I have heard this claimed, what is the source?
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And the reason for the killing we did? Oil, laundering money, the MIC and regime change were legit reasons? Good to know.
Kinda funny that many atrocities happen across the globe but we turn a blind eye on some and others get the full attention.
Ho Lee Fuk
Oh, that's right - I forgot that the New Right has now gone so far anti-interventionalism that we are supposed to ignore China's ambition. I'm assuming this makes plenty of sense to anyone who has talked themselves into cheering for Putin.
Listen, I'm not advocating that we invade China or anything, but applying only the most modest common sense suggests that China benefits the most from cutting off gas to Russia. Put very simply, it's more energy for them and less energy for one of their last few remaining economic adversaries (Germany being a net exporter of valuable goods until recently).
If you've got something more than a throwaway line, feel free to share it with the class.
China is currently getting all the gas and oil it wants from Russia, Iran and Venezuela.
Would they take more, of course.
China's benefit is to sit back and watch the west suicide itself.
There is no reason for China to go active.
In fact China will only allow this shit to go so far.
We destroy the west to the point Walmart and fat Americans start to lose weight than their economy collapses.
Would they take more, of course.
China's benefit is to sit back and watch the west suicide itself.
There is no reason for China to go active.
In fact China will only allow this shit to go so far.
We destroy the west to the point Walmart and fat Americans start to lose weight than their economy collapses.
Why just sit back when they can make a bunch of money along the way.
China Is Rerouting U.S. Liquefied Natural Gas to Europe at a Big Profit
''WSJ reports that just 19 LNG vessels from the U.S. docked in China in the first eight months of the year, a far cry from 133 recorded for last year’s comparable period. China’s key buyers are located in Europe, Japan and South Korea.''All just a big charade, every LNG or Oil cargo that supposedly replaces Russian gas is just shipped from somewhere else where they bought cheaper Russian gas or oil and shipped it or an alternative sourced product to Europe
Commies love to Capitslize……Why just sit back when they can make a bunch of money along the way.
China Is Rerouting U.S. Liquefied Natural Gas to Europe at a Big Profit
''WSJ reports that just 19 LNG vessels from the U.S. docked in China in the first eight months of the year, a far cry from 133 recorded for last year’s comparable period. China’s key buyers are located in Europe, Japan and South Korea.''
All just a big charade, every LNG or Oil cargo that supposedly replaces Russian gas is just shipped from somewhere else where they bought cheaper Russian gas or oil and shipped it or an alternative sourced product to Europe
Power of Siberia pipeline. From Russia, through Mongolia into China. Along a route the US Navy cant touch. They are in talks of building a second. China are also working on a deal for lines out of Turkmenistan. Pushing Rus energy out of Europe, definitely pushes Chi/Rus closer.
The USA and NATO using the European Gas market as a weapon, is not working!!!
The USA and NATO using the European Gas market as a weapon, is not working!!!
Maybe China will create a company that will buy Nordstream from the Russian's. Then if it gets hit, it will be an attack on China.
China can claim they are buying the gas from Russia and transporting to Europe through the pipeline (more effiecient that ships ) Russia's end around game problem solved. LOL. Sounds crazy, but weird stuff happens.
China can claim they are buying the gas from Russia and transporting to Europe through the pipeline (more effiecient that ships
) Russia's end around game problem solved. LOL. Sounds crazy, but weird stuff happens. Something NorthStream was always at ods ,EU regulations were against gas providers owning the infrastructure, as its counter to free market if the infrastructure is only available to one gas supplier . But these days 'free market' is nearly extinct with all the regulation and redistribution going on.Maybe China will create a company that will buy Nordstream from the Russian's. Then if it gets hit, it will be an attack on China.
China can claim they are buying the gas from Russia and transporting to Europe through the pipeline (more effiecient that ships
That actually wouldn't be a surprise if it happened. Someone buying it at firesale price and hooking Germany back on.
Cold reality.
German NatGas Consumption Too High To Avoid Energy "Emergency" | ZeroHedge
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Winners write the history books.
If it’s it’s happening anyway as we all know it will, I’d rather be on the winning side.
So for those who have not followed history, there has always been a controversy over the 'missing' last panel of the Bayeaux Tapestry... As the ending of the Norman Invasion was never fully explained.
Recently, the missing section has been found, hidden for almost 800 years in a church attic in Rouen.
It may shed some real light on things.
This came from an agency buddy of mine... so it has to be true...
Sirhr
Recently, the missing section has been found, hidden for almost 800 years in a church attic in Rouen.
It may shed some real light on things.
This came from an agency buddy of mine... so it has to be true...
Sirhr
Like flagging a Kuwaiti tankers with red, white and blueMaybe China will create a company that will buy Nordstream from the Russian's. Then if it gets hit, it will be an attack on China.
China can claim they are buying the gas from Russia and transporting to Europe through the pipeline (more effiecient that ships
Is probably not a coincidence although in the past we have seen scrap metal thieves steal hight voltage cables for Rail while under power
nordot.app
German rail operator: cable sabotage caused network halt in north ｜ DPA
German rail operator Deutsche Bahn said on Saturday that an act of sabotage had caused the massive problems with the train network in the north of the country. "Sabotage to cables which were vital for train traffic meant Deutsche Bahn had to stop trains running in the north this morning for...
nordot.app There's a lady that does body language analysis. Here's her take on Antony Blinken talking about the Nordstream incident:
bombardsbodylanguage.com
Body Language – Blinken, Nord Stream 1 and 2 Investigation And Accusations
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bombardsbodylanguage.com If Blinkens lips are moving he’s lying.... Never gotten any sort of a positive feel off of him. All he does is give bullshit half answers.
