Federal Law Enforcement Fails to do even a poor job

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If you believe CNN:"""From the time when the gun control measures of the Brady Act were enacted on March 1, 1994, through the end of 2008, the federal government processed more than 97 million applications for gun transfers or permits, the Justice Department says.

Almost 1.8 million applications were denied, the agency said."""

That is 1.8MILLION APPLICATIONS DENIED
How many resulted in arrests? For Example: There is a person standing in a Gun Store, filling out paper work, signing it, showing ID, and is turned down because they are a felon, drug user etc., am I wrong, this seems like the easiest arrest that could be made? Most Gun Stores even have CC TV, the chances are with all the paper work, signature, ID, finger print (in many cases) and Video, even Barney Fife could make an arrest, and his brother Drum could get a conviction. Have we seen the Federal prisons swell with the weight of even half these guys? NO, how about 1/10 (180,000) NO, how about 1%(18,000) NO. Why? Are the Federal Law Enforcement departments told not to enforce, or are they just lazy? How about local law enforcement, are they told not to enforce? I know our local cops arrest people on Federal Warrants all the time, I guess it may be sexier to arrest somone who robbed a bank in another state than to enforce the law that keeps felons from purchasing weapons. One million eight hundred thousand is a big number, it is a lot of anything. This drive for background checks by the anti gun/anti American useful idiots(as their leader Karl Marx would have called them) can't be to arrest and convict those that have lost their right to own firearms, they haven't ever enforced it in the past. We all know there is more to it than this. I called my Congressman's office and asked his office to send me a letter detailing why less than 1/10th of 1% of the 1,800,000 have
been arrested or convicted, what plans are there for the other 99.9+%? The so called "leaders of the Gun Right crowd, including the NRA's people" are wimps, they seem un able or unwilling to present the facts when I see them on TV. They seem to be of the "let's don't want to rock the boat" limp wristed school of thought types. Maybe we should start at home, ask our mayors and Chief's of Police, why these arrests aren't being made. Most DA's are elected, ask their office why they are getting the job done (if they have to run anytime in the next couple of years they may actually pay attention).
 
Is attempting to purchase a firearm- if you are not legally able to own one- a crime? I don't know the answer to that question. If not, then there would be no one to arrest.
 
Is trying to buy drugs a crime? Can i get arrested for trying to buy drugs? If its illegal for me to possess, then I would say that trying to buy it is a crime. But I'm not in charge, so what do I know?
 
It is illegal to attempt to possess a firearm if you have been forbidden to do so. It is also illegal to lie on the form. There is a lot (in my area) that get denied for lying about a protective order. We arrest for violations of state law with regards to the state form, not the federal.
 
Is attempting to purchase a firearm- if you are not legally able to own one- a crime? I don't know the answer to that question. If not, then there would be no one to arrest.
Yes it is, if you've ever purchased a firearm from a dealer, I hope you read the form. For a convicted felon to even try to purchase/get as a gift/pick up on the ground etc. a firearm is a felony.
Here is a quote of interest:
"""You can see there's uneven performance," Knox said. "The database is an incredible step forward, but we still have to figure out where the administrative and financial roadblocks are."

In 2009, the FBI ran 10.8 million background checks on potential gun buyers. About 150,000 people were rejected. Most had felony or domestic violence convictions, or a restraining order, on their records. Less than 2 percent were rejected because of a mental illness.""""
****When they say most, I believe that would be 50%+1 (at the very least) this would put 75,001 felons (at the very least) violating Federal Law, and having the Fed's fail to enforce the law, in just one year. Again, I must ask why are they so lazy, or are they being told by the boses not to enforce certain federal laws? There must be a reason the Fed LEO's are not doing the job they are being paid for.
 
If there is no consequence for prohibited persons attempting to buy a firearm, of course they will do so. Funny, if you fail to make car payments, the repo man cones 'round pretty quickly..consequence, so people mostly pay. If they didn't repo the car, damned few people would continue to pay. (Cept for the honorable ones). No wonder so many,people continue to try and buy firearms,when they shouldn't.

I think the reason there are no, or so few prosecutions is because the upper level people who,decide those things have determined it to be a low profile. I believe that more politicians find it more expedient to make new laws rather than to haul BATFE's director before congress every week or two and ask him why the hell he isn't enforcing the laws. Passing new laws rather than insisting on enforcement of existing laws is a feel good measure that really doesn't accomplish much.

It is already illegal to shoot people without justification, and there are enough gun laws on the books..enforcement Must be boring and expensive. All lousy reasons to not do what you are paid to do.
 
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Is attempting to purchase a firearm- if you are not legally able to own one- a crime? I don't know the answer to that question. If not, then there would be no one to arrest.

An individual attempting to purchase a firearm when prohibited is committing a number of state and federal violations. These are misdemeanors and/or felonies, depending on the individual circumstances and investigated in a handful of situations with 99%+ ignored by LE. These crimes are not important enough for the feds to even look at and the locals have their hands full with real crimes. I have seen some a few cases filed in Colorado but most are specifically ignored.