Is something going on in Ukraine?

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All the .mil planes in Europe from Germany east have turned off ADS-B. Also UK only has a few helos still broadcasting position.

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It's been regularly busy all along the Russian / Ukrainian / Belorussian border for months. Not sure precisely when they switched it off, past few days, possibly today.

Last time this happened was when this started (see post #1)

(This thread has had some entertaining diversions along the way :LOL:
 
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RUTGERS95 said:
bills should be one item alone and no sticking anyting into them
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I can’t see anything about disaster relief, but yeah this is was attached to other government funding. Not disagreeing with ya.

Read they got the Republicans in the senate to agree to it because they dropped some 22 billion dollar Covid relief bill.

Rona is not a concern any more. They want to fund other disasters.

With mid terms coming up, things like this are very concerning.
 
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Cardboard55 said:
All the .mil planes in Europe from Germany east have turned off ADS-B. Also UK only has a few helos still broadcasting position.

ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live

ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live - aircraft flight history
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Click on "U" in top right to show only .mil aircraft.

It's been regularly busy all along the Russian / Ukrainian / Belorussian border for months. Not sure precisely when they switched it off, past few days, possibly today.

Last time this happened was when this started (see post #1)

(This thread has had some entertaining diversions along the way :LOL:
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Just listened to an interview with an ex general (edit-ex col)McGregor, he believes Russia is about to get serious. His interview starts around 5:45 in video below.



Sounds like a serious escalation is not far off.
 
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GreenGO Juan said:
Just listened to an interview with an ex general McGregor, he believes Russia is about to get serious. His interview starts around 5:45 in video below.



Sounds like a serious escalation is not far off.
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they need to so they can end this bs. The longer this goes on, the worse their position. They should have invaded en masse and ovewhelmed the ukies instead of thinking spearheads would be welcomed like liberating from nazis
 
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Meanwhile, Norks just lobbed a missile over Japan

www.smh.com.au

Japan issues warning over North Korea missile

Japan issued an emergency warning, and then cancelled it following the firing of a missile by North Korea.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au

Not enough to start anything, but enough to keep our attention pointed east and west at the same time.

Some rumors about Xi (unconfirmed) and his reelection to his 3rd term is in a couple weeks. If and when he's confirmed, then they move on Taiwan. Not necessarily kinetic, could be a blockade. Philippines flipping back to our side helps immeasurably.
 
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theLBC said:
if nothing else, pro ukraine or pro christian, pro democracy or pro soros...
this tells you who and/or what elects senators in this country, and it isn't us.
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This is kind of interesting, China is turning off the lights in some of their cities to save energy. Apparently they have quite the heat wave.



Also a handy test-run for going dark during wartime, although thermal, NV and gps sort of minimize the need for well-lit targets. I've heard somewhere that certain sats would be the first victims of an all out conflict. Wonder if other sats besides gps/Galileo/glonass/beidou etc can be used as improvised gps? Starlink perhaps?

Also Rooskies moving their bombers up north:

 
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GreenGO Juan said:
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The twits don’t want peace.

Wonder what they consider acceptable terms?
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pfff
twitter is nothing but BOTs run by the gov... Musk has proven that. The number of actual bots, has yet to be disclosed in Musk's ongoing lawsuit with anti Constitutionalists and haters of free speech.
 
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pfff
twitter is nothing but BOTs run by the gov... Musk has proven that. The number of actual bots, has yet to be disclosed in Musk's ongoing lawsuit with anti Constitutionalists and haters of free speech.
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Don’t disagree, I don’t tweet. Actually most of my Twitter exposure is from links posted here.
 
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babyguppy said:
pfff
twitter is nothing but BOTs run by the gov... Musk has proven that. The number of actual bots, has yet to be disclosed in Musk's ongoing lawsuit with anti Constitutionalists and haters of free speech.
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Has he? He just decided to go through with the purchase. . .

www.wsj.com

Elon Musk Proposes Closing Twitter Deal on Original Terms

An agreement would allow the social-media company and the billionaire to avert a high-stakes trial that was set to start soon; Twitter shares soar 22%.
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com
 
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steve podleski said:
How can you stand to live in a Godless country as the USA or any country in the West and not move to a Godfearing country as Russia?
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i detect some sarcasm, although it seems appropriate when you consider most places in america that we see on "the news".
the thing is, "most" of americans are good people, and it is the media and internet that represents americans as idiot buttfuckers and tossers.
you, for example...i am almost certain you are not as bad as you might seem to be.
 
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As far as live air traffic monitoring, Europe is dark (zero .mil planes showing). US is relatively busy for this hour of the day, plus many flights with no callsign (unusual in CONUS).

