Cyberattack Forces a Shutdown of a Top U.S. Pipeline (Published 2021)
The operator, Colonial Pipeline, said it had halted systems for its 5,500 miles of pipeline after being hit by a ransomware attack.
www.nytimes.com
Deadwood/Lead is always high prices for gasoline, an easy 20% more than Spearfish or Rapid. Premium in that area is also typically non-ethanol for the bikers, and that is always a higher cost because it isn't watered down with alcohol. I live in the Black Hills area and will tell you I'm paying $2.40 for 87 octane with ethanol. The little I pay attention to premium, honestly never buy it as I have nothing that gets any benefit from it, shows me one station to another can vary up to $.50/gal easy and is never advertised on their boards. Mostly right now nationwide gas prices are on the rise leading summer travel season, it happens every single year but we will see it more this year with all the cabin fever relief travel happening.Just got back from a week trip in Deadwood, S.D.. Paid $3.28-$3.48 per for Premium.
F'n commies. Mac
Watching what civilization will do to itself when a luxury is taken away.If an increase in fuel prices are the only major effects of a cyber attack on critical infrastructure, we should consider ourselves very lucky.
Next time, when a similar attack targets the power grid, or a large water treatment plant, or a few regional grocery distribution centers, or any number of other pieces of critical infrastructure, it probably won't be quite as amusing.
It's $2.60/gal or higher for 87 here in E TN. In Jan it was around $2.10/gal, so I guess I shouldn't complain too much. It just hurts a bit more when I fill up that 36gal tank on the truck.
I agree but I think you are missing the main thing I’m implying. Someone above gets it.If an increase in fuel prices are the only major effects of a cyber attack on critical infrastructure, we should consider ourselves very lucky.
Next time, when a similar attack targets the power grid, or a large water treatment plant, or a few regional grocery distribution centers, or any number of other pieces of critical infrastructure, it probably won't be quite as amusing.
2.85 in Sturgis, Rapid City and Spearfish yesterdayDeadwood/Lead is always high prices for gasoline, an easy 20% more than Spearfish or Rapid. Premium in that area is also typically non-ethanol for the bikers, and that is always a higher cost because it isn't watered down with alcohol. I live in the Black Hills area and will tell you I'm paying $2.40 for 87 octane with ethanol. The little I pay attention to premium, honestly never buy it as I have nothing that gets any benefit from it, shows me one station to another can vary up to $.50/gal easy and is never advertised on their boards. Mostly right now nationwide gas prices are on the rise leading summer travel season, it happens every single year but we will see it more this year with all the cabin fever relief travel happening.
The Colonial Pipeline has a massive effect on east coast gasoline prices, and is why fuel along the eastern seaboard is so cheap despite there being extremely little oil assets and refineries in the area. That their system got taken down by a ransomware attack is stunning, as it is every bit as critical infrastructure as the main power grid. We will never learn to take these infrastructure controlling systems offline and independent of the rest of the networks, and this shit will just continue to happen over and over because Big Tech selling this weak shit tells us and the companies in control of our infrastructures that they are safe and tested, and we can and should trust them.
Sound familiar?
I wouldn’t put it past ecoterrorists for a second.I doubt we will ever know the true people behind the cyber attack but I am going out on a limb and saying it was done by the same folks behind Biden.
That's ok. Have a feeling quite a few, besides myself, can relate.Yep, 36 gallon tank in a truck that demands high test gas. I usually don't let it get below a half of a tank. I am thinking of having a 1500 gallon tank installed at the homestead. Buy once, cry once, or at least every 3-4 months.
Wife's car demands high test too. Turbo charged 4 cylinder but need high test gas.
EDIT: This post shows how old I am. I don't think anyone but old cooters like me call it high test anymore. It's premium for all the youngins today.
Only time I use "high test" or premium for the youngins', is when towing the TT. F150 w/ 3.5EB (twin turbos).Yep, 36 gallon tank in a truck that demands high test gas. I usually don't let it get below a half of a tank. I am thinking of having a 1500 gallon tank installed at the homestead. Buy once, cry once, or at least every 3-4 months.
Wife's car demands high test too. Turbo charged 4 cylinder but need high test gas.
EDIT: This post shows how old I am. I don't think anyone but old cooters like me call it high test anymore. It's premium for all the youngins today.
Cyberattack Forces a Shutdown of a Top U.S. Pipeline (Published 2021)
The operator, Colonial Pipeline, said it had halted systems for its 5,500 miles of pipeline after being hit by a ransomware attack.www.nytimes.com
I agree but I think you are missing the main thing I’m implying. Someone above gets it.
No, I get exactly what you're implying; I just don't think it's a great working hypothesis.
