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Israeli rocket attacks.

I don't understand this.

For as long as I can remember, Palestine has been launching these rockets at Israel. The iron dome intercepts these rockets and then Israel turns around and ape rapes Palestine. Liberals shed a tear, go on their temper tantrum and the process repeats itself again and again.

So.... why the hell are still launching these POS rockets?


They hadnt been doing much over the last few years because they had no money.

Trump told them to get their shit together and get to the peace table or the money stays shut off. Xiden turned the money on with no concessions.

And in the background you had the likes of Kerry telling Iran just wait Trump out we have a fraud plan....when Trump is gone the money will flow and you can expect the US to support you over Israel.
 
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Not only do I agree with you, but I'll add that (iirc) it was Aristotle to whom worked out all kinds of problems and created the Antikythera Device. The arabians stole the device, and 'his math' and claimed it as their own.

As was described in an online documentary about the Antikythera device. It was about 3 hours long, and do you think I can find that one now? It has either been removed, or 'hidden real well' from my searches. (I watched it a few years ago...)

I remember that special, around the 2000's period.

Of course the early beginnings of The Calculus were described by Archimedes when they found the parchment bleached by some Monk and found the writings. Basically he was describing a Reimann Sum to compute the area of a circle - the foundation of The Calculus. Amazing.

If you're interested in the Antikythera mechanism you need to check out Clickspring.
Machining Antikythera
Antikythera fragments

He was also part of a discovery about how it works.
 
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They hadnt been doing much over the last few years because they had no money.

Trump told them to get their shit together and get to the peace table or the money stays shut off. Xiden turned the money on with no concessions.

And in the background you had the likes of Kerry telling Iran just wait Trump out we have a fraud plan....when Trump is gone the money will flow and you can expect the US to support you over Israel.
Damn, he got one right.
 
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Mmmmm Israeli women...
 
Not only do I agree with you, but I'll add that (iirc) it was Aristotle to whom worked out all kinds of problems and created the Antikythera Device. The arabians stole the device, and 'his math' and claimed it as their own.

As was described in an online documentary about the Antikythera device. It was about 3 hours long, and do you think I can find that one now? It has either been removed, or 'hidden real well' from my searches. (I watched it a few years ago...)
Anything that you find that goes against the current groupthink needs to be saved offline immediately.
 
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xiden restored millions in hamas funding in april...brings may showers.
Exactly, well technically to the PA I believe, but the PA would just turn around and give it to Hamas, same story with the Iranian government. It's amazing to me that democrats continue to think that if you just give these people money they'll leave everyone alone and be peaceful, yet it never works, every time concessions are made (and there have been many) to the PA, the opposite of peace happens. It's either the leftists in Washington actually are that naive, or they are knowingly actively involved in funding terrorism, realistically probably many of both in the dem party.
 
Exactly, well technically to the PA I believe, but the PA would just turn around and give it to Hamas, same story with the Iranian government. It's amazing to me that democrats continue to think that if you just give these people money they'll leave everyone alone and be peaceful, yet it never works, every time concessions are made (and there have been many) to the PA, the opposite of peace happens. It's either the leftists in Washington actually are that naive, or they are knowingly actively involved in funding terrorism, realistically probably many of both in the dem party.
PA and Hamas don't like each other at all. It isn't ideological, they just both want the money for themselves. Hamas likes to use it for this kind of shit, and PA likes to keep it in their own pockets. But that doesn't mean that the resumption of money payments doesn't incentivize this shit. Hamas knows what the signs mean. It doesn't have to be the same dollars that pay for the missiles to be a direct result of awful policy.
 
Some thoughts .
The Muslim leaders need boogeymen to blame for their subjugated impoverished citizens circumstances .
If Egypt or Jordan were so fuckin concerned about the Palsstinians why not give them back the land they annexed ?
Why won't their Arab neighbors take in Palestinian refugees ?
When you have true believers stirrin and starting shit in Palestine they are not starting shit in ; Egypt , Saudi Arabia etc
Palestinians are taught to hate Israelis in the womb .
All the cool kids love a good war . Just ask Liz Cheney . Survey says the number one reason Cheney hates Trump . " Let's stop the endless wars ."
Lastly the Dem leadership has displayed some serious anti Israel to put it mildly .
I think you would hate them too if you were in their place, living in what is effectively an open air prison and zero life prospects.

