I currently have a chargemaster and have been wanting an upgrade for awhile. Was going to go supertrickler but want to hold out to see how these go.
I’ll have to start from scratch as well.
I’ll have to start from scratch as well.
I need your manual powder measure if it drops 100 exactly to the kernel.If someone is on a budget, just drop the bulk charge manually for a while... you could use a $20 Lee Perfect Powder Measure if you don't already have a volumetric powder measure.
An A&D120FX ($600)+ IG Powder Measure ($400 with an extra disc or 2) + ~$100 in miscellaneous parts to make it work = ~$1100.
Starting with powder still in the jugs and nothing in the powder hoppers, even when dropping the bulk charge manually, powder for 100rds takes all of 10-15 minutes, every single one to the kernel, including emptying the powder back into the jugs when finished and cleaning up like it never happened.
It's awesome.
I need your manual powder measure if it drops 100 exactly to the kernel.
With both the autotrickler and the supertrickler, you have to configure the scale to sync with the software of the add-on device and I doubt this would be any different. If there were another way about it, the ST programmer, Peter, assuredly would have made it so you didn’t need to configure the scale and the fact that he didn’t makes me almost certain that the scale will need configured for the device.I guess a question I have Paul if your reading this is, with the new complete setup will there be any software/hardware changes within the scale that will need to change or is all of that built into the new powder dropper? Thanks again Paul..
I can read just fine. Thanks though. Your video is much clearer.Reading skills dude... human drops bulk charge, IP trickles up the last ~1.5gn (to the kernel every time in seconds, almost never goes over).
Anybody have a video showing how long it takes to change discs and set up for a new powder?
I’m about to jump ship from the ST if this thing is easy to use
I’m about to jump ship from the ST if this thing is easy to use
It does to the single kernel.The new standard has arrived.
If this works with n570 and RL50, the ST is going on eBay or in the garbage can
It really is hard to describe how good the IP is already for what we do. It's simple and works extremely well and when the whole system comes out it will be that much better with a keypad. Just fantastic set up that actually works as advertisedIt's hard to overstate the magic/brilliance of just spending a minute or two with a single analog-like slider to get it running perfectly, as compared to hours in menus dicking around with parameter after parameter and still getting too many overs.
Scale setting are the same.I guess a question I have Paul if your reading this is, with the new complete setup will there be any software/hardware changes within the scale that will need to change or is all of that built into the new powder dropper? Thanks again Paul..
Everything is already done. The new system works with multiple scales. You just select which one your using in the menu. I'm just showing that there are options now.Since you asked: I think focus on the FX 120 scale first and then add additional scales down the line. And I agree that some people will want to save money on the scale, but there will be massive pent up demand for your product from people who already have FX 120s and associated AT/STs
It does to the single kernel.
The new standard has arrived.
If this works with n570 and RL50, the ST is going on eBay or in the garbage can
Really trying for Dec or earlier.What kind of timeframe for release do you think?
If someone is on a budget, just drop the bulk charge manually for a while... you could use a $20 Lee Perfect Powder Measure if you don't already have a volumetric powder measure.
An A&D120FX ($600)+ IG Powder Measure ($400 with an extra disc or 2) + ~$100 in miscellaneous parts to make it work = ~$1100.
Starting with powder still in the jugs and nothing in the powder hoppers, even when dropping the bulk charge manually, powder for 100rds takes all of 10-15 minutes, every single one to the kernel, including emptying the powder back into the jugs when finished and cleaning up like it never happened.
It's awesome.
I hope earlier lolReally trying for Dec or earlier.
I run the IP trickler and V3 currently. My average drop time for 30gr of Varget is 5-6 seconds. Your not going to find a faster, more consistent system on the market. I’ve had them all. Even the top salesman for the Supertrickler @secondofangle2 is drooling over this setup.Sorry, but based on your own videos, your math doesnt work for how long it would take to drop powder for 100 rounds. Your video clearly shows that you can do 2 round in 30 seconds. So that is 15 seconds per round. (100 rounds * 15 seconds ) / 60 sec/min = 25 minutes for dropping powder. Then you have any additional time it takes for setup, teardown, and cleanup.
I'm not saying that this trickler is slow, but saying you can do 100 rounds in 10 minutes using a manual dropper and the IG trickler is just lying.
100 rounds in 10 minutes equates to a round every 6 seconds. I havent seen ANY system that is weighing charges that can do the kind of speed you are referring to. To be clear; I am talking about the complete cycle time it takes.
