Precisely. Hope they don't figure out the population needs a booster shot every year.
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Pfizer and BioNTech Announce an Agreement with U.S. Government for up to 600 Million Doses of mRNA-based Vaccine Candidate Against SARS-CoV-2
U.S. government placed an initial order of 100 million doses for $1.95 billion and can acquire up to 500 million additional doses Americans to receive the vaccine for free consistent with U.S. government’s commitment for free access for COVID-19 vaccines Pfizer and BioNTech remain on track to...
No. Hell no!
It would probably be easier just to have those that don't want to get vaccinated be required to get a golden star tattoo
It's not that they forget, it's they haven't been properly educated. My stepdaughter got a rude awakening when she found out about the Holocaust, here at home because they weren't teaching it at school.
When she did go to school and wanted to discuss it she was told that some of those things did not happen ... teachers got a rude awakening when it was proven that they were lying
The problem we have is that most don't have the strong backbone that my family does. So, the teachers don't get corrected oh, the administration doesn't get corrected so the curriculum doesn't get corrected.
Stepdaughter had a real hard time understanding why they aren't teaching facts and truth about history. Unfortunately, she went back to live with her dad and now is extremely liberal. She had a real hard time accepting truth, liability, ownership Etc. Very sad because I had a lot of Hope for that girl at one time
It’s never a good idea to buy a brand new model car the first year it comes out, because it almost always has problems that the manufacturer didn’t foresee because it hasn’t been tested by the consumer.
That is how I personally feel about a Covid vaccine. They say it’s all good in clinical trials, but with every human body being slightly different, only time will tell when they start giving it to the masses.
The vaccine was also a rush job and done in a panic, so that certainly doesn’t help it’s cause.
I would never buy a new model car the first year it comes out, so I’m not going to get a vaccine the first year it comes out either. But one thing is for sure, whoever can produce a lot of it will be stupid rich.
That is how I personally feel about a Covid vaccine. They say it’s all good in clinical trials, but with every human body being slightly different, only time will tell when they start giving it to the masses.
The vaccine was also a rush job and done in a panic, so that certainly doesn’t help it’s cause.
I would never buy a new model car the first year it comes out, so I’m not going to get a vaccine the first year it comes out either. But one thing is for sure, whoever can produce a lot of it will be stupid rich.
So....this shit, is no different than the F'n Flu? IF we are going to be made, to take a vaccine, that's going to give us "Covid like" symptoms, just like the F'n flu shot, gives you "flu like" symptoms, then why can't we just get this shit and build our own immunities to it, just like we do with the flu??
Sounds like destroying the Nations economy, was .govs. main goal with these F'n lock-downs. WtF?? Mac
because they can't sell it to you for $50-75 like the flu shot every year.
that vaccine btw reduces your chances of having to see your doctor by 19-60% (if you trust cdc numbers), but not from getting sick at all.
and don't kid yourself about it being "free" cause if you pay taxes, you will be paying for it.
I had a hard time in college being a republican. All my fellow students loved the idea of socialism and our professors encouraged it. I was very outspoken against it being that my mother and my grandparents suffered tremendously under the Castro regime in Cuba. They applied to come to the U.S.A. during the free flights and were able to come only after my grandfather was thrown into a labor camp for 8 years. Many years later I became a teacher and was reprimanded by administration for telling a student that communism was horrible. They wanted me to apologize to the parents. I refused to and quit the next day.
good for you!
Not to worry, president Harris will stomp this Covid into oblivion in 6 months!So....this shit, is no different than the F'n Flu? IF we are going to be made, to take a vaccine, that's going to give us "Covid like" symptoms, just like the F'n flu shot, gives you "flu like" symptoms, then why can't we just get this shit and build our own immunities to it, just like we do with the flu??
Sounds like destroying the Nations economy, was .govs. main goal with these F'n lock-downs. WtF?? Mac
The side effects are no worse than what people experience with flu & tetanus vaccines.
