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Russia keeping it simple. Their hypersonic is basically a solid rocket fuel ballistic missile with guidance that fires from under an airplane.
It goes Mach 12.1 and uses the 4,4000 lbs as kinetic energy (plus 500 kg of explosive warhead)
from article
it uses standard ballistic missile technology at greater speeds.
it strikes with a mass of 2,000 kg (4,400 lb), including 500 kg warhead, and at a speed of Mach 12, the Kinzhal has more than 16.9 gigajoules of kinetic energy excluding detonation, the equivalent of 4,000 kg of TNT.
en.wikipedia.org
It goes Mach 12.1 and uses the 4,4000 lbs as kinetic energy (plus 500 kg of explosive warhead)
from article
it uses standard ballistic missile technology at greater speeds.
it strikes with a mass of 2,000 kg (4,400 lb), including 500 kg warhead, and at a speed of Mach 12, the Kinzhal has more than 16.9 gigajoules of kinetic energy excluding detonation, the equivalent of 4,000 kg of TNT.
Kh-47M2 Kinzhal - Wikipedia
I don't know how they know that, if it's true, if it's Pravda? It would mean that the missiles have bunker buster capabilities. If that is the case I bet some American command ate it as well. De-fang...
take a bunker buster bomb (basically a An 8″ M110 Howitzer barrel).
GBU-28 is a 4,400-pound monster of hardened steel and tritonal explosives. We could modify it - add some solid rocket fuel, and you have a hypersonic bunker buster, LOL
new one, the GBU-57A; 30,000 pound one, not so much.
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It looks like a pretty formidable weapon if the literature is correct... i.e. no known/available effective countermeasures?
Russia did, like some people predicted. Overwhelmed Ukraine's air defenses by sending a shit ton of drones and missiles and slipped some hyper sonics in there for the big middle finger to NATO.
right, flood the skies with cheaper drones, let the air defenses engage, then follow with cruise missiles and other ordinance.
General Jack Keane was on Fox news this morning. He sounded like Steve and Olaf boasting about the uke's kicking Russian ass in Bakhmut. He said that they were doing the same thing as they had done in several other cities (the salt mine and a couple others that I don't recall the name of). Ummm, Jack. Aren't those places now well behind the Russians front lines and controlled by Russia?
I know this is not directly related to Ukraine, but in the grander scheme it matters.
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www.reuters.com
Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to resume ties in talks brokered by China
Iran and Saudi Arabia agreed on Friday to re-establish relations after years of hostility that had threatened stability and security in the Gulf and helped fuel conflicts in the Middle East from Yemen to Syria.
www.reuters.com Remember the nationality of the majority of the 911 terrorists. No surprises here.I know this is not directly related to Ukraine, but in the grander scheme it matters.
Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to resume ties in talks brokered by China
Iran and Saudi Arabia agreed on Friday to re-establish relations after years of hostility that had threatened stability and security in the Gulf and helped fuel conflicts in the Middle East from Yemen to Syria.
Bin Laden was banished from Saudi and multiple other countries, yes a majority of the hyjackers were of Saudi origin. But the Government was still in our corner.
Biden Turned his back on them, the Saudi's, calling them a pariah. Pushing them away. IMO this is a broader view of the damage the Biden Admin is doing to the US on the world stage.
Colonel MacGregor March 2022: "Ukraine is over and Russia will be in Kiev any day now. There’s nothing we can do."
Colonel MacGregor April 2022: “We’re in the final phase of this war.”
Colonel MacGregor May 2022: “The war for globalism in Ukraine”
Colonel MacGregor June 2022: “Ukraine is a failed state”
Colonel MacGregor July 2022: “Ukraine will disappear from the world map”
Colonel MacGregor Aug 2022: “Ukraine failed to mount counteroffensive”
Colonel MacGregor Sep 2022: “Reinforcing failure in Ukraine”
Colonel MacGregor Oct 2022: “Ukraine is on the ropes and trying to create the illusion that is not the case”
Colonel MacGregor Nov 2022: “Next stage of the Russian special operation threatens to destroy Ukraine”
Colonel MacGregor Dec 2022: “Ukraine war is lost”
Colonel MacGegor Jan 2023: “US not prepared to take on Russia”
Colonel MacGregor Feb 2023: “With billions wasted, NATO still doesn’t have the juice to defeat Russia”
Colonel MacGregor Mar 2023: “Ukraine will be wiped out"
Colonel MacGregor April 2022: “We’re in the final phase of this war.”