In any case its a no win situation for Palestinians for foreseeable future. These homemade rockets are just a PR stunt.Two-state solution is effectively dead, one-state solution is also out of the question for Israelis as they would suddenly have a huge Arab population that would have to have equal rights and votes . So things are not going to change anytime soon.

Israelis have them literally by the balls they control water and electricity supply and have them walled in controlling everything and everyone going in and out, in addition, new settlements are being built and land appropriated at will. Whichever way you spin it they are practicing the old Lebensraum ideas to the fullest.

Egypt and Jordan are being paid to play nice and enforce the blockade,that has been the case for 3+ decades,US aid Israel's neighbors is almost on levels of Israel. Jordan and Lebanon are filled with Palestinian refugees.

As for true believers giving any dam about Palestine, the Palestinian cause went out the window day GWOT started. These days they can play jihad anywhere on the globe with US playing whack-a-mole for as long as US keeps playing GWOT . GWOT is great for most of ME dictatorships not just Israel as it keeps the plebs with pitchforks at bay .
Israel is a very expensive project for US ever since the 'tribe' completely hijacked the media and politics in US. Its about to get much more expensive as the tribe tries out 'socialism' in US in their 3rd rerun.
 
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Do you actually think that I was calling them racists?
No, I know you were joking. I joke all the time that everything is racist. I'm having a hard time determining if they are being serious about it or not.
 
PA and Hamas don't like each other at all. It isn't ideological, they just both want the money for themselves. Hamas likes to use it for this kind of shit, and PA likes to keep it in their own pockets. But that doesn't mean that the resumption of money payments doesn't incentivize this shit. Hamas knows what the signs mean. It doesn't have to be the same dollars that pay for the missiles to be a direct result of awful policy.
Yes, you're right, the people I was thinking of was Fatah. Hamas is a political opponent of the PA.
 
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We are going to see (IMO) Israel get more and more on the offensive side because they cannot afford to wait for Diplomacy and Support from USA Government.

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After what the ancient Egyptians and what the Germans did to the Jews in WW2....and once they got they're own State of Israel.....they've learned not to wait and see what happens next or ask for permission from anyone to do something!
 
After what the ancient Egyptians and what the Germans did to the Jews in WW2....and once they got they're own State of Israel.....they've learned not to wait and see what happens next or ask for permission from anyone to do something!

Everybody talks about what the Germans did to the Jews in WWII, but the dirty little secret the rest of Europe doesn't want to admit to, is that a lot of Europe were not exactly interested in "helping" the Jews any and were very interested in helping the National Socialists get rid of that Hebrew problem they had hated having around for hundreds of years.

Back in the day in the good old USA some of the more posh restaurants actually had signs saying no Jews...

The British pretty much had a plan for Palestine to pull out and let the Arabs massacre all the Jews before anybody could say anything.
It didn't turn out how the Arabs thought it would.

The Europeans hating the Jews and trying to kill them all off, was a thing that went on for centuries on and off depending on which ruler wanted to do a pogrom to steal some wealth.
 
Everybody talks about what the Germans did to the Jews in WWII, but the dirty little secret the rest of Europe doesn't want to admit to, is that a lot of Europe were not exactly interested in "helping" the Jews any and were very interested in helping the National Socialists get rid of that Hebrew problem they had hated having around for hundreds of years.

Back in the day in the good old USA some of the more posh restaurants actually had signs saying no Jews...

The British pretty much had a plan for Palestine to pull out and let the Arabs massacre all the Jews before anybody could say anything.
It didn't turn out how the Arabs thought it would.

