Garmin Xero C1 Pro chronograph

[Baron23]

Yes, seriously I was doing load development for a 375 Chi tech and I need to know my standard deviation of a string of 10 or 20 rounds if I delete one or two. And how else are you gonna figure it out without doing the calculations one way or another if the device fails to account for the change after the shot is deleted?

You were doing loading at the range so you needed SD right then and there?

I guess my reloading has never been so critical that I needed to do all that at the range. And at home, it’s easy peasy to me and not a “pain in the ass”

To each their own. Cheers

 

[Jingoist]

Custom attributes/fields would be a godsend, @Garmin. As it stands now, the only way to tell one load from the other is the use the one tiny note field. Super ghey.

I used to print out the cutesy table the app generated, would export to Excel, also, and print all of these data for the hard-copy 'load book' for each respective caliber; but I could grab any random bullet off the shelf, thumb to the reference number in the app, and find my 'recipe 'and start cooking in 45 seconds.

Here's the fields using my old $90 Pro CX or MX or whatever the hell it's called...literally storing 100s and 100s of loads in there (my Garmin is already 'full').

 

[Holliday]

You were doing loading at the range so you needed SD right then and there?

I guess my reloading has never been so critical that I needed to do all that at the range. And at home, it’s easy peasy to me and not a “pain in the ass”

To each their own. Cheers

There’s an old saying about one man’s pain in the ass, is another mans pleasure ….

 

[secondofangle2]

who wants to manually enter 18 velocities in XLS, when the device is perfectly capable of calculating SD properly?

I "seriously" don't understand the objections here

 

[Baron23]

who wants to manually enter 18 velocities in XLS, when the device is perfectly capable of calculating SD properly?

I "seriously" don't understand the objections here

Why are you manually enter anything? Perhaps you are not too familiar with Excel and csv files. The Garmin app outputs a csv file that you can email from your phone to your home PC/Laptop/whatever you have Excel on and open it directly with Excel. It will look just like an Excel file when opened and your data will all be there.

If you wish, then delete the shots you don't want and enter a formula like this to calculate the SD on the remaining data set: =STDEV.S(cell number of the beginning of the range:cell number of the end of the range). And of course, you don't need to manually enter the cell addresses, just click on them.

And F1 in Excel will bring up the Help function if you get stuck.

I can cut/paste the csv file data into a full Excel spreadsheet (I have Excel chrono files for my rifles with tabs for diff ammo), and add in forumulas for Avg, ES and SD in...well, a minute and and half...maybe two minutes tops.

As for objections....no, you can do it anyway you wish. We are all big boys and girls here and can do what we want (well, mostly lol).

But I don't think that, while SD should work after deleting some shots from a session, that its a big deal and its very easy to work around. But, that's me and of course doesn't have to be you.

Cheers

 

[carbonbased]

I do know that on 3.27, instead of deleting a shot, click on it and there’s an option to “ignore” it.

If you do that, the shot count reduces by one and the ES/SD calcs do change.

I guess I haven’t tested the deletion issue.

 

[carbonbased]

Wait a sec. I bet he’s talking about deleting a shot before ending a session. I haven’t tested that.

 

[Holliday]

who wants to manually enter 18 velocities in XLS, when the device is perfectly capable of calculating SD properly?

The Garmin app outputs a csv file that you can email from your phone to your home PC/Laptop/whatever you have Excel on and open it directly with Excel. It will look just like an Excel file when opened and your data will all be there.

Cheers

This is what I am wondering. I open edit and print in excel on my iPad……

 

[Holliday]

I would like to see a rounding option. No need for that extra data past the decimal point.

 

[vh20]

Yes, seriously I was doing load development for a 375 Chi tech and I need to know my standard deviation of a string of 10 or 20 rounds if I delete one or two. And how else are you gonna figure it out without doing the calculations one way or another if the device fails to account for the change after the shot is deleted?

If you were synched to the App, and deleted the shot in the App, it would have done it for you correctly. But you are correct about the unit. I was one of the first here to point out the error, and believe it or not, took a lot of flak for “whining”. All I did was say, “Hey, if you delete a shot from a string, it will recalculate the ES but not the SD.” Another member then clued me in that the App would do it correctly, and it did.

 

[vh20]

There was an old episode of the Twilight Zone. “To serve Man.” Basically aliens, (real outer space aliens) landed on earth and supposedly there to help human kind on Earth. They gave them a book, to translate.

Everyone was going on vacation to the alien planet as it seemed to be a big thing. Finally the skeptic scientist decided to go there. As he was boarding and could not get off, his assistant ran up and said they finally translated it, To Serve Man, was a cookbook.

I am the skeptic. I’ve used Garmin products for several decades now and always know, don’t buy Garmin early because they are famous for letting the customers do the beta testing. I warned all y’all, wait. No one listened. Dumped your Labradar’s like last nights whore.

Well the skeptic finally thought, it’s been a while, surely they got it right by now, so I pulled the trigger and got mine delivered last Wednesday. Sure enough, as soon as I get a Garmin, the complaints start piling in. Best thing, I’ve gone though two sessions, with no issues. (And not one dropped shot).

Dude, right out of the box on the original release the Garmin was SO much better than the LR it wasn’t even a fair comparison. It just worked, with no crutches like the LR needed (I ran a LR for 7 years). The problem only arose recently with a buggy update which it appears they fixed quickly.
Edit - everyone who dumped their LR “like last night’s whore” - I haven’t heard of any considering going back. Most of us still have them because they are worth next to nothing now because of the Garmin.