Colonel MacGregor May 2022: “The war for globalism in Ukraine”
Colonel MacGregor June 2022: “Ukraine is a failed state”
Colonel MacGregor July 2022: “Ukraine will disappear from the world map”
Colonel MacGregor Aug 2022: “Ukraine failed to mount counteroffensive”
Colonel MacGregor Sep 2022: “Reinforcing failure in Ukraine”
Colonel MacGregor Oct 2022: “Ukraine is on the ropes and trying to create the illusion that is not the case”
Colonel MacGregor Nov 2022: “Next stage of the Russian special operation threatens to destroy Ukraine”
Colonel MacGregor Dec 2022: “Ukraine war is lost”
Colonel MacGegor Jan 2023: “US not prepared to take on Russia”
Colonel MacGregor Feb 2023: “With billions wasted, NATO still doesn’t have the juice to defeat Russia”
Colonel MacGregor Mar 2023: “Ukraine will be wiped out"
The Muslim Brotherhood leaders like Zawahiri specifically instructed the 9/11 cell leaders to recruit Saudi nationals in order to fracture the US-Saudi alliance, one of the main objectives of the MB:
Only 1 of the 4 cell leaders was Saudi. There were more cells planned for 9/11 as well, with at least 11 airliners that were supposed to have been hijacked. Only 4 cells were able to hijack their targeted aircraft.
FBI had been monitoring one of the main organizers for years in the US, after he fled to the US from Egypt after the Islamist purges once Sadat was assassinated by them in 1981.
If you ever find yourself sourcing wikipedia for military aerospace technical data, go ahead and do yourself a favor by not posting it.Russia keeping it simple. Their hypersonic is basically a solid rocket fuel ballistic missile with guidance that fires from under an airplane.
It goes Mach 12.1 and uses the 4,4000 lbs as kinetic energy (plus 500 kg of explosive warhead)
from article
it uses standard ballistic missile technology at greater speeds.
it strikes with a mass of 2,000 kg (4,400 lb), including 500 kg warhead, and at a speed of Mach 12, the Kinzhal has more than 16.9 gigajoules of kinetic energy excluding detonation, the equivalent of 4,000 kg of TNT.
Kh-47M2 Kinzhal - Wikipedia
Wikipedia is a joke when it comes to that subject, frequently ridiculed as such.
Notice even in that link where it says “unreliable source” for the max speed of the Kh-47M2.
FORMAT-E technicians found Western boards in previous cruise missile debris, which is not a good sign for Russia’s electronics industry. Their only semiconductor manufacturer went bankrupt in Dec 2019, seized by the state after that.
They are pretty cozy with China right now.
All our boards come from China.
You are probably correct, I don't know enough about the Biden/Saudi Arabia deal except for the fact that he snubbed them as we will never ever need oil again....right. Many countries we deal with show a lot of duplicity, like Pakistan for example. That said it was strange at the fact of the nationality of the original terrorists, guess Osamas cell that trained those guys was located in Saudi Arabia. But once again, it's an area I don't know much about.
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Yeah, I agree, wikipedia is full bias and shit usually. I give it as about as much credence as anything you post.
dude stop, you used wiki which is akin to admitting to your parents you suck dik and dance around in a tutu before the neighbor buggers you while you gleefully cheer him on.
shameful
We agreed you would never bring that up again, what's wrong with you!
And actually I would trust Wiki for technical data more than I would trust if for political information. It's up to us to sniff out the B.S. just like any other site.
Biden snubbed them over the claimed killing of a Washington Post journalist in Turkey that was ragging on them, Saudi's don't play that. The same media that protects him. Keeping a good relationship with Saudi is important.
