I’d ask if it was your wife. But seeing as you post nudes to a forum of dudes , Il just assume it’s your sister
Don’t assume Dicken was the only person in there with a gun.
Maybe they didn’t want to get hassled by your co workers and or sued by the durka durka ?
Give them a paycheck, pension, and qualified immunity and maybe....oh wait, that still doesn't seem to encourage the nerve to save young children and innocent bystanders.
Lol you'd be surprised at the experience behind a weapon some of us have. I suppose it's better to expect citizens to perform under pressure than the police. That was your point, right?
Depending on your vintage, you and I have probably been to several of the same places.
No, you're not being objective, you're trying to be condescending. You're under some assumption that i have issues with cops. That's lazy, and an excuse. I come from a family of police (all since retired), and have great respect for them (my family who served). I also am not going to shut my mouth when i see a problem. The police on many occasions, have proven that they are under no obligation to put themselves in harms way to save people. That's fine. So don't be surprised when people would rather have their own around when bullets start flying. It's simple. Nobody expects police to be there when they actually need them. It's also not unknown that police, like every other hiring entity, have a shortage of qualified applicants. Meaning most of the people they get to apply, have no business with that much power over the public. You'd think with all the militarization and thin blue-line, us against them, "to protect and serve" slogan, punisher skull mentality, that they would be able to reach down and find their balls when people need them as well.
I agree with everything you’ve said except for your thoughts on my motivations here.
Fair enough. I've had to make extremely hard choices downrange. Ones that risked the lives of my marines and I to protect innocent individuals that weren't even from our country. So I have very little sympathy for police when it comes down to the same situations. I just wish we would start seeing civilians lives protected and held as high in regard as they do their police brethren. Hell, maybe I'm wrong, but optics are everything.
Rare cases. L O L
Good men don’t act because gov’t and the police that serve and protect it make it costly to do so and you know it. It’s punishable murder for a dad to kill off the sex predator you arrested and the judge let go. The revolving door of justice is a tool gov’t uses as an excuse to build up the surveillance/police state. If you guys weren’t around to point guns at good men, they would be able to protect their communities and rid their streets of the thugs you force them to live amongst.
Now imagine the enthusiasm of LEO when you live in a state where the Demonrats in charge passed a law making LEO personally liable for anything That goes wrong during police intervention. LEO literally has to assess prior to engagement if it is worth risking personal liability over.
I don’t spend my time scouring local news to find stories.
If you can find ANY REASON to not just stand outside of a building while children are being slaughtered, then you are a coward. You don't think I was liable downrange? Hell, in Sana'a I was told straight up if we couldn't 110% justify lethal action then we would be fried. I don't see how every one of those cops hasn't already done something to end their shame that any decent person would have. And that wasn't even in a democrat led state.
There is man in Houston who recently killed a man breaking into his neighbors home. He is waiting a grand jury to determine if he will be charged with murder. Even if not charged he spent thousands to lawyer up against a fucked up gov’t and its hitmen. LEO like @Skunk who think they are protectors instead of the oppressors they really are, have the nerve to point out the fact that men hesitate to act. Wonder why that is. How about a look in the mirror. The gov’t is not only corrupt but destructive. The men that serve it and worse yet carry a gun and threaten violence on its behalf have no moral grounds to stand. It’s disgusting.
Where did you come up with the evidince that this was his thought process? Most movie theaters are no firearm zones.
In the words of my scumbag hills have eyes neighbor , you’re talking out your ass
That’s real retarted sir
I suppose you’ve interviewed plenty of people present for active shooter events. I’ll defer to your expertise in the future.
www.gunfacts.info The fact that I have to recommend ANYONE (civilian) who carries a weapon, to also carry USCCA or similar insurance, is a statement of that. Innocent until proven guilty isn't for us. There's guilty until proven innocent for civilians, and innocent until(and frequently after)guilty for politicians and law enforcement. Unfortunately things like this don't get better, they eventually just reach a flash point. There are many case studies of foreign nations to prove this.
Ahh the old “you haven’t done the job you can’t come to a conclusion”
You want to debate “rare” with the possibility of 16.5%?
I agree. What I was referring to is a much to common attitude of LEO not to act (Uvalde, Broward County, Columbine School, etc…) and then pile on a personal liability clause to their jobs, they are even less likely to engage. Thieves in Colorado are literally asking where stuff is on the shelves (asking for employee assistance) and walking out with it merchandise without any repercussion. The morning after the Aurora theater shooting, I turned on the TV to start my morning and saw the reports (this happened 45 minutes from my home). My initial thought was, I wish I would have been there. It wouldn’t have happened to the extent that it did.
The evidence was brought forth from the Aurora movies theater shooter himself, and highlighted by John R. Lott Jr. In his acquisition of factual data on firearms in society. The shooter lived around 7 movie theaters in a 10 mile radius. He chose the 5th closest (IIRC) from his apartment, which also happened to be the only gun free zone theater in Aurora. Your comments are blatantly false, or ignorant.
Constitutional carry can and does thwart would be criminals everyday, but never gets reported. If a thug goes into a mall to shoot it up, and sees a dozen armed citizens and walks home like the coward he is, no one ever knows. It certainty does not end up in a database.
If there isn’t equal and blind enforcement of laws then there is only tyranny. Many officers know the gov’t they serve is not only corrupt but dangerous and harmful yet they suit up and put that gov’t issued gun on their hip everyday to protect and empower it. I can’t rationalize that mentality.
Sure.
It’s hard for the news media to sensationalize a story where a father of 3 in the local mall carried a pistol in defense of his family while Christmas shopping, and unknowingly deterred an active shooter from carrying out his intentions. Hell, I got bored typing it…And addition
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Absolutely. But until we can quantify that somehow, we can’t rely on CC to be the answer to active shooters.
You’re now talking a lot of what if’s…. Places where shootings might occur, etc.
Ahh, gotcha. I agreed with what you said, just misinterpreted what your point was. My apologies.
Who is? You won’t find me trying.But if we can quantify that an armed society is a deterrent to criminals (in theory and common sense), then why are we deterring an armed society?
So i'm not misunderstanding you, are you saying there IS another answer to active shooters, or simply that we can't rely on anyone or anything to be the answer? I'm trying not to assume you are suggesting police are.
>>> See political theater.
No, I’m not suggesting another or any different answer. And definitely not suggesting police or armed Israeli-type troops everywhere.
Thats your proof... Because some jack ass said it you believe it.
We agree, which is why I asked. I don’t think anything direct will stop mass shootings. Maybe increase or reduce them in severity and frequency, but at this point they exist. I only rely on myself as a CCW holder to protect my wife and I and our pets. I am the first one on the scene after all. Those of us who have seen and traveled a little, have a view of the world that make it impossible to not notice how many soft targets are out there. My family just won’t be one of them.
Yes. Stop the importation. Export what is already here
