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View threadI've got the 1301 Patrol and its already pretty short. What I love is its so fast you cant out shoot it, I've tried. Really spits them out.Get a Beretta 1301 and cut the barrel flush with the mag tube.
Thought the 870 was a pump? M4 cost to much and the parts you want are hard to source, not dealing with all that BS.870 or a Benelli M4
Belt-fed 12 ga. is more gooder!I don't really know anything about shotguns but if I were going to have a semi-auto SBS, I think I'd want something that fed from a box magazine as opposed to a tube... That I assume is also going to be short AF now. No idea if someone makes a decent one of those or not.
Box mags and shotguns.. the mags are either HUGE, or, unreliable as hell. I get it but ehh I’d be looking for something that just used a conventional tube mag, if it held 5, 2 3/4” shells I’d be happy.I don't really know anything about shotguns but if I were going to have a semi-auto SBS, I think I'd want something that fed from a box magazine as opposed to a tube... That I assume is also going to be short AF now. No idea if someone makes a decent one of those or not.
Since that’s a gas operated shotgun, any idea how chopping down its barrel would affect it? Obviously dwell time is going to drop way off… this is why I’m asking I’m not sure what can be realistically used, like which models… also 1301 while epic, $$… maybe A300?Get a Beretta 1301 and cut the barrel flush with the mag tube.
Since that’s a gas operated shotgun, any idea how chopping down its barrel would affect it? Obviously dwell time is going to drop way off… this is why I’m asking I’m not sure what can be realistically used, like which models… also 1301 while epic, $$… maybe A300?
Affordable is pretty vague, leave a lot to interpretation.Thought the 870 was a pump? M4 cost to much and the parts you want are hard to source, not dealing with all that BS.
Fair, some of y’all make big money. Or are single with few things drawing on your income.Affordable is pretty vague, leave a lot to interpretation.
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FRT all the things too!Belt-fed 12 ga. is more gooder!
Sweeet Benelli... Howe many rounds in the tube, and is your stock the fixed version or the collapsible?
Did you see my budget lol, those are peak though.No Genesis Arms love?
I have a model 37, 20ga my grandpa put a deer slayer barrel on it (slug) but the receiver was the ultra featherlight, barrel is black but the receiver a deep bluing with ducks… but boy does she work!Everything that,.... Needs Done, via a sbs can be done very quickly with a 37 Ithaca, or side by side. Yes the Ithaca is a pump, but its a very fast pump.
I'd not get my hopes up, though,...
I didn’t know IWI made this! Oooo ima have to look one up and maybe save up.Tavor TS-12. 16 rds. of 00 Fuck You!! And no stamp, since it has an 18" barrel.
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I’ll look it upRem TAC-13.
Put a stock on it and you’re good to go.
I like the look of the aftershock a lot, not toooo far past what I was looking to spend… would just need a stock and some. So that’s a contender thanks for posting.I like the little sorta shotguns for this role. Just drop a stock on and done, no barrel cutting or anything like that.
Rem tac 13 was very nice, but seems like they are hard to find now for some reason.
Mossberg makes their pump ones, shockwave and a newer semi auto supposedly based on their 940 I think? It's called the aftershock and runs about 1000 , and gives you lots of stock options.
Iwi makes the mafteah now, but I'm not sure about a turnkey stock for it. About 1000 on those too.
The semi auto sorta shotguns are very cool since so much less recoil than pump versions. You can actually shoot them well and not be miserable.
Benelli m4 comes in a 14 inch version... I like it a lot but price is 2k plus.
Where it gets really interesting is if barrel length no longer matters, could see some cool new stuff come out. Shorter barrels and maybe a way to get more shells with a 10 inch barrel. Box mag, dual tube, tubes feeding from stock etc.
I have one. It's pretty sweet. You can load the tubes with different shells if you wanted. I have two tubes loaded with 00 buck and one tube with slugs. 15 rounds ready to rock n roll and very compact. I actually sold my benelli m4 after i got the IWI.I didn’t know IWI made this! Oooo ima have to look one up and maybe save up.
Time for their return:I still like SxS and would be a lot of fun.
I have one of these. Almost 300 rounds through it and not one malfunction. It's legit awesome. The Boss 25 I stick it in was only $50 more. And the really big rediculous looking stick mags with 3 sections have to be put together at home now, I couldn't find anybody who made them, and yes they are hard to make reliable. But they can be after you mess with them and tune them enough.Box mags and shotguns.. the mags are either HUGE, or, unreliable as hell. I get it but ehh I’d be looking for something that just used a conventional tube mag, if it held 5, 2 3/4” shells I’d be happy.
Oh man...this guy is just sitting in the safe...
Is that the John Wick shot gun with the dragons breath? LolFostech Origin 12 with 12" upper and 30 round drum is like holding a wood chipper in your hands. By the time you're done you get the same results.
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Like the title asks, what’s a affordable, reliable, not Turkey made semi auto shotgun for turning into a SBS if the bill passes with the short act still in tact?
Not to pour cold water on everyone's dreams, but as of this morning, the Parliamentarian removed both the HPA and SHORT act as being "not in compliance with the Byrd Rule." SHOCKER... I know. So the OBBB may pass, but without those two provisions. We'll see if she gets overridden either before the bill passes, or if it can be fixed in conference. Thune has already stated he won't fire or overrule the Parliamentarian, so we'll have to see.
Apparently they’re going to try to remove that witch for this.
Link?Well, surprise! They voted against it. None of went through! I bet that land grab did tho. JD Vance could have voted as well as a couple others but they did not. It’s all a game. You aren’t represented and haven’t been for I don’t even know how long.