Sorry, but based on your own videos, your math doesnt work for how long it would take to drop powder for 100 rounds. Your video clearly shows that you can do 2 round in 30 seconds. So that is 15 seconds per round. (100 rounds * 15 seconds ) / 60 sec/min = 25 minutes for dropping powder. Then you have any additional time it takes for setup, teardown, and cleanup.
I'm not saying that this trickler is slow, but saying you can do 100 rounds in 10 minutes using a manual dropper and the IG trickler is just lying.
100 rounds in 10 minutes equates to a round every 6 seconds. I havent seen ANY system that is weighing charges that can do the kind of speed you are referring to. To be clear; I am talking about the complete cycle time it takes.
I run the IP trickler and V3 currently. My average drop time for 30gr of Varget is 5-6 seconds. Your not going to find a faster, more consistent system on the market. I’ve had them all. Even the top salesman for the Supertrickler @secondofangle2 is drooling over this setup.
It already works perfectly with a V3, many members here using it (incl. me). The only inconvenience I can see is the change to a different powder with the V3 thrower, it is a little pain in the butt to remove all kernels.Does it say somewhere where we can pre/order one of these?
The death knell of the ST is that vibrating tube. It’s more temp sensitive than Alliant powders and in winter I have to move inside from the garage else it needs constant adjustment as it heats up during operation
I will be moving to this IP if it works as advertised. May keep the ST for ball/flake powders (where it shines).
Yes, they should run just fine on the 705 disk for ball powders. Just because a certain powder is not on the list does not mean it will not work, it just means I didn't have access to test it for the list. I usually only add powders to the list if I personally have tested them.Paul,
Does your trickler work with Accurate 2230, or TAC? I dont see either listed on your website.
I use my IP with TAC a lot. Works outstanding. It will get exactly on the charge and basically do it every timePaul,
Does your trickler work with Accurate 2230, or TAC? I dont see either listed on your website.
Not after you use the IP for it. With the correct disk, it's ridiculously goodDoes it say somewhere where we can pre/order one of these?
The death knell of the ST is that vibrating tube. It’s more temp sensitive than Alliant powders and in winter I have to move inside from the garage else it needs constant adjustment as it heats up during operation
I will be moving to this IP if it works as advertised. May keep the ST for ball/flake powders (where it shines).
Not after you use the IP for it. With the correct disk, it's ridiculously good
I'm not sure about that one. The main dropper can and can be pretty accurate apparently on its own so that's probably the way to do it for that. I don't know if he has a disk for flake or not but @Ingenuity1 can answer that question I'm sure.Honest question, and I realize its not what most people would use it for, but can the trickler handle flake powders? Probably don't need the precision, but if its the only powder handling system one has...
The dropper will handle them to +/- .1gr or better by itself but the trickler cup will never be able to run them. The only two powders it will not run in the cup is flake and extremely small ball that's like powder moon dust.Honest question, and I realize its not what most people would use it for, but can the trickler handle flake powders? Probably don't need the precision, but if its the only powder handling system one has...
No, but a used chargemaster is a great first thrower option though. They are fairly accurate and are super easy to use and cheap.How do you know how long it takes to drop powder with a powder thrower but you don't have a powder thrower?
This probably isn't the setup for the first powder dispensing device a guy buys when getting into reloading. Pretty sure everybody reading this thread has got a thrower at home.
How do you know how long it takes to drop powder with a powder thrower but you don't have a powder thrower?
This probably isn't the setup for the first powder dispensing device a guy buys when getting into reloading. Pretty sure everybody reading this thread has got a thrower at home.
And that's why it irritated me. It's a useless question. It's not your only powder measure. No assumptions were made. We all knew you were asking a question that wasn't even relevant to your situation. You're just that guy.
The change over process from stick to ball consists of 3 steps: swap disks (tool-less), flip the “wiper” over (1 small hex), adjust slider to taste, done. Takes only a couple/few minutes.
Wait. Was I supposed to use a wrench on that? I’ve been running it just finger tight this whole time.
Sometimes stick powders jam hitting the wiper (fixed with a quick back spin). Maybe this is why.
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Red comes off first, finger tight. Then green to swap discs, again finger tight.
Blue just holds the little detent ball.
Not seeing a spring unless you mean on the underside, and I don’t see a way (or need) to adjust preload on the pulley arm.