FixedGardening only provide a pile of potatoes and anything you can manage to can or pickle.MostA small minority of people have gardensandthough many of those have a decent assortment of vegetables they’ll keep and use during the winter
You’re absolutely correct….somemost of you stand no chance when your local Walmart closes
Emergeny fund or SHTF bag
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While I agree with that, I will say that a properly run large garden plot of vegetables can actually provide a decent amount of supplemental food for 1 family provided you don't have to eat it right then. You can easily harvest and then store enough tomatoes to keep you using them in foods and sauces all year. during the summer, other vegetables will provide the nutrients some of the other stuff provides. Carrots and things like that can easily be grown. If you know how to store and preserve stuff you'll get a lot of use out of a large garden plot, and of course tons of work and exercise.
You won't be living off it, but it can be an important part of your overall diet and make you have to trade / work for less than you otherwise would need to.
I guess it’s heavily dependent on area. Around here everyone seems to have one. We have one probably a 1/2 acre and another slightly larger. Potatoes for the whole winter. Onions for the winter. And obviously the assortment of cabbage, cucumbers, zucchini, squash, asparagus, tomatoes etc etc
Lots of people have large amounts of pumpkins, cabbage and sugar beats that they just feed to the deer
Many people can venison. You can literally have a stock pile of potatoes, onions and canned venison if you so choose and live off that. You’ll get bored of it but you can do it
Yeah, “most” people live in cities or suburban areas surrounding those cities. The vast majority of them don’t have gardens. Of those that do, even fewer are little more than herb gardens. A small row of corn and a similar row of peas would be the outlier pretty much anywhere outside of a rural or small town setting. We are going on 80 years removed from the days of victory gardens, and the populations and landscapes are vastly different.
I didn’t say everyone has to make it…..
Poor @BurtG is going to have to suck his way to survival
Shit give me a tent, lighter, .22 and a fish pole in a remote area around here and I’ll call that a vacation
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I've heard people say the same thing. That works great till you cross the wrong property line and get into someone's backyard that knows what they are doing, has the drive, will and skill to defend it. The odds are not in favor of the "attacker". The mobile ones have to think about how much they can carry and for how long. What are their odds for resupply? Probably low. Odds for injury and sickness? Probably high. Can you carry enough food, water and ammunition to sustain yourself for a reasonable amount of time?
Odds are you will run across the wrong backwoods hillbilly or Cajun with a pet gator named Buba (Buba was awesome until they relocated him, I miss him) and it would not be pretty.
There are multiple scenarios, short, mid and long term. Long term would be catastrophic imo.
Short I would see something like what Canada did with shutting off access to bank accounts. Weeks
Mid loss of services, minimal rule of law in large population centers that would be constrained to the upper class leaders. Everyone else left to fend for themselves. Months
Long- total collapse, no rule of law. Fend for yourselves.
There was a time in Louisiana that some of the since deceased old timers would talk about and that was when they used to tell stories about seeing deer. At one point in time the land had been stripped pretty bare and wild game was basically non-existent. With people not knowing how to preserve and conserve how long do you think we can go before we reach that critical mass and wipe out our supply? We only currently meet our capacity needs through modern farming techniques and without that things will get spicy.
Just adding on
Worried about being looted after a few days
Stop prepping and put that towards a mortgage in better neighborhood
People go on vacation for a week at a time all day everyday, house is still there when they get home
Why not. If roads get fubar , vehicles all dead by EMP etc you just gonna live at cabelas. Il get home by foot or whatever or die trying
Some days I think you’re retarded
Nice neighborhoods evacuate for floods hurricanes etc.
When people go on vacations their neighbors police etc don’t all leave too. Smart people have their neighbors watch over or house sitters etc
You get all sorts in any neighborhood. When I was a kid and they tried to force evacuate my neighborhood a group of us stayed to try and fight the fire. I was small so they could throw me up on the wood shake roofs to hose them down. The fear was that if one house went we would loose the entire neighborhood. The fire department from PA was lost and didn't arrive until around the 10 hour mark after the fire hit our little town. By that time things had died down considerably. So out of about 30 or so families about 4 or five stayed to fight and protect the neighborhood. This was the 1985 Wheeler Fire set by a disgruntled forestry service employee that killed himself afterwards if I remember correctly.
Like I said good luck with what a garden provides unless you also have a pile of shelf stable protein around.Gardening only provide a pile of potatoes and anything you can manage to can or pickle. Most people have gardens and many have a decent assortment of vegetables they’ll keep and use during the winter. Among the stuff that gets used in late summer and during the fall that doesn’t keep well
You’re absolutely correct….some of you stand no chance when your local Walmart closes
Po tay toes and green beans aren’t going to sustain you
Lol I’ve always got a few cans of linked apit and depending on the marketing that year a couple hundred thousand bushel of corn soy wheat barley. Think Il be fine not doing gay things
Just giving ya shit bud. There is however a lot of people who aren’t prepared for anything. They flip out and the world collapses when their phone dies.
Your deer on foot are all dead hope you canned a lot lolKeep reading sunshine
It’s in there
Like how a garden now includes wild game lol
annnnd ..... deersniper is back just under a different name..again
frank dropped you but you keep making new accounts, how many times is that now 3-4 times?
just cant give it up, huh
was pretty obvious after your mandatory racist posts a little while ago
not sure where you live but last hurricane i left my house because my inlaws had power close by, my neighbors stayed with their genset the 8 days it was out..not every one leaves the area
If something with the ability to wipe out every game animal here hits us I don’t think I’ll be around to worry about it….
You'd be amazed at how fast pretty much every animal would be gone in a situation where the food from the farms stopped rolling in.
Any lawman trying to stop hungry folks feeding their families would probably meet the same fate as the animals in short order.
Pet dogs and cats need to be fed as well...
You don't want them to starve and they need meat.
And if your family is is hungry enough, nobody is going to ask what meat is in the spaghetti sauce or where it came from.
Not exactly what I meant . My meaning was more to you're not just walking for a day or so without some things aka get home bag .
Speaking of eggs, I noticed they're $3.32 per dozen at WallyWorld. $4.69 for big brown free range raised..
We'll do that ourselves. People need to eat and many don't know anything about survival and preservation of food. They will consume and consume until there is nothing left and then be surprised about it.
There's a reason every state has a DNR and wild game is fairly abundant. Wild hogs will probably be close to being eliminated in a shtf scenario.
Hogs are smarter than deer and will easily become essentially completely nocturnal. Yeah, there’s folks with night vision rigs, but the day walking animals will be the first to perish…
Amazing what a little bit of corn and some cattle panels can do while you are not there
