dia bolt body would help with binding.
For me, bolt binding has been one of those issues that always seems to be worse when I'm not actually shooting...... anyway....
Any reports on if the bolt binds easy? I'd like to think the larger dia bolt body would help with binding.
My view at the moment.
We get these feathered fellows come to see what's for breakfast, lunch & dinner.
Cronulla, Sydney.
Take with a grain of salt since I'm an ARC whore. I don't have anything else to compare accept a rem 700, Tika, & a Steyr. I've shot others, but not more than a few rounds. None of them made me question the ARC's in my stable. Coincidentally the Steyr like CDG is a 3 lug with 6 o-clock lug & true double stack mag...... anyway....
Any reports on if the bolt binds easy? I'd like to think the larger dia bolt body would help with binding.
Excellent.Take with a grain of salt since I'm an ARC whore. I don't have anything else to compare accept a rem 700, Tika, & a Steyr. I've shot others, but not more than a few rounds. None of them made me question the ARC's in my stable. Coincidentally the Steyr like CDG is a 3 lug with 6 o-clock lug & true double stack mag.
I've shot One match with the CDG so far without a hitch. Only thing annoying was it was launching 20%+ of my RWS brass forward in front of firing line. Couldn't retrieve till after the match.
Shot matches with ARC SA, M7, Archimedes, Nuke 1.2, & CDG. None of them have had any binding issue running fast under stress. Of the 4 I obviously have the least amount of time on the CDG (308W 2 stage Huber 1.5#), but it was great. For the Archimedes (6GT TT single stage 12oz) I have to tell myself to slow down. The jury's still out for me, but the Archimedes is really fast/smooth. The CDG is in 308W with a 2 stage trigger so it kind of encourages me to slow it down a little. Not a fair comparison due to caliber/trigger difference. Bolt cycle feels at least equal to the Archimedes.
The Nuke V2 in 223 is super slick, going to have to be mindful to moderate tempo with it also.
Of the 4 actions actually 5 mentioned above the CDG has the least amount of bolt slop with the bolt fully open. I think the clearance is close to the same. The biggest reduction to slop is probably the extended rear support added to the CDG. It's significant. Bolt diameter contributes as well, but to a lesser extent. Make sure to add some lube in the large ejector slot on the bolt body.
You can make anything bind & the only way it wants to bind is if you try pulling the bolt nob off while pushing forward. Of the ARC actions the CDG & Archimedes are least prone to binding & CDG has least amount of bolt slop.
I honestly can't say I've got a favorite ARC action at this point. I like them all & have used the same 2 ARC mags for 3 years. Knock on wood, not a single feed malfunction yet. Digging the ease of loading the AW's for the CDG. Ran the modded 14rd AW for the whole match. I will say this has 1 noticeable advantage over all other ARC actions for comps. The match director got creative & had a prone stage where you had to get up & take a few steps back to retrieve a single round from a box followed by top loading only, rinse repeat x 10. I got one of the top scores on that stage & I give credit to the huge ejection port + it almost impossible to screw up single feeding the CDG over an AW. A lot of popular actions shooting those puny cartridges were struggling with that stage (AI/AW style mags weren't).
For $899 it's a hell of a value. @karagias - Ted you hit a grand slam with this. I think there is an interesting story behind the scenes regarding lean manufacturing. I'd love to here more about that from ARC but they may not want to clue in their competition.
Excellent write up!Take with a grain of salt since I'm an ARC whore. I don't have anything else to compare accept a rem 700, Tika, & a Steyr. I've shot others, but not more than a few rounds. None of them made me question the ARC's in my stable. Coincidentally the Steyr like CDG is a 3 lug with 6 o-clock lug & true double stack mag.
I've shot One match with the CDG so far without a hitch. Only thing annoying was it was launching 20%+ of my RWS brass forward in front of firing line. Couldn't retrieve till after the match.
Shot matches with ARC SA, M7, Archimedes, Nuke 1.2, & CDG. None of them have had any binding issue running fast under stress. Of the 4 I obviously have the least amount of time on the CDG (308W 2 stage Huber 1.5#), but it was great. For the Archimedes (6GT TT single stage 12oz) I have to tell myself to slow down. The jury's still out for me, but the Archimedes is really fast/smooth. The CDG is in 308W with a 2 stage trigger so it kind of encourages me to slow it down a little. Not a fair comparison due to caliber/trigger difference. Bolt cycle feels at least equal to the Archimedes.
The Nuke V2 in 223 is super slick, going to have to be mindful to moderate tempo with it also.
Of the 4 actions actually 5 mentioned above the CDG has the least amount of bolt slop with the bolt fully open. I think the clearance is close to the same. The biggest reduction to slop is probably the extended rear support added to the CDG. It's significant. Bolt diameter contributes as well, but to a lesser extent. Make sure to add some lube in the large ejector slot on the bolt body.
You can make anything bind & the only way it wants to bind is if you try pulling the bolt nob off while pushing forward. Of the ARC actions the CDG & Archimedes are least prone to binding & CDG has least amount of bolt slop.
I honestly can't say I've got a favorite ARC action at this point. I like them all & have used the same 2 ARC mags for 3 years. Knock on wood, not a single feed malfunction yet. Digging the ease of loading the AW's for the CDG. Ran the modded 14rd AW for the whole match. I will say this has 1 noticeable advantage over all other ARC actions for comps. The match director got creative & had a prone stage where you had to get up & take a few steps back to retrieve a single round from a box followed by top loading only, rinse repeat x 10. I got one of the top scores on that stage & I give credit to the huge ejection port + it almost impossible to screw up single feeding the CDG over an AW. A lot of popular actions shooting those puny cartridges were struggling with that stage (AI/AW style mags weren't).
For $899 it's a hell of a value. @karagias - Ted you hit a grand slam with this. I think there is an interesting story behind the scenes regarding lean manufacturing. I'd love to here more about that from ARC but they may not want to clue in their competition.
That fella in the photo has been turning up 4 or 5 times a day to see what's on offer. He or she, started bringing another couple around to our balcony after a while. They weren't tame at all but they showed very little fear, maybe some mild caution. We could feed them from our hands & none of them seemed overly uncomfortable.Since you're posting bird pics, how about some pics of the majestic bin chicken in its natural habitat?
I've got a friend that breeds, raises, and sells parrots; his family has about 300 pairs of african greys, amazons, umbrella cockatoos, sulfur crested cockatoos, scarlet macaws, etc. They are a full time job and the levels of noise and non stop mischief the birds get up to is impressive... I bet having a large wild population of cockatoos around is pretty entertaining (or annoying if they say decide to keep biting and removing the weatherstripping on your car over and over, lol)
Excellent news more beta testers to finalize the product for Gods chosen ones .....us leftys.I just got off the phone with Bella at ARC.
July is more like it for the RH Long Actions.
Leftys (SA) are AFTER the RH LAs - there IS a God.
Following up on the above.Has anyone bore scoped or removed a fired barrel? I now have ~120 rounds on my 22GT and it appears the coned breach is quite pitted from bullet tips. I’ll need to remove the barrel to take a closer look.