expander die with Hornady lock'n'load bushings

[solst_ice]

I'm using a RCBS Supreme with the Hornady lock'n'load insert and equipped all my dies with a Hornady lock'n'load bushing for quick swapping.
I'm thinking about buying a expander die, either the Sinclair Gen II expander die or the 21st Century expander die . But I've got the impression, that there wouldn't be enough space on the die to put on the lock'n'load bushing and the lock-ring when the height of the die is setup accordingly as show here for the 21st century expander die or the Sinclair expander die .
Does someone use those with the hornady lock'n'load system?

 

[DrewC]

I use the Sinclair expander die with the lock’n’load bushings. Works perfect.

 

[solst_ice]

I use the Sinclair expander die with the lock’n’load bushings. Works perfect.

Ok, sounds good. Can you move the ramp all the way up ( as shown in the Sinclair video) or do you have to stop carefully before it hits the die to avoid any damage on the case mouth?

 

[DrewC]

Nah, there’s plenty of room for adjustment so you can set it and not worry about hitting the case mouth.

 

[shoot4fun]

I'm using a RCBS Supreme with the Hornady lock'n'load insert and equipped all my dies with a Hornady lock'n'load bushing for quick swapping.
I'm thinking about buying a expander die, either the Sinclair Gen II expander die or the 21st Century expander die . But I've got the impression, that there wouldn't be enough space on the die to put on the lock'n'load bushing and the lock-ring when the height of the die is setup accordingly as show here for the 21st century expander die or the Sinclair expander die .
Does someone use those with the hornady lock'n'load system?

I use the Sinclair expander die with the lock’n’load bushings. Works perfect.

Same here. I've used original and Get II Sinclair Expander Dies with Lock N' Load with a converted RCBS press for years. Works just fine.

 

[SL61]

May I ask you guys that are using the expander dies a question? Are you using a full length bushing die to resize the case and reduce the neck ID before using the expander die for final neck sizing? Or do use a different procedure? Thanks.

 

[shoot4fun]

May I ask you guys that are using the expander dies a question? Are you using a full length bushing die to resize the case and reduce the neck ID before using the expander die for final neck sizing? Or do use a different procedure? Thanks.

I do not use expander dies as part of the reloading process. I leave the expander ball in all my dies and lube inside of the necks with Imperial Dry Neck Lube. Expander mandrels are for neck turning process only here. Also, I don't neck turn for SAAMI chambers. I do turn Lapua 6BR and 6 Dasher brass but only a skim turn.
I also use the expander mandrel on new out of the box brass before I chamfer and debur.