I took my trigger off my Stevens .223 to bed and duracoat the rifle. I broke the sear bracket off while trying to re-install it. The bracket is a restricted part requiring a gun smith. The only gunsmith in my area is one that I have had a negative experience with in the past when he took 10 months to bed my rifle and everybody that looked at it said it was the worst beddomg job they had ever seen. So against my better judgement I took the gun to him and he said it would be two weeks or less to get it back. Yesterday was one month and I havn't heard back from him. So, I called this morning and he said he had ordered the part twice and had gotten the wrong part both times. If I wanted to get my gun I would have to pay for the part that he still doesn't have. My question is shouldn't he call and inform me about this when he said it would only be two weeks? Secondly I have since found a website that I can order the parts off of myself and do the job myself, which would only take 10 minutes. When he bedded the rifle he said it would be a month or two and it took 10 and now it's already been twice as long of a wait as he said and he still has done nothing to the gun. I don't feel like I owe him for the part because I am not even a gunsmith and I was able to find somewhere else to get the right part and have it in two days. I am going to Indiana next weekend and need the gun to shoot with my future brother-in-law who has a 600 yard range. If I wait on him it might be 4 years before I get the darn thing back, what should I do????
Gunsmithing Gunsmith question: Lee Thomas, Hernando Ms
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Pay him off, get your stuff, move on with your life, and remember the lesson the next time you are in a pinch.
Caveat Emptor. . .
C.
Pay him off, get your stuff, move on with your life, and remember the lesson the next time you are in a pinch.
Caveat Emptor. . .
C.
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you probably shouldn't have taken it to him again...lmao
but seriously... you could probably get a lawyer involved and get the gun back w/o paying him a dime, BUT that's gonna take time. If you need it back by next weekend, pay the guy, as much as it sucks, fix the gun yourself, and learn from the experience.
you probably shouldn't have taken it to him again...lmao
but seriously... you could probably get a lawyer involved and get the gun back w/o paying him a dime, BUT that's gonna take time. If you need it back by next weekend, pay the guy, as much as it sucks, fix the gun yourself, and learn from the experience.
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If you want to be nice about it, pay for the part and then never go back.
Shoot me a PM with your location, I can probably help you out on the part.
If you want to be nice about it, pay for the part and then never go back.
Shoot me a PM with your location, I can probably help you out on the part.
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List the crappers name an address after you get your stuff back. At least someone else will not experience the bung holes work.
List the crappers name an address after you get your stuff back. At least someone else will not experience the bung holes work.
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force_multiplier said:you probably shouldn't have taken it to him again...lmao
but seriously... you could probably get a lawyer involved and get the gun back w/o paying him a dime, BUT that's gonna take time. If you need it back by next weekend, pay the guy, as much as it sucks, fix the gun yourself, and learn from the experience. [/quote
When I called Savage they said it was restricted was the only reason I took it to him. The dude is Lee Thomas in Hernando Ms, just a few miles south of Memphis, for future reference. Here is a pic of the "bedding job", I have since learned to bed them myself by reading this site.
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If he takes credit cards, pay with it, get your gun and then dispute with credit card. Screwing goes both ways. I work too hard for my money just to sling it out the window. My parents taught me (and I learned) to be fair and honest, but like Sonny Barger says,"Treat me good and I'll treat you better, treat me bad and I'll treat you worse."
If he takes credit cards, pay with it, get your gun and then dispute with credit card. Screwing goes both ways. I work too hard for my money just to sling it out the window. My parents taught me (and I learned) to be fair and honest, but like Sonny Barger says,"Treat me good and I'll treat you better, treat me bad and I'll treat you worse."
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jsthntn247</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jsthntn247</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
force_multiplier said:you probably shouldn't have taken it to him again...lmao
but seriously... you could probably get a lawyer involved and get the gun back w/o paying him a dime, BUT that's gonna take time. If you need it back by next weekend, pay the guy, as much as it sucks, fix the gun yourself, and learn from the experience. [/quote
When I called Savage they said it was restricted was the only reason I took it to him. The dude is Lee Thomas in Hernando Ms, just a few miles south of Memphis, for future reference. Here is a pic of the "bedding job", I have since learned to bed them myself by reading this site.
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What the fuck? You paid for that? Sorry man, but I feel like smacking MYSELF in the face for you. Did your GS use any sort of bedding compound? Guess Oxygen is the next best thing to Marine Tex.
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Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, well.....
Thats on you...
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, well.....
Thats on you...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr. Phil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, well.....
Thats on you...</div></div>
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Looks to me like your impatience is going to cost you. For God's sake hope you have learned something
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dr. Phil</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, well.....