The Europeans hating the Jews and trying to kill them all off, was a thing that went on for centuries on and off depending on which ruler wanted to do a pogrom to steal some wealth.
The most surprising thing about the Holocaust was that it happened in Germany, and not in France. In a lot of ways, Jews can trace "good" societies to live in back to Calivin, which is why the US hasn't always been perfect, but pretty fucking good, as have many of the Northern European countries, and bad societies to live in back to Catholicism and Luther. A lot of this goes back simply to the theological underpinnings of how the different strains see the Jews covenant with God.

And it wasn't just back in the day, when I was a kid, in the early 80s, in California, people wouldn't sell us a house because we were Jews, we couldn't go as guests, let alone members, at many clubs etc. And it wasn't just Jews. Asians too. Asians, at this point, get it worse than anybody with college admissions etc.

Not to get into the religion of it, but the most surprising, and disheartening, thing to me is how many Jews can get on board with all of the BLM, reparations, critical race bullshit. I mean, we are talking about a race (religion, whatever you want to call it) that lived, and died, under the words "his blood is on us and on our children." Why they want to involve themselves in what seems to me, like the exact same garbage perpetrated now against the many generational decendents of people who happen to be the same general skin tone of slave owners seems like playing with a very old fire.
 
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Hold on a fucking minute now,doesn't mean that you can't take pop shots at the mother fuckers from a pill box with a 338LM. even i can do that..:D
Well that rimfire to the knee thing they do there, does look fun.
 
Yes, you're right, the people I was thinking of was Fatah. Hamas is a political opponent of the PA.
Yeah, I mean they are all fucking garbage, but they destroy the lives of their people in slightly different ways. I do feel for the Palestinian people. It is hard to sometimes when you see them cheering the destruction, but they really have had the worst, most corrupt political leadership possible, and that leadership saw very early on how profitable it was to keep their people as poor as dirt.
 
No, I know you were joking. I joke all the time that everything is racist. I'm having a hard time determining if they are being serious about it or not.

Guys,

Are you being serious about being offended by my labeling?
 
Its interesting seeing the extreme views from both sides. On my social media, any celeb that is left leaning is shedding tears for palestine, and condemning Israel. Then its the exact opposite for the majority or conservative celebs I follow.

It does seem to be a never ending cycle....
 
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After what the ancient Egyptians and what the Germans did to the Jews in WW2....and once they got they're own State of Israel.....they've learned not to wait and see what happens next or ask for permission from anyone to do something!
What's still shocking to me is how many (a majority I'd venture) American brethren still are either leftists or hard-core leftists. I get that they are scared of nationalism; but at what point is the obvious...well...obvious? That's what baffles my mind. Even in Israel there is the left trying to "make peace" with these people. Truly, most leftists have an issue with cause/effect analysis....or maybe they don't.
 
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What's still shocking to me is how many (a majority I'd venture) American brethren still are either leftists or hard-core leftists. I get that they are scared of nationalism; but at what point is the obvious...well...obvious? That's what baffles my mind. Even in Israel there is the left trying to "make peace" with these people. Truly, most leftists have an issue with cause/effect analysis....or maybe they don't.
It's both difficult and easy to understand. See my post above for part of it. The other part is pretty simple. Jews are like most other groups in that the more secular and educated they are, the more liberal they are. Orthodox Jews are very conservative politically, conservative Jews (conservative being the name of a certain way of being a Jew) are a bit more politically mixed, but still more conservative than now. Reform Jews are extremely left wing, though no more so than the other non Jews in their peer groups. It just so happens that, for many reasons, a much higher percentage of Jews are reform than other. A lot of it is really the fault of the more traditional types of Jews. Christians make it much easier to be an orthodox Christian (meaning normal Evangelical) than do Orthodox Jews. It is very difficult to live that life. Additionally, people who were obviously Jewish didn't fare so well for 1700 or so years in Europe, so they migrated away from their more traditional stuff.

Now, that is not all of it, but it explains a much greater proportion than do some of the weird theories about this and that. I think you are right that there is some fear of nationalism, though Israel is arguably the most nationalist healthy country in the world. I keep hoping that they will see the light, and am often convinced of it, only to be disappointed.
 
