Sidearms & Scatterguns Glock 22 issue

[winniedonkey]

With the slide locked to the rear when I insert a magazine and it sends the slide forward. Grabbed my attention, fired one round and gun cycled 95% and had to give the slide a push forward a 1/4 inchish to have it fully forward. After that stopped, cleared the pistol and did the mag test again just to see if the slide being sent forward wasn't a fluke. Nope every time. Anyone deal with this?

 

[Downtown]

How old is this Glock? Both issues are usually caused by worn out springs. It's common for the slide to close when the magazine is inserted if the slide stop spring is worn. Failure to go into battery is caused by a very dirty gun or a worn recoil spring.

 

[winniedonkey]

It is a gen 3 with 2500ish rounds. Gun was clean. It has never been babied. Guess it need a tune up.

 

[DannC]

I have quite a few Glocks and several do this consistantly when a mag is inserted forcefully. Two do it occassionally and two never. In competition I find this to be beneficial when reloading from slide lock. It is very common with Glocks.

If it bothers you check that the slide lock spring is not bent or deformed and is under the the locking block pin. Also check if this is happening with only certain mags. The feed lips may be deformed.

 

[winniedonkey]

@DannC Good info. Thanks

 

[desertrat1979]

Not going into battery, if weapon is clean, recoil spring, about $8. Slide dropping on reload, worn slide lock spring. When they get really worn, the slide will even lock while shooting a loaded mag. Its a $6 part, it takes more time to break the weapon down than it does to swap the parts. This is the issue weapon for my agency, and I am an armorer here, so I see this a lot. Has the recoil gotten worse as well? Usually another indicator the spring is on its way out.

 

[strikeeagle1]

Virtually any semi-auto will advance the slide into battery IF one violently inserts a magazine into the firearm; read their respective firearm Owner Manual and it's mentioned. The slide lock device on most semi-auto's have a vertical face apposing a near vertical slide stop notch surface. The jarring incurred by the force of insertion allows the slide stop / release to momentarily disengage from its frictional contact with the slide notch; because the slide stop / release is spring powered downward, the slide stop/release mechanism immediately moves downward that then allows the the slide to move into battery under guide rod recoil spring power. The S&W M&P 2.0 has a patent pending mechanism that incorporates a spring loaded detent separate from the slide stop lever engagement AND requires the slide to move rearward about 5/32" before the slide stop engagement is powered downward by its separate spring. All others only to have the slide / slide stop lever engagement move a few thousandths of an inch to break frictional contact, thus allowing the slide to move forward due to forceful inertial loading of a magazine. This is Newton's First Law of Physics in action; a body (slide stop / release lever) at rest tends to stay at rest. This observed phenomenon has Nothing to Do with the health of a spring, i.e. a "tired" slide stop / release lever spring.

Violently inserting the magazine into the firearm sufficient to advance the battery forward is reason to respect the fact that the primary safety on any firearm is muzzle direction; always have that muzzle pointed safely when performing a reload.

Some manufacturers label the same slide stop / release part either as a " slide release" or as a "slide stop" yet they are performing the same function; especially with one-handed manipulations.

 

[hermosabeach]

Most of my glocks load when you insert a full magazine. Gen 2 & 3

It's a bonus and your training regiment should count on running the slide

 

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i would not rely on a slide that drops when you insert a mag to reliably strip a round from the mag...i have experienced this a number of times when my slide drops and failed to load a round.

if my slide falls, i always rack it to ensure im feeding a round.

in competition this isnt an issue.....but its not a habit i would get into if you carry sidearms defensively.

 

[strikeeagle1]

Regardless of slamming the magazine insertion or sling shotting the slide into battery the old adage is "see it load, know it's loaded". You have to be looking into the ejection port to watch the round chamber. More than one has stepped out from behind cover believing their firearm was ready to go......and it went Click not bang. It doesn't take anymore time to watch it than not.

 

[NineHotel]

My gen 2 G22 went back to Glock in GA for several updates, free of charge. You might contact them to see the status on your particular gun.

 

[winniedonkey]

My gen 2 G22 went back to Glock in GA for several updates, free of charge. You might contact them to see the status on your particular gun.

Thanks for the heads up. I'll give them a ring.

 

[perttime]

For slide not going into battery, I'd take a good look at the ammunition. Is it clean? Is the bullet on straight and at proper over all length? Is the case undamaged? etc.