Some of them actually took flight training in Florida when state side. They had been living in the US, some a few years before the attack. By no means an expert but have put some effort into reading about it. Usama was kicked out of Saudi in the early 90's and his citizenship was revoked. Then moved around trying to do his thing. So though I hear the concern, those who committed the attack, I don't believe those cats represented the Saudi Royal family, in fact quite the opposite. Usama's thing was not allowing the US in Saudi to conduct military operations against Iraq, Saudi's told him to kick rocks.
Stolen election and laundered money.
Sad that's the real reason we are in this war.
Sad that's the real reason we are in this war.
The Claim in wiki is quoted from a speech Putin made about it, which was sourced from this article, are you saying he is lying? Whats your proof?
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/t...deadly-mig-31s-experimental-combat-duty-25765.
From Article-Putin said that the weapon is already starting to enter service with the Russian military. “Its tests have been successfully completed, and, moreover, on December 1 of last year, these systems began their trial service at the airfields of the Southern Military District,” Putin said. “The unique flight characteristics of the high-speed carrier aircraft allow the missile to be delivered to the point of discharge within minutes. The missile flying at a hypersonic speed, 10 times faster than the speed of sound, can also maneuver at all phases of its flight trajectory, which also allows it to overcome all existing and, I think, prospective anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems, delivering nuclear and conventional warheads in a range of over 2,000 kilometers. We called this system Kinzhal.”-
You can always read the source material. There is nothing wrong with reading wikipedia, as it is a pile of information all in one place just take it for what it is, check the source.
Sure, as the Orthodox Church (OC) is one of the last holdouts against western post modernism. Orthodox clergy have taken a neutral approach to the conflict, however Kiev argues that the OC is a inherently biased establishment. It is no secret that because the OC does not really have a central head like the Catholic church it has been much harder to infiltrate, unlike what the WEF has done with the Catholic Church. So they must be ejected from the new Ukraine if the globalists are to rebuild in their image.
Freedom… lol
Great summary of how we got to this point in Ukraine:
(ETA - not sure if YouTube added the "phony" title to the video or not, strange)
Note that Jeff Sachs is a Columbia econ prof, was a far left green / Bernie supporter, but did have the neocons pegged for many years. He hated Trump, and championed Biden until sometime in 2021 when he was seriously red-pilled, on COVID and other things. Here's an anti-Hillary piece from when she was Presidential heir apparent:
More of his articles, but the first one posted is the essential watch.
www.jeffsachs.org
Recent interview on Bloomberg where the interviewers go nuts when he hints Nordstream may have been a US op
nypost.com
It's hard to keep track of crises, as there are seemingly new ones every week, COVID, vaccines, the latest war, banks, China, Nordstream and so on. It's harder still to find coherent summaries of their progression. They do exist, and sometimes from sources one might not expect.
(ETA - not sure if YouTube added the "phony" title to the video or not, strange)
Note that Jeff Sachs is a Columbia econ prof, was a far left green / Bernie supporter, but did have the neocons pegged for many years. He hated Trump, and championed Biden until sometime in 2021 when he was seriously red-pilled, on COVID and other things. Here's an anti-Hillary piece from when she was Presidential heir apparent:
Hillary Clinton Is the Candidate of the War Machine
There’s no doubt that Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street. Even more dangerous, though, is that she is…
indypendent.org
More of his articles, but the first one posted is the essential watch.
Articles — Jeffrey D. Sachs
www.jeffsachs.org Recent interview on Bloomberg where the interviewers go nuts when he hints Nordstream may have been a US op
Columbia professor Jeffrey Sachs yanked off air after accusing US of sabotaging Nord Stream pipeline
Columbia Professor Jeffrey Sachs has accused the US of sabotaging the Nord Stream pipeline in the Baltic Sea, prompting television hosts to pull the plug on his TV interview.
nypost.com It's hard to keep track of crises, as there are seemingly new ones every week, COVID, vaccines, the latest war, banks, China, Nordstream and so on. It's harder still to find coherent summaries of their progression. They do exist, and sometimes from sources one might not expect.
Jeezus.
Stupid stupid stupid.
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We're going to get a plane smoked and God knows what else if we keep this up.
This is way different than running SIGINT aircraft along the Ukraine peri.eter.
WTF are they thinking? Yes, we get TU95's up along Alaska, but that's not a hot warzone with complex airspace. A Buff is not a nimble F22.