27 years of being a government guinea pig got me a weakened immune system that requires weekly infusions. Probably an anthrax jab in 2000 that has been linked to a bad batch. I'm thinking no to another vaccine.
gates and fauci are in the “there are too many people on earth” club. they are invested in addressing that. they also have their fingers all over in this shit.
i aint scared of the disease that is so horrible, that you have to take a test to know whether or not you have it. and i’ll be damned if i take a vaccine for it. and if it does get me? the upside is i dont have to watch the stupidity continue and i can finally stop hearing about it.
fuck this whole fucking hoax and fuck the idjits buying into it.
i aint scared of the disease that is so horrible, that you have to take a test to know whether or not you have it. and i’ll be damned if i take a vaccine for it. and if it does get me? the upside is i dont have to watch the stupidity continue and i can finally stop hearing about it.
fuck this whole fucking hoax and fuck the idjits buying into it.
I'm thinking that we do not share the same definition of "rational conversation"
Willing to be convinced otherwise, though. SARS-CoV-2 would be a pretty shitty attempt at population reduction given IFR appears to be in the 0.25% range and the average age of COVID death in the United States is north of 70 years old.
Who needs WebMD when you have SnipersHide!
Population reduction through vaccination is their subject matter.
Some folks simply refuse to see the brilliance of mass vaccination against mostly harmless virus.
Its not making your immune system stronger, its making it weaker.
Your farm must be amazingly productive. Sadly the rest of us are forced to trust them.
cococovid is getting old
I used to work in medical equipment manufacturing. We were FDA approved. All our literature said we were to maintain a high level of cleanliness and yet we had dogs in our offices everyday except when the FDA would come.
Were dogs on the production floor?
Yes
Typhoid was worse than tetanus for me.
Mefloquine: Mandatory, even if the doctor says he shouldnt do it
Anthrax: XXX? Times. I dont even know anymore
Small pox: Because why not
Yellow Fever Vaccine: Keep em coming
Typhoid Vaccine: Ohh, im not fucked up enough? Yes please.
Fuck man.... Maybe I got the Joe Biden treatment. Cant wait till im 70+ licking the walls, asking why grandma smells like sidewalk.
From time-to-time I ponder how much different (Clearly, deeper, fuller) we'd think and act if we weren't subjected to all this. Fuck it.
Carcinogenic studies are conducted during research. I know of several drugs that were “killed” because they were carcinogenic. Name one that was approved knowing cancer was a side effect.
I went from manufacturing where I’ve have an auditor who literally makes his living finding mistakes in my work....find NOTHING so he says “can you make this 8 look more like an 8” I just laughed in his face and went to lunch. Poor manager had to bend to his will and write the “operations personnel not present, make a new “8” sign and date.
Now I work Research. My lab is disgusting. Full of filthy Indians (dots) no aseptic technique and we helped w this vaccine. We rushed every step. Verified the bare minimum. Sent to trials. Good luck out there. There’s a REAL REASON healthcare workers are ~34% committed at getting it. I said I would. But I won’t. So maybe that number is lower.
P.S. I have an antibody test and I have already had it. We bank our own blood, my samples in Nov are clean. Feb and on are not. College went to China in Dec. figure it out.
Look at all my posts. I’m a real dude.
Why did we do this when we know it’s survivable.
Oh and before you ask, NO ONE was interested in the antibody test. Well not the people who make the decisions. This is about grabbing as much cash for the lab as we can somwe can continue our research later.
Get fucked. We all know it’s about money.
No, I won’t answer your fucking questions unless it’s @TheGerman and he sends a blank check first. I NEED to get back to cancer research. This fucktastrophy is cutting into a seriously needed breast cancer vaccine that was supposed to go into clinical trials soon.
Im fucking upset. At least no one has died from the flu right?
Rant/
Carbon 11 to treat prostate cancer. Manufacturing exposed us to irritated air we inhaled. 11 min half life forces many to exposure from manufacting to delivery. They tried to hide it for 3 years. I refused to enter the hot cell once we secured it.
I also got shot at overseas. It’s not about saving the lives of the expendable. It’s about making money.
I have seen this. Had a vet try to take his service dog into my LAFW clean room. Fuck your veteran status from one vet to another.
I did a lot of the clean room work until he created a FAR and the Directors lost money on a FDG recall.
Spilling all the secretes today aren’t we.