Moderate activity in the Indo-Pac, a Global Hawk up over Japan which is relatively new (at least one broadcasting). Poss monitoring SAM tests

www.dailymail.co.uk

S.Korea and U.S. military fire FOUR missiles in response to test

South Korea and the U.S. military fired a volley of missiles into the sea in response to North Korea's launch of a ballistic missile over Japan - the longest-range test they've launched to date.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

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Wonder if the latest push was accompanied by NATO planes in UKR airspace?

Zelensky says no dice to peace talks. Small wonder when he's getting weekly billions.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Volodymyr Zelensky RULES OUT peace talks with Putin's Russia

The Ukrainian President has said negotiations with his counterpart are now impossible following his decision to rubber-stamp the annexation of four regions of the country.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

My guess is Washington wants a victory right before November elections. Everything else is secondary.
 
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Or perhaps this is a real geopolitical situation where a saber rattling despot who is trying to take sovereign countries by force has been met by a greater force.
 
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Finnish mp on the nuke stick:

There is much speculation on whether and when Russia might use nuclear weapons. This threat should be taken seriously, many say.

Let us think about the risk and what "taking seriously" means.

The likelihood of Russia using nukes cannot be calculated. Russia has never used them. We do not know the circumstances under which Russia actually would use nukes - until it does.

One problem is that we do not know the consequences of Russia using nukes. Neither does Russia. Would it lead to a Ukrainian (and Western) capitulation? Or a massive Western conventional retaliation against who knows what targets? Or a nuclear retaliation.

Whether Russia would use nukes depends (besides other factors) on what the Russians believe the rest of the world will do after that. So far, they have made several miscalculations. Who knows how they see this question?

Is it possible that the Russians would use nuclear weapons? Certainly, but the follow-up question is: So what?
Even if we assume that the risk exists, what conclusions or policy solutions can we make on that basis? Surrender?

If Mr Putin sees that nuclear threats and blackmail work, i.e. if he can influence our choices and behavior by threatening us with nuclear weapons, he will continue to play that card.

What if, at some later time, he invades and annexes territories of Kazakhstan, Georgia, Poland, the Baltic states or Finland and then tells the world Russia will "defend" these new territories with everything it has? The risks would be the same.

Thus, there is not much else we can do but prepare for the worst, hope for the best and keep doing what is right. Being afraid and being paralyzed by fear are two different things.

Pacifism should not be just about ending a present war at any cost. It should be about preventing future wars by showing the potential aggressors that aggression does not pay. If it does pay, there is an incentive for it.
 
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theLBC said:
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and before Obama's 2014 color revolution, the map looked the same. for the state dept lackeys among us, did "russia" have a gun to people's heads way back then? Or are we looking at self-determination in 2010 and secession after the color revolution in 2014. if anything, the propped up globohomo government of kiev has a gun to the heads of everyone in the territory they occupy right now.

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Drone no-fly maps of Europe. Poland, in particular, has a bunch of interesting ones.

europeandronecompany.com

EUROPEAN DRONE AUTHORITIES AND DRONE NO-FLY ZONES

Here you will find all the European drone authorities with their NAA contact information and drone no-fly zone airspace map
europeandronecompany.com europeandronecompany.com

Usually it's just airports and power plants (especially nukular). One can understand all the borders with Ukraine, Belarus and Russia, but they have a whole bunch more scattered about.
 
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RUTGERS95 said:
I don't ukraine has more forces than Russia
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and how about all the money and modern military hardware. not to mention the satellite and spy aircraft direct intel which we are feeding the nazis for free - it's not even counted against their pallets of cash. The military value of that alone is inestimable, when you know every troop movement your enemy makes in real time. People forget that Russia is not on par with the US in terms of feeding the MIC. they aren't even close. Ukraine is being bankrolled and armed in a way that Russia could never match. There is only one rapacious, tyrannical government who has the vast military resources and the inclinations to conquer the world, and it certainly aint poor, broken down Russia.

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Pathkiller said:
Finnish mp on the nuke stick:

There is much speculation on whether and when Russia might use nuclear weapons. This threat should be taken seriously, many say.

Let us think about the risk and what "taking seriously" means.

The likelihood of Russia using nukes cannot be calculated. Russia has never used them. We do not know the circumstances under which Russia actually would use nukes - until it does.

One problem is that we do not know the consequences of Russia using nukes. Neither does Russia. Would it lead to a Ukrainian (and Western) capitulation? Or a massive Western conventional retaliation against who knows what targets? Or a nuclear retaliation.