It's both difficult and easy to understand. See my post above for part of it. The other part is pretty simple. Jews are like most other groups in that the more secular and educated they are, the more liberal they are. Orthodox Jews are very conservative politically, conservative Jews (conservative being the name of a certain way of being a Jew) are a bit more politically mixed, but still more conservative than now. Reform Jews are extremely left wing, though no more so than the other non Jews in their peer groups. It just so happens that, for many reasons, a much higher percentage of Jews are reform than other. A lot of it is really the fault of the more traditional types of Jews. Christians make it much easier to be an orthodox Christian (meaning normal Evangelical) than do Orthodox Jews. It is very difficult to live that life. Additionally, people who were obviously Jewish didn't fare so well for 1700 or so years in Europe, so they migrated away from their more traditional stuff.

Now, that is not all of it, but it explains a much greater proportion than do some of the weird theories about this and that. I think you are right that there is some fear of nationalism, though Israel is arguably the most nationalist healthy country in the world. I keep hoping that they will see the light, and am often convinced of it, only to be disappointed.
I guess when I mentioned nationalism, I was implying in the USA; I wasn't clear. Because they associate "right wing" with Nazi somehow I believe. However, they must have missed the class where Hitler took over completely through legal means and that it was a Socialist party who was indeed nationalist (obviously, right?) But country-first has been corrupted by the liberal propaganda machine (note, I do not view this a "press") into nationalism associated with the Nazi party.
 
I guess when I mentioned nationalism, I was implying in the USA; I wasn't clear. Because they associate "right wing" with Nazi somehow I believe. However, they must have missed the class where Hitler took over completely through legal means and that it was a Socialist party who was indeed nationalist (obviously, right?) But country-first has been corrupted by the liberal propaganda machine (note, I do not view this a "press") into nationalism associated with the Nazi party.
I'd argue that while they called themselves National Socialist, they were truly a third way economy, where private industry could be private as long as it worked for the regime. I'd actually argue that is a much better description of the Democrat party than is socialist or communist as well. But the Nazis did define themselves as third way, as did the fascists in Italy and Franco in Spain, and I actually think it is a good description. It isn't right wing, it is a triangle.

I did understand you meant in the USA, but it isn't just the USA, it is the US and Europe, and to answer the question, I think it is an artifact of the histories of those populations. Russian immigrant Jews, both to Israel and the US, tend to be much more comfortable with Nationalism, probably because they got fucked by its opponent, Communism. But at least in Israel, they are fervent nationalists. Some here too, depending on date of entry.
 
I guess when I mentioned nationalism, I was implying in the USA; I wasn't clear. Because they associate "right wing" with Nazi somehow I believe. However, they must have missed the class where Hitler took over completely through legal means and that it was a Socialist party who was indeed nationalist (obviously, right?) But country-first has been corrupted by the liberal propaganda machine (note, I do not view this a "press") into nationalism associated with the Nazi party.
I think it is also worth noting that, at this point in time, Jews are treated better in the more nationalist western countries than in the more socialist. It's probably time they recognize that.
 
I'd argue that while they called themselves National Socialist, they were truly a third way economy, where private industry could be private as long as it worked for the regime. I'd actually argue that is a much better description of the Democrat party than is socialist or communist as well. But the Nazis did define themselves as third way, as did the fascists in Italy and Franco in Spain, and I actually think it is a good description. It isn't right wing, it is a triangle.

I did understand you meant in the USA, but it isn't just the USA, it is the US and Europe, and to answer the question, I think it is an artifact of the histories of those populations. Russian immigrant Jews, both to Israel and the US, tend to be much more comfortable with Nationalism, probably because they got fucked by its opponent, Communism. But at least in Israel, they are fervent nationalists. Some here too, depending on date of entry.
That's a different take, and one I cannot argue against. It's kind of like my "political circle" that says one can go so far to the left they on the right, and so far to the right one is on the left. Not quite that simple; but the point is, at some point far left and super far right have very similar qualities.