Who blew up Nordstream? Swedes aren't saying. Here's what the talking heads say:
Better talking heads:
Better talking heads:
The few mentions of the use of nuclear weapons in the clips are subtle. Now a short time later it's the headline
The propaganda PRAVDA
The propaganda PRAVDA
Brits nudged us into WW2 with the "secret map" they concocted and fed to FDR. Googly it if not familiar. Nordstream could be another one, although I can't see us not knowing, if not complicit
Sweden not releasing any Nordstream damage details is damning. If they had a smidge of evidence it was Ivan it would be the lead story everywhere.
Something is rotten near Denmark
Sweden not releasing any Nordstream damage details is damning. If they had a smidge of evidence it was Ivan it would be the lead story everywhere.
Something is rotten near Denmark
If you think a map that we may or may not be real (that is still up for debate) was the reason for getting involved in the European theatre I have a bridge to sell you.
Edit…auto correct
The Baltic Pipe line started after Nordstream 1 & 2 were sabotaged
You sure you are not talking about Wilson, WW1 and the Zimmerman Telegram with the 'map' of giving the Southwest back to Mexico?
Cheers,
Sirhr
No, the Navy Day speech map
Not that we wouldn't have gotten into it anyway
I've come to the conclusion that if you're not on at least half a dozen watch lists you oughta be ashamed.
I don't think this is the actual pipeline. The pipeline is suppose to have a casing of concrete around it, and I don't see any concrete. All I see is a pipline that looks partially clean cut, with some jagged shit that looks like it was blasted, and no sign of concrete. I'm no expert, but it seems a little sus to me. If they're going to release footage, why only a short little segment of footage? Why not a comprehensive view of the damage? That's why i'm kinda waiving the BS flag.
Branden
Looks about right too me, broken up concrete in red box.
I’ve seen a longer version of that video it, its looks right. The exploded section has been removed and clean cut off whats left. There’s no more evidence on the seafloor
I agree on the bs. That's cut too smooth and clean. Maybe a "chemical cutter?" But the absence of cement would be pretty normal i would think if it suffered an external explosive blast. However I am far from having any real knowledge of the effects of modern explosives.
You must be one of the people who has me on ignore
It looks like a clean cut because it was cut because the section that was exploded has been removed.
Construction of the pipeline
www.wermac.org
Laying pipe (so to speak)
Whoever blew that pipe knew exactly where 5o place the shaped charges. Only a few have that expertise. Either industry professionals, elite military or a consortium of both.
Nord Stream Pipeline - Pipe Laying of the 1,224 kilometre long natural gas pipeline
Construction of the 1,224 kilometre long Nord Stream Pipeline started in April 2010
www.wermac.org Laying pipe (so to speak)
Whoever blew that pipe knew exactly where 5o place the shaped charges. Only a few have that expertise. Either industry professionals, elite military or a consortium of both.
Steel pipe cut with shaped charge:
One could imagine a different surface characteristic of the edge finish with a pressurized pipe full of methane.
I really doubt someone tried to clean up the edges of the pipe while it was spewing its contents. Also hard to get a cutter around all 360° of a pipe laying on the seafloor.
Crap. I'm on yet another list for googling shaped charge :/
The cut that video shows is not a result of the initial explosion. That cut was done by the people who removed the damaged section.
There is literally 50m of pipeline completely missing.
The sabotaged section has been removed
Edit- the video evidence you are analyzing, had zero to do with the initial action. It was taken post investigation/salvage.
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Fair 'nuff, I thought that was more sediment buildup rather than concrete. Makes sense that the concrete would be blown back further than the pipe...especially if it were a shaped charge designed more for cutting than blasting a big hole. Maybe there's more plausibility to the video than I initially give it. If you happen to know where to find the longer video, please share that link if you don't mind.
Branden
Makes sense, although now the question is why is Sweden hiding the damaged part? Looks like the newest NATO members are being obedient stooges instead of the pseudo-neutral higher standards intelligentsia they professed to be.
Worst cover-up ever
I wish I had saved it to my hard drive. The place I found it has since removed it.
What you are seeing is a seem from when it was constructed.
The cleaned beveled section is wrapped in a non-corrosive material that’s why it’s still shiny because it’s been protected since it was prepped for welding. They likely cut it here because there is no concrete in this area, ie easier to cut.
Yep
Although I'd bet they cut it with shaped charge. Nobody is gonna try to cut a pipe under pressure.
We are talking of two different things, first was a demolition job to blow the pipelines up , second was 'federales' cutting away 'damaged' sections of the pipeline to investigate and/or prevent anyone else from investigating it .
DIY camera footage made for a local news station was showing the state of the pipeline sections after 'authorities' cut and transported away 50m of pipeline and any remains from the explosions.
Well darn, I thought he was talking about Santa Ana secretly paying Stephen F Austin to move to Texas in order to start the Mexican War??
I thought Austin was moving there to start an Indie-rock scene, a gay movement and 6-th street Prostitution along with Trans-gender schools, a BLM park and a George Floyd Memorial.
Or maybe I am wrong and he is spinning in his grave?
Sirhr
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