Don’t get me started on “arts and crafts” when the printers breaks but the copier works.
FDA is there to make stupid fat Americans feel good about their insulin as they woof down a big gulp in their F250 lowered w side steps on their way to shop for new suspenders.
Manufacturing risks has nothing to do with potential side effects of a drug taken. As the person I replied to indicated the fda approves drugs knowing they cause cancer as a side effect when taken. Which is simply not true. Manufacturing is a whole different ballgame not included in the lists of side effects.
I manufactured the drugs. I can stick whatever i want in there as long as my QC sample passes.
Look up why Excedrin was selling on eBay for big money and had to be recalled.
Some men want to see the world burn. It’s fucking EASY when you are the man behind the curtain.
C11 exposes EVERYONE to ionizing radiation. Patient had their prostate cancer shrunk but then developed lung cancer patient had their prostate cancer shrunk but then developed lung cancer.
But you clearly know more than me. Thank you for your enlightenment. I bet you tell people with depression and just think about something different
Im salty today. Bring it. Pussy
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I worked in pharceutical research for 15 years, so yeah, I know a it about this topic. First in bioanalytical chemistry, then formulation development, and finally clinical pharmacology.
As for putting whatever you want in there, as you indicated. That depends. If you change any of the excipients you have to redo your toxicology studies.
As for Excedrin, that’s OTC. Different submission process. Covid-19 Vaccines and other NCEs go through a different submission process.
That was discovered after its approval, not during. Big difference.
I’m not saying that pharmaceutical companies and the fda aren’t infallible. I saw plenty of shit during my research days. I was just simply stating the fda would not approve a drug knowing it causes cancer. There are two side effects that will immediately kill a drug. Carcinogenic, and or teratogenic (birth defects).
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Was it? Isn't that interesting. You mean, after they had made untold millions on a magic pill that gave folks esophageal cancer. Isnt that unfortunate.
Would you like me to name a few more? There's a new one on a commercial for class action every day. Surprisingly, all these meds have been in the pharma stream quite a while.
Known links to heart problems?
Renal failure?
How far you want me to dig?
Oh wait, you were in this for 15 years right?
Known links to heart problems?
Renal failure?
How far you want me to dig?
Oh wait, you were in this for 15 years right?
It’s unfortunate, yes, but again the drug would never have been approved if it was found to be carcinogenic. I know it makes for great conspiracy. Believe what you want. I have seen plenty of drugs in my day get killed because they were found to cause cancer. Some very promising drugs, too.
The point made was regarding cancer, not what you mentioned above. Again, I’m not defending the industry, but saying things like “fda approves drugs with side effects like cancer”, is simply not true.
There are a variety of drugs that can cause renal issues. That’s well known. Had toe fungus recently? Oral meds for toe fungus can cause renal issues.
One major study all drugs have to undergo is called renal/hepatic. The purpose is to asses the impact on the kidneys and liver. Which can have an impact on the drug’s indications.
Lasix, for example, can cause renal issues. Do you want Lasix pulled from the market?
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My mother had kidney failure after taking a blood pressure drug. She was on dialysis 4-5 years till she died. She swore it was the BP meds that did it. Never had kidney problems before that.
Saying the industry does its job with drug testing is the same as saying that there is no systemic racism. They're both true. It isn't the system that is bad, it is the people in the system. You can have all the rules and laws in place, but it's the people in the positions that matter that get in the way of those laws. All it takes is one judge who doesn't give two shits if Jamal has a rock solid alibi, or one inspector who could care less about a prolapsed asshole or two with your new hemorrhoid medication, as long as he gets his bonus. That's when the fudging happens. Rules and laws don't mean shit if there's no integrity or morals attached to them, and those are in short supply these days. When you start throwing in "the greater good", what's a loss of 10,000 lives in order to save 1,000,000? Go ahead and tell me there aren't those people in the positions that matter.
The only side effect that vaccine will have will be exposing everyone’s vaginas.
The pharma industry is not in short supply of shady fucks, that’s for sure. I saw and worked with plenty. Big part of why I got out of the industry.
I'm glad you said it.
I never said the industry was perfect. Just simply debated a statement that was made.
