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    Wife just told me her cousin (with whom we have no contact) has started a go fund me thing to adopt a kid. Her aunt has even sent the family a Facebook post asking that everyone contribute so she can have a grandkid. Seriously? WTF? Thankfully, my teenaged kids have their heads screwed on more tightly than her thirty-something fuckstick cousin and his retarded mother.

    If you can’t afford the kid, don’t have it, adopted, natural, stolen or whatever. This give me something for free attitude has just got to stop...and it clearly will only get worse.
     
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    Adoptions are one of the most expensive things a parent can decide to go through and the astronomical prices and paperwork is one of the great tragedies of our generation (IMO). Thousands (millions?) of kids will grow up in the system with no head start and no guidance to rely on. Sad. Very sad.

    Second pet peeve is the liberal media pushed idea kids are expensive to raise. If you are entirely selfish and want to spend $$$ only on yourself, then yes, you shouldn't have kids, but that's obvious and the easy out. Want a real challenge? Get in a relationship. Stay in it. Have kids. Soooo rewarding.

    Also, as we all tend to do, before jumping to conclusions, I didn't see anything about no father figure or lack of ability to raise a kid and Im not sure I would care if there wasn't (even tho I would obviously hope and pray for a solid home and heterosexual family). Even a sketch white trash home with microwave dinners and welfare is better than the streets 10/10.


    Everyone here complains about wanting to change the world. Some very wise words I cant remember who said at the moment...I am changing the world - one diaper at a time. Think about it...

    I get the OP pt of handouts. I hate that worse than anyone here. But if kids are involved...all bets are off.


    Rant over
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    Adoptions are one of the most expensive things a parent can decide to go through and the astronomical prices and paperwork is one of the great tragedies of our generation (IMO). Thousands (millions?) of kids will grow up in the system with no head start and no guidance to rely on. Sad. Very sad.
    Adoptions from foreign countries can be expensive but fostering/adopting from your own state is not expensive. There is assistance from local sources as well as the county social services helps you and pays a monthly stipend, even after the adoption is final. There is even a tax break available. My wife and I have been fostering/adopting for 5 years now and know all the ins and outs. Money from the kids get put into private/charter schools and kids are treated like they are our own.
     
    @AIAW, that last pic sadly looks a lot like her couain’s wife. Only reason I’d throw some money at the adoption would be to ensure that there’d be no spreading of the gene pool!
     
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    Adoptions from foreign countries can be expensive but fostering/adopting from your own state is not expensive. There is assistance from local sources as well as the county social services helps you and pays a monthly stipend, even after the adoption is final. There is even a tax break available. My wife and I have been fostering/adopting for 5 years now and know all the ins and outs. Money from the kids get put into private/charter schools and kids are treated like they are our own.
    I think it’s great what you’re doing and I’ve honestly got zeroissues with them wanting to adopt. My complaint is that they’re resorting to public funding to do it. I don’t know whether they’ve put the legwork into seeing what’s possible or not, but jumping straight to handouts smells of problems later. The family has gotten progressively dimmer as the generations have gone by so there’s a good chance we’re dealing with limited mental bandwidth here
     
    Some friends of mine couldn't have their own kids so have done the foster to adopt with 2 brothers, starting at ages 2 and 4.

    Lot of ups and downs through the court process (judge taking care of permanent removal of parental rights from mom was a tool).

    Now they have two boys who are thriving beyond belief in a great home life with two parents who love them more than those boys could ever imagine. Couldn't be happier for all of them.

    I always wanted to adopt. accidentally knocked up my ex, then she didn't want anymore kids and didn't want to adopt. Now with 3 kids (and the challenges of a blended family) I am not sure where the cards will fall on that. I guess the signs will point to where I am to be and what I am to do. Just got to keep asking.....

    And no, fund your own adoption. I am for a hand-up, not a handout. I will give anything for the kid, these kind of adoptions are about the parents, not the kids IMAO.
    Lots of ways to get a baby to adopt without spending a fortune. A family I grew up with adopted a ton of kids. Their youngest daughter is a social worker specializing in adoptions of kids from here in the states. In IA I believe.
     
    I think it’s great what you’re doing and I’ve honestly got zeroissues with them wanting to adopt. My complaint is that they’re resorting to public funding to do it. I don’t know whether they’ve put the legwork into seeing what’s possible or not, but jumping straight to handouts smells of problems later. The family has gotten progressively dimmer as the generations have gone by so there’s a good chance we’re dealing with limited mental bandwidth here

    Have to wonder if she will actually use the $$$ for an adoption or just disappear with the $$$$.
     
    Adoptions from foreign countries can be expensive but fostering/adopting from your own state is not expensive. There is assistance from local sources as well as the county social services helps you and pays a monthly stipend, even after the adoption is final. There is even a tax break available. My wife and I have been fostering/adopting for 5 years now and know all the ins and outs. Money from the kids get put into private/charter schools and kids are treated like they are our own.

    I'm guessing however they don't let single people adopt the kids they want.
    Otherwise it would be a great way to have all the benefits of having kids & a family without dealing with some female that will turn evil & ruin your life.
     
    Do you know how expensive adoptions are? I do, because I've done it. Everyone says just foster, it doesn't cost anything. True...but the foster system is a nightmare. The kids that you take in and love and provide for can be taken from you by the state at any time and given back to their lowlife parents. Most of the time if you foster, it's not a newborn, which is fine, but if you've never been a parent, having a 2-6 year old kid (who probably has emotional/behavioral issues because of the shit environment they have grown up in) thrown into your life can be too much to handle. I'm all for fostering. My wife and i plan to do it in the future, but fostering for the purpose of adoption isn't wise in my opinion.

    We can't have biological children. People who can just don't understand how much of a burden that is if you want to have a family. If you are fertile, you can pretty much plan when you're going to have a child. If you're not, you can't. If you're fertile, you are largely in control of the process. If you're not, you have to deal with the state(s), adoption agency, lawyers, and the birth mothers who may or may not be trying to game the system for a big payday. The whole process is stressful beyond belief. Not that having biological children isn't stressful, but at least you are in control of your own situation.

    Our adoption officially cost $38,000. But when you factor homestudy, application fees, travel expenses, etc. it was probably closer to $50,000. Sure, we got a $13,000 deduction on our taxes, but we also lost that much when we had an adoption fail because the birth mother changed her mind at the last minute.

    I don't like asking for handouts, but i gladly accepted money from close friends and family. I even let my wife organize some small fundraising events because guess what...some people actually WANT to help. Obviously you don't. That's fine, it's your prerogative. Maybe what you know about your wife's cousin affects your attitude towards the situation. But guess what, if that child ends up in foster care (which it will if it's not adopted) you're going to be paying for it anyway. Not just in foster care costs, but in in food stamps, medicare, social security, etc. because if that child isn't adopted, it is almost certain they are headed towards a life of government handouts through no fault of their own, but of a viscous cycle of failure, helplessness, and hopelessness aided by politicians who just want to buy votes with those handouts.

    Don't paint with such a broad stroke when it comes to adoption. It is absurdly expensive, complicated, and stressful. But it is the most rewarding thing i have ever done. That's why we're in the process of doing it again.

    My wife and i make good money. We are blessed far beyond what we deserve. That doesn't mean adoption isn't hard for us financially. It doesn't mean that we don't make sacrifices other people don't have to make. There are lots of couples out there that would make awesome parents and who would raise awesome kids, but they can't afford to adopt. I would encourage you and anyone else to support those people. If not directly, at least go shoot a guardian long range match.
     
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