Whether Russia would use nukes depends (besides other factors) on what the Russians believe the rest of the world will do after that. So far, they have made several miscalculations. Who knows how they see this question?

Is it possible that the Russians would use nuclear weapons? Certainly, but the follow-up question is: So what?
Even if we assume that the risk exists, what conclusions or policy solutions can we make on that basis? Surrender?

If Mr Putin sees that nuclear threats and blackmail work, i.e. if he can influence our choices and behavior by threatening us with nuclear weapons, he will continue to play that card.

What if, at some later time, he invades and annexes territories of Kazakhstan, Georgia, Poland, the Baltic states or Finland and then tells the world Russia will "defend" these new territories with everything it has? The risks would be the same.

Thus, there is not much else we can do but prepare for the worst, hope for the best and keep doing what is right. Being afraid and being paralyzed by fear are two different things.

Pacifism should not be just about ending a present war at any cost. It should be about preventing future wars by showing the potential aggressors that aggression does not pay. If it does pay, there is an incentive for it.
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I did read it all, bc I was bored over my morning coffee. These fucksticks are so hilarious. I wonder how much of this talk happened when we were ass bombing villages for 40 years in the middle east.

We gotta do the right thing they say, prevent future wars they say, blah fucking blah. What a bunch of chodes.


Translation, the west only likes wars they finance with tax payers dollars. If anyone else does it, we need to pacify it and use it on a global stage to show how "peaceful" we are.


This whole fucking thing reminds of a South Park episode where we needed hippies and patriots to show the world that we were ready to defend it, but didn't really want war all at the same time.
 
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The Russians just got a taste of modern mobile warfare, including taking the term of Mission Command, to it's outmost extreme and they has failed to cope with it, miserably!!!

The Ukrainian Armed Forces Command did something very wise, a couple of years ago, as the training tactics was completely changed from anything they had learned and done, until then and a combination of British and Swedish organization was implemented instead.

It took a lot of struggle to do this, but the outcome are seen today, where mobillity, firepower and individual thinking among the commanders are showing the devastating results and horrible losses to their opponents.

As for the tactical nuke's, we just have to wait and see what will happen......
 
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“Ukrainian Armed Forces Command”. More like NATO Command. The Uks ain’t got a pot to piss in without the West giving them everything. You are giving way too much credit to Team Ukraine.

I’m not pro either side in this, but it does help to acknowledge the reality of who’s moving the chess pieces. I mean, if you like truth and stuff like that.
 
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Also I love how everybody’s like oh... I support Ukraine. Accept Ukrainians in the south east of the country who didn’t go along with the Violent coup that happened in 2014. Fuck those Ukrainians.

Its been turned from Ukrainians (eastern)vs Ukrainians(western). To Ukraine vs Russia.

When in reality Ukraine is being used as a tool so nato can push Russia out of Europe’s energy markets. THAT IS WHAT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT.

In the grand scheme of things who gives a fuck where the energy comes from? Not the majority of the people, only those who profit off of it. so please put on your fucking thinking caps stop killing each other so a few select people can profit off your blood!!! fuck man.
 
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I just found this in my archive and it tells a lot about how the Ukrainians has preparred their forces, since 2019.
The actual writing is regarding the Swedish and Danish forces, who were serving as UN peacekeepers in the former Yoguslavia in the nineties ( i spend a lot of time serving there..... ) but the basic thinking is the same today and the autor of the article are still teaching at several millitary academies in Europe.

thestrategybridge.org

Trigger-Happy, Autonomous, and Disobedient: Nordbat 2 and Mission Command in Bosnia

In late 1993, a reinforced Swedish-Danish-Norwegian mechanized battalion (Nordbat 2) deployed to Bosnia as part of an ongoing UN peacekeeping mission. The battalion was under Swedish command, and with the exception of a Danish tank company and a Norwegian helicopter detachment, was comprise
thestrategybridge.org thestrategybridge.org
 
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Bemoni said:
The Russians just got a taste of modern mobile warfare, including taking the term of Mission Command, to it's outmost extreme and they has failed to cope with it, miserably!!!

The Ukrainian Armed Forces Command did something very wise, a couple of years ago, as the training tactics was completely changed from anything they had learned and done, until then and a combination of British and Swedish organization was implemented instead.

It took a lot of struggle to do this, but the outcome are seen today, where mobillity, firepower and individual thinking among the commanders are showing the devastating results and horrible losses to their opponents.

As for the tactical nuke's, we just have to wait and see what will happen......
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"Rah rah, doing the right thing, because we are the good guys" Ukraine isn't a corrupt.authorutarian regime at all, right.. is it Fox news spewing this stuff, or CNN, can't remember?

Individual thinking?
 
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