Thats on you...</div></div>
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Looks to me like your impatience is going to cost you. For God's sake hope you have learned something
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It was a few weeks before I took it apart and noticed this. I took it back to him and he did rebed it using arcaglass. The second time he bedded 4 inches in front of the lug including the barrel nut and the barrel. He also bedded the tang?? Again, I had no other way of getting the restricted part and he is the only certified gunsmith around. After this I went of Savage shooter and found out about Numrich and got the parts there today.
It was a few weeks before I took it apart and noticed this. I took it back to him and he did rebed it using arcaglass. The second time he bedded 4 inches in front of the lug including the barrel nut and the barrel. He also bedded the tang?? Again, I had no other way of getting the restricted part and he is the only certified gunsmith around. After this I went of Savage shooter and found out about Numrich and got the parts there today.
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Don't ever be afraid to send your gun to any of the smiths recommended here. They are top notch and each have a great following. Just because a guy is around the block don't make him good in some cases.
It took you 10 months to get it back the first time. If you sent it to any of the smiths here tops a month if delayed They would be upfront and tell you of a delay. Most parts just ask and someone here will find it for you.
Learning is the fun part.
Don't ever be afraid to send your gun to any of the smiths recommended here. They are top notch and each have a great following. Just because a guy is around the block don't make him good in some cases.
It took you 10 months to get it back the first time. If you sent it to any of the smiths here tops a month if delayed They would be upfront and tell you of a delay. Most parts just ask and someone here will find it for you.
Learning is the fun part.
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Paying or not is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. The Gunsmith in question can not hold your rifle in lieu of payment for a part that hasn't even come in and came in wrong prior. Take an LEO with you and collect your rifle, pay nothing.
Paying or not is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. The Gunsmith in question can not hold your rifle in lieu of payment for a part that hasn't even come in and came in wrong prior. Take an LEO with you and collect your rifle, pay nothing.
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You can order that part from Numrich or Brownells. It's only Savage that won't sell it to non-gunsmiths.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=138320A&catid=0
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=12868/Product/TRIGGER_BRACKET_ASSEMBLY
Get your gun back.
You can order that part from Numrich or Brownells. It's only Savage that won't sell it to non-gunsmiths.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=138320A&catid=0
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=12868/Product/TRIGGER_BRACKET_ASSEMBLY
Get your gun back.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paying or not is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. The Gunsmith in question can not hold your rifle in lieu of payment for a part that hasn't even come in and came in wrong prior. Take an LEO with you and collect your rifle, pay nothing. </div></div>
This. His actions amount to theft of property if he does not return your rifle upon request.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paying or not is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. The Gunsmith in question can not hold your rifle in lieu of payment for a part that hasn't even come in and came in wrong prior. Take an LEO with you and collect your rifle, pay nothing. </div></div>
This. His actions amount to theft of property if he does not return your rifle upon request.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paying or not is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. The Gunsmith in question can not hold your rifle in lieu of payment for a part that hasn't even come in and came in wrong prior. Take an LEO with you and collect your rifle, pay nothing. </div></div>
This. His actions amount to theft of property if he does not return your rifle upon request.</div></div>
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Unfortunately I haven't found a gunsmith local to Memphis that's worth dealing with. Tommy Bronson Sporting Goods has a gunsmith thats been holding onto my cousins muzzle loader for about 5 years now and still hasn't repaired it yet. Cousin could care less about the gun and it's something he could fix himself with a phone call and 15 minutes of replacing parts, but dude has screwed him in the past and it's one of those things where you just want to see how long it actually takes this guy to get his business done. If you need your gun, go get it and tell him you'll do it yourself since he doesn't have the time to take care of it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jr81452</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wnroscoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Paying or not is a civil matter, not a criminal matter. The Gunsmith in question can not hold your rifle in lieu of payment for a part that hasn't even come in and came in wrong prior. Take an LEO with you and collect your rifle, pay nothing. </div></div>
This. His actions amount to theft of property if he does not return your rifle upon request.</div></div>
+1
Unfortunately I haven't found a gunsmith local to Memphis that's worth dealing with. Tommy Bronson Sporting Goods has a gunsmith thats been holding onto my cousins muzzle loader for about 5 years now and still hasn't repaired it yet. Cousin could care less about the gun and it's something he could fix himself with a phone call and 15 minutes of replacing parts, but dude has screwed him in the past and it's one of those things where you just want to see how long it actually takes this guy to get his business done. If you need your gun, go get it and tell him you'll do it yourself since he doesn't have the time to take care of it.