Meanwhile:
Considering the existing shortage of drivers, any plan that attempts to address the looming shortage by using tanker trucks is not promising.
i have two f150 6cylinders work trucks, what is the deal with the valves on reg unleaded?Only time I use "high test" or premium for the youngins', is when towing the TT. F150 w/ 3.5EB (twin turbos).
No, I get exactly what you're implying; I just don't think it's a great working hypothesis.
Meanwhile:
Considering the existing shortage of drivers, any plan that attempts to address the looming shortage by using tanker trucks is not promising.
No idea, might check out the Ford F150 forum for some insight.i have two f150 6cylinders work trucks, what is the deal with the valves on reg unleaded?
i have two f150 6cylinders work trucks, what is the deal with the valves on reg unleaded?
My company is paying me huge money right now because of the shortage soWord is, some company is paying $14k a week for drivers out west. Not sure if that’s true or not but that’s what my dad told me this afternoon! Not sure how they can afford that as a company lol but hey...
And now shit starts to get real:
It's well beyond just fuel taxes. Your high cost at a remote station is a great example of delivery costs plus lack of competition, they can charge what they want and people will still pay it because it's the only game in the area. In Wyoming, I see this quite often as most towns have one or two stations, and those two stations will match each rise the other makes.Paid $5.49 last week for premium. An out of the way location where prices normally run a bit higher.
All the bitching aside, we still have far cheaper gas than much of the world outside of regions with significant oil production (middle east, russia, etc.). When I was working in Europe gas was generally 50% higher there and I talked to a friend in the Netherlands recently where gas is the equivalent of USD $7 - $8 per gallon .
The disparity between US states is mostly due to fuel taxes that theoretically are for road maintenance and improvements but with the push for infrastructure improvements I expect fuel taxes - and prices - will rise substantially.
True that , huge taxes on fuel in Europe (European Union requires EU countries to levy a minimum excise duty of US $1.53 per gallon) most of is in 5.4-7 USD/gallon price range right now but Euro folk also drive smaller cars( VW Golf vs F150 as the most popular car) , run more diesel cars ,and drive shorter distances.Paid $5.49 last week for premium. An out of the way location where prices normally run a bit higher.
All the bitching aside, we still have far cheaper gas than much of the world outside of regions with significant oil production (middle east, russia, etc.). When I was working in Europe gas was generally 50% higher there and I talked to a friend in the Netherlands recently where gas is the equivalent of USD $7 - $8 per gallon .
The disparity between US states is mostly due to fuel taxes that theoretically are for road maintenance and improvements but with the push for infrastructure improvements I expect fuel taxes - and prices - will rise substantially.
Good read - thanks! Not surprising though.It's well beyond just fuel taxes. Your high cost at a remote station is a great example of delivery costs plus lack of competition, they can charge what they want and people will still pay it because it's the only game in the area. In Wyoming, I see this quite often as most towns have one or two stations, and those two stations will match each rise the other makes.
Then you have locality to refineries. Places like the western Gulf coast always have at or very near national low prices, because hazmat/doubles/tank rated drivers make justifiably good money.
And then there's the hidden shit, beyond fuel taxes. Let's take the Gas Buddy heat map:
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You can clearly see many state lines there, ones you would think means the "who's who" of state based fuel taxes. Yet NM has lower fuel taxes than TX does, as well as lower sales tax, and is right off the Permian Basin, but we can easily see the state lines between the two. Colorado is a major producer in both crude and refined gasoline, has a similar fuel tax and lower sales tax than both NM and Texas, yet we see their state line pretty clearly as well. Clearly there's more to it than fuel taxes.
BTW, nobody taxes fuel as much as PA does, rate wise anyhow.
Gas Tax by State 2022 - Current State Diesel & Motor Fuel Tax Rates
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And then there's California and their own Cap and Trade program really driving up the cost of fuel to MAKE you not just want that hybrid or EV, but to NEED those cars. And all that was passed on the guise of "We're going to charge these oil companies for messing up our air, MAKE THEM PAY!!!", but we all know who it is paying for those programs, and who is getting the money from those taxes. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.co...-in-taxes-and-fees-for-gasoline-in-california
ETA: Doesn't that heat map make Cali look like the virus it is?
I had a diesel golf for a while - great car for negotiating tight streets in the old cities. Big cars just aren't a thing there and "pick-ups" are almost non existent. Germans like bigger cars though so you'd see large mercs and Jeep cherokees, for example, more often. Later I got an Audi A6 which was a very large car by local standards where I was (Swiss / Italian border).True that , huge taxes on fuel in Europe (European Union requires EU countries to levy a minimum excise duty of US $1.53 per gallon) most of US in 5.4-7 USD/gallon price range right now but Euro folk also drive smaller cars( VW Golf vs F150 as the most popular car) , run more diesel cars ,and drive shorter distances.