Stupid stupid stupid.
ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live
ADS-B Exchange - track aircraft live - aircraft flight history
globe.adsbexchange.com We're going to get a plane smoked and God knows what else if we keep this up.
This is way different than running SIGINT aircraft along the Ukraine peri.eter.
WTF are they thinking? Yes, we get TU95's up along Alaska, but that's not a hot warzone with complex airspace. A Buff is not a nimble F22.
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Mind you, this is the rhetoric of the twits running the show in DC
The Russian Empire Must Die
A better future requires Putin’s defeat—and the end to imperial aspirations.
www.theatlantic.com I get that the Russians regularly do this in Alaska, just seems unusually provocative when there is a hot war in the neighborhood.
Just because theydo it doesn't mean we should also. Also wouldn't put it past some groups to pull a false-flag in that neck of the woods. Risk/rewards ratio is not good.
Russian island/radar station closest to B52 track
yle.fi
Doubtless we had other aircraft up but w/o ADSB on.
Satellite images reveal Russian activity on Gulf of Finland island
The activity does not represent an increased threat to Finland's security, a foreign policy expert says.
yle.fi Doubtless we had other aircraft up but w/o ADSB on.
Pretty wild to think that planes built in 1960 are currently serving, older than the pilots and crew
Wrinkles and patches showing up in photos
Wrinkles and patches showing up in photos
you mad because there weren't pictures with Crayons?
no one said you couldn't correct the technical facts... at least it gives a ballpark
You don't have to read the post, just block me and do us both a favor.
Articles — Jeffrey D. Sachs
Recent interview on Bloomberg where the interviewers go nuts when he hints Nordstream may have been a US op
Columbia professor Jeffrey Sachs yanked off air after accusing US of sabotaging Nord Stream pipeline
Columbia Professor Jeffrey Sachs has accused the US of sabotaging the Nord Stream pipeline in the Baltic Sea, prompting television hosts to pull the plug on his TV interview.
It's hard to keep track of crises, as there are seemingly new ones every week, COVID, vaccines, the latest war, banks, China, Nordstream and so on. It's harder still to find coherent summaries of their progression. They do exist, and sometimes from sources one might not expect.
Notice how fast bow tie guy tries to shut Sachs down. I am betting either they tell Sachs to cool his jets on that messaging, or they start to constrict his viewer base. I am in agreement with the sentiment that we have concurrent global earth shaking shit shows.
Krasnohorivka a small settlement north of Adivka has fallen to Russia. This could allow the encirclement of Adivka which has been a strong hold for Ukraine just out side Donetsk. Adivka area has been held by Ukraine since 2014.Just came in to see if Bakersmut fell. I guess not. Until next time gents.
Bakhmut being encircled keeps these areas from easily being resupplied.
Just read there may be a counter attack on Bakhmut so Russia may hold off encircling for now to avoid stretching thier front lines and two sided fighting from the west. They are also increasing airpower use at locations to the south. I've been surprised at mostly drone usage so far.
Hillary Clinton Is the Candidate of the War Machine
There’s no doubt that Hillary is the candidate of Wall Street. Even more dangerous, though, is that she is…indypendent.org
Hate to say it, but we are going to see her run again, likely Michael O. too, and the odds are substantial she will win (its not about the will of the people). I remember somebody telling me she WAS going to be President someday even before she was even a Senator...promises are made.
Anyway, she has been running around prominently in the International circuit (right-press isn't covering it so much), almost doing a Hunter-esque tour except "Biden won't be around - I will, so invest in me/Clinton initiative".
If the nazi bitch wins it’s because she will steal the election.
Some letters of condolence about the recent training accident incoming. My guess is that the surviving family members will not see things from a MSM point of view.
Elections, well here in shit show Cali, have been fraud for a while.
Pravda article translated to English.
Sourced from this page. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20...raine-wiping-out-the-american-shadow-command/
Sourced from this page. https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/20...raine-wiping-out-the-american-shadow-command/
hopefully Russia finishes them off soon so there is no more excuse to bleed America dry for that shithole.
What do those you communicate with there see as success to end this? What do they see as a legitimate ending to the fighting?
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