Ive got 1300 of the 140 hybrids that I run for matches. They're only pushing 2700 out of my 24" tikka ctr, I'd hate to see the speed with my load on a 17-18" tikka lol.
I have 122 Cayuga 6.5mm hunting bullets in stock.
How would that 122 preform any differently than a 130-140 berger hybrid target ?I have 122 Cayuga 6.5mm hunting bullets in stock.
I shot 4 whitetails with them this year from 170-515 yards, all 4 of them dropped within 20yd and 2 of them dropped in their tracks.
The bullets were used by a number of people this year to take everything from whitetails and javelina through black bear, elk and mule deer. Point blank to over 700 yards.
For a short barrel like you're talking about I think you need to look for something with some speed and use a field zero that allows you to hold dead on. With a 6.5 Creed I'm doing that for Coyotes and using a 265yd zero. That gives me point blank to 350yd without moving at all, if I hold on the back of the dog I get 400yd which gives me the extents of the areas I have to hunt them. This is done because with my thermal it's not feasible to change POI in the scope each shot.
I also have the sister bullet for match use that's 124gr
Same bullet from the tail to the bearing surface and pilot band, I don't change my load or even my seating die to switch between the two bullets.
@usmc45 if you like the way the Hammers perform I think you'll really like the Cayugas. Easy to load, good speed, but WAY better form factors for retained velocity at long range.
Much better weight retention and penetration. It will go through heavy bone and not disintegrate upon hitting it, and the BC is the same as the 130 hybrid so you get a big jump in speed with the same BC, therefore higher retained velocity downrange.
How much is your time or tag worth for a shot deer you miss or worse, don't recover?
I get ya, but "pennies" is actually about 50 pennies, per bullet over a berger 130 vld hunting bullet..
How much is your lost deer worth?
For liability reasons I will not give out my exact load. Different rifles, chambers, brass, etc.
They're 121.8x so they're 122's
What twist rate are you looking for? Long range or just a brush buster?
Probably a 14 twist to be honest, but I would suggest you get the usual 10tw that 375s are normally built on. That will give you all the capacity you need to shoot pretty much anything.
We are not seeing much for loaded ammo in Alaska. And I have been on the copper for animals I am going to eat. Few year back both of my young boys (only 2 kids at that time) both had elevated lead. Just under the we need to be concerned level. That years fall buck I shot with a 260 Rem 120gr nosler, recovered the slug was in the 65-75gr range was under the offside skin. For a while I was in the we have used lead bullets for hundred years with no issues. We did all kind of testing in our home to try and figure out where the lead came from, we never did. That's when I decided whats it going to hurt to move to copper for hunting.
I just bought 3 boxes of this the other nigh (they had 3 box limit) and yesterday OTM got in 130 6.5 Hybrid AR bullets and was able to snag 1000.
I shoot both 6.5 SAUM and 6.5 Creed and will be using them for moose, black bear and dall sheep. The 122's sound interesting, I need to pick some up. Heard from my smith build will be a 375 RUM with a 22' 12 twist. I am looking forward to the hunting bullets you come out with.
I usually tell people around 16-1700 unless you hit heavy bone, then closer to 1200.
