Interesting read on storage, responsibility, and liability for storing firearms.

[Maggot]

The one that got me was about half way through the article. A young boy killed a girl with his dad's shotgun because "She wouldnt show him her puppies". What kind of world have we created?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/e26f1b...4a80c9fd/ss_when-someone-finds-a-gun-and.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/e26f1b...4a80c9fd/ss_when-someone-finds-a-gun-and.html

 

[Spblademaker]

Whenever a girl wouldn’t “show me her puppies”, I found a girl with bigger puppies, who would. Crazy is as crazy does!

 

[deersniper]

I'm sure this liability doesn't apply to all the cops that get their guns stolen out of cars right?
Didn't they lose a couple mp5s a few years back and a M4 fairly recently?

Edit. Holy s lol. Got a 10mm mp5.
https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01...-in-contra-costa-county/#most-popular-stories

Of course the tax payers still get to pay. Can't have any personal liability for these f ups
"They were among 944 guns that a Bay Area News Group investigation found had been lost or stolen from Bay Area, state and federal law enforcement agencies since 2010. Many had been left in backpacks and duffel bags left in cars or shoved under car seats.

Last year, Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation requiring law enforcement officers lock weapons left in parked vehicles inside secure compartments. The new law applies to federal law enforcement in California, but it isn’t clear whether the missing FBI weapon had been secured.

The law came in response to a pair of high-profile killings with stolen police weapons in the Bay Area, including the July 2015 shooting death of Kate Steinle on a pier in San Francisco.

Earlier this month, a federal judge in San Francisco ruled a lawsuit by Steinle’s family against the U.S Bureau of Land Management could go forward. A bureau ranger, the judge ruled, had created a risk by leaving the gun vulnerable to being stolen and had “a duty to better secure the handgun against theft.”"

AND more stolen mp5s. Surprised one of these hasn't shown up at a mall or stadium yet.

http://m.msnewsnow.com/story/24397822/automatic-weapon-stolen-from-police-officer

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...n-gun-was-an-heckler-koch-mp5-submachine-gun/

https://radioviceonline.com/21-hk-mp5-stolen-from-los-angeles-police-department/

 

[Clearlight]

Everything that goes bang in my place is protected by multiple layers of security , including safes
with combined combo dials and key access . Good luck getting my tools without a D 9 .

 

[deersniper]

sad indeed, the shooters parents should have been more careful and have kept all guns safe from kids they are not of legal ages. just hope this is not another anti 2A BS.

Age has nothing to do with maturity and good (or bad) parenting. Why do you want all these kids hurt or dead?
https://lawnews.tv/examples-of-kids-using-guns-to-defend-themselves/

 

[GBMaryland]

So, I’m torn with the whole “need to have a safe” line I tend to see from the lefties:

Not all folks can afford multiple layers of security. Hell most people cant afford the X10 locks I have on my safes, let alone the safes to put them on.

Yeah, I know that you dont have to have an insanely serious storage system; a decent lockable locker or container would probably stop children from gaining access, but theft is another story when you Can steal the locker/container.

My concern with legislating civilian firearm storage requirements is that poorer folks, who may have an increased need, are prevented ownership by those requirements. Aka ..they cant excercise their right.

 

[supercorndogs]

None of the guns in our home were locked up my entire child hood. {3 boys 1 girl} A locked up gun, is one you wont have time to get if you need. The left wants to blame the gun owner when a burglar steals their gun. Then they want to decriminalize burglary, and criminalize lawful gun ownership. If we can't see the pure lunacy in all they do, we just need to look harder. The left just wants to push gun owners further and further into the corner.


I find it hard to believe all those weapons in CA were disappearing on accident. I would expect it was more like a state level "fast and furious" skeem.

 

[MtnCreek]

^ Pretty much what I was going to say.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

I'm imagining homicide looking at my executed ass and my raped and shot dead wife stating they must have used one his own weapons based on the open and empty safe. I keep a couple of weapons in the house for defense outside the safes. I also keep a couple of dogs in the house.

 

[GBMaryland]

Yeah, in my case my ancient ass has a 7 year old austistic kid. So the threat of my old man kicking my ass for touching one of the household guns doesn’t work like it did for me.

Still, I think that vehicle storage laws are probably important. I recall the commie state I grew up in had a “you may no leave your firearms unattended in a vehicle law.”

 

[Sean the Nailer]

While I do believe in (and practice) responsibility in many ways..... this 'topic' sets me off like few others.

Ban private vehicle ownership, because IF one is stolen and used in another crime, the owner should be held responsible.
Ban private possession of cash. because IF some is stolen and used to purchase drugs (another crime) then the original possessor should be held responsible.
Ban private ownership of jewelry, because IF some is stolen and then pawned/traded for drugs (another crime) then the original owner should be held responsible.

At what point is something that is already against the law, going to become againster the law? At what point is 'the law' actually going to become something that is important? When crimes become illegaler?

What is going to constitute a crime anymore, if the actual perpetrators of what used to be crimes, are branded as victims?

Point the fingers at the problems. DEAL with the problems.

Start making "the problems" the focus-point of the conversation. Start making "the consequences" actually a punishment again. SO THAT THERE IS A DETERRENT to crime.

Start parting out the bastards. Start plugging in the bastards. Bring back the chain-gangs.

Make Law Abiding GOOD again!

 

[ArmyJerry]

its none of anyones business on how people store their weapons, mind you own fucking business dudly dootights.

 

[ArmyJerry]

if your guns are inaccessible you are going to be fucked when the zombies kick in your door

 

[Maggot]

if your guns are inaccessible you are going to be fucked when the zombies kick in your door

Thats why we have...