So you shoot ammo that the rifle was not designed/intended for, the results are bad (hardly unpredictable), and you are upset about it.
Perhaps you should take this conversation to arfcom or reddit.
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Perhaps you should take this conversation to arfcom or reddit.
Do you think there won’t be as many smart ass pricks over there, that’s about all I see over here. You people can’t open your mouth without being smart ass. Reminds me of them Facebook pussies, they’re all badasses over there sitting behind there computer. I guess that’s the way it is nowadays. What a shame
Yeah there's a lot of clowns.
For whatever reason, KAC is pretty divisive topic.
Good luck with your SR25. KAC makes nice rifles. But with any platform, you need to feed it the ammo it was intended to perform with. I have some bolt guns that are amazingly precise, but they probably won't shoot near to their capability with off the shelf hunting ammo. It just doesn't work that way.
Sounds like your rifle doesn't like certain projectiles that it may not be designed for This isn't anything out of the ordinary.
This thread was fun though.
This thread was fun though.
Can you clarify why you are looking to use these hunting bullets if you're just hunting hogs and you have other ammo performing so well? Are shooting off a tripod in a field with those guns or what?
It's been my experience that my 140gr 6.5 and 175gr 308 SMK loads and 175 FGMM will drop pretty much any hog if placed in the upper body. I mean, I took several last week with 55gr fmj out of a 13.5" gun at 10, 75 and 130m and 2 of those were ~300lbs. I usually shoot pigs at night or while out walking property, so I'm not big on the weight involved in dragging my LMT setup along, even with my 13.5" barrel.
It's been my experience that my 140gr 6.5 and 175gr 308 SMK loads and 175 FGMM will drop pretty much any hog if placed in the upper body. I mean, I took several last week with 55gr fmj out of a 13.5" gun at 10, 75 and 130m and 2 of those were ~300lbs. I usually shoot pigs at night or while out walking property, so I'm not big on the weight involved in dragging my LMT setup along, even with my 13.5" barrel.
Juggs and SMK’s kill critters, they just cost more than Winchester Power Points. Lol
I thought the KAC masterrace was beyond such petty concerns as financial constraints
Counties around me throw up the $5 per tail or ears bounty every so often. So just stock up the freezer with hog parts until they get more funding again. Theoretically, if everyone shoots as well as they claim to they should at least break even
.5 MOA all day? Does that mean if you're at the range all day, you'll get one .5 group?
$50-$60. So double the money to have a lot of fun and prove some people wrong. Sounds like a win win for the shooter...
only if you're one of the lucky ones that doesn't get a qc turd out of the box but you overall point is mostly correct and the law of diminishing returns is something every person should reacquaint themselves with. I liken the cheap crap (I include psa in that) to the bell curve. All AR platforms lay on that curve but where and for how long in each point is debatable.
They are just yanking your chain man. don't take it personal. my experience with KAC was excellent,however it would only shoot tight groups when i fed it hand loads. sold it and regret it.
Well if you're just going to shoot ammo that is 1.5MOA in almost any gun anyways and then be upset that it shoots....1.5MOA....I don't know what else to tell you.
I can't magically make a bulk 22LR round shoot sub 1MOA just because I want it to or because the rifle is 'match grade'.
Also, most guys saying their semi is 1.5-2.5MOA are both wrong and right at the same time. Between the extended lock time, double recoil impulse and the variables that can be added from a mag fed round that is slammed into the chamber by a piece of flying mass, well, its nowhere as easy as shooting a bolt gun and it will exploit everything it can over a heavier rifle, fed 1 at a time in a much more stable system with about half of the lock time.
But you go shoot your tirdy tirdy.
If you are having to buy ammo at this point just to shoot the challenge...you prepped wrong.
Should have the ammo stacked deep already.
Yes Match ammo will shoot better in MOST any rifle than hunting ammo.
That is the entire point of match ammo, better accuracy at an increased cost.
But can you do it at 800yds?
Purpose-built large frame rifles are bolt gun accurate, my custom LaRue's with Bartlein Barrels and hand loads are sub 1/2.
Fucking hell. You got it man. This past season, I drew a damn good elk tag. I went over to a local reloading shop, looking for some 140 ELD's. Gentleman (a friend of mine, who is also one of these older, curmudgeonly types) asked me if I drew any tags, so I told him about the elk. He asked, "So you think you're gonna kill that big ol' critter with a target bullet?"
I said, "No. I know I am going to kill that big ol' critter with a target bullet."
He told me his Hornady Rep had told him that they never advise folks to use their ELD M's to hunt with.
I asked him, "Doesn't the military use target bullets against humans all the time?" He just paused and said, "I guess so."
Suffice to say, I shot a great bull at 360 with a 147 ELD-M right into both lungs. No further shooting was necessary.
On top of that, 139gr Lapua Scenars also kill the shit out of some large game too! I shot 5 hogs in TX a few years back, all with a .260, all one shot, and have killed a number of deer with it as well. I have zero complaints.
No, I probably shouldn’t have put all day long. The gun is capable of.5 to .6 though, I believe. I shot several 3 round groups and measured it with a tape measure and the groups were 1/2” to 5/8”. Of course when I am trying to sight in a scope or seeing how a certain ammo performs I use sandbags and/or a bipod, which eliminates a lot of error.
Nice. Who did the barrel work? I’ve got a shot-out OBR with a 2-digit S/N that Id love to be a 6.5CM.
I agree with that somewhat, I dropped a 160” whitetail in his tracks at 125 yards with Lapua 185 FMJ. But it hit him right in the heart, lucky obviously because I can’t see his organs. But I don’t like the idea of using the FMJ, would suck to hit a monster buck and him run away and not find him. I was thinking of selling the sr 25 and getting a precision bolt gun like a tacops or surgeon or AI but it sounds like I may be wasting money there too if my problem is that the (hunting bullets) are the problem. They may not be sub-moa in a bolt gun either
I use Compass Lake and Craddock precision, Bartlein 6.5/ 8 Twist are is very short supply right now. If you need help with your OBR let me know, I'm very familiar with unfucking LaRue rifles.
How is that cherry picking? Shoot three rounds and walk to the target and check it out while the barrel cools down a little, then adjust your scope and shoot three more. Should I shoot half a box, or a full box at a time to not be cheating. Sounds silly
3rds isn't a group, it's cherry picking
If your barrel needs to cool down after three rounds get a better barrel
Since you asked, five rounds is the standard...
Should be easy for you and your half MOA rig Mr. All-day
Since you asked, five rounds is the standard...
Should be easy for you and your half MOA rig Mr. All-day
This is where you have to explain it for those with lower IQ's.
The US military does not care about clean or ethical Kills of game animals. It cares about neutralizing a target/threat. Now that can be wounding it or destroying it but either way it puts it out of the fight. Making hits at longer range is easier with a target bullet for the obvious reasons. If you need that to be explained then maybe the IQ level is lower than originally thought.
Elk is not Deer. Elk is not a Hog. Its not a Human. There are countless stories of good solid hits with an idiot using a target bullet and wounding and losing the animal. Hell there are plenty who have made solid hits with Hunting bullets and still lost the animal. They are big strong animals and are not easy to kill like a thin skinned deer. A bullet fragmenting on a deer is not an issue because they don't have inches or thick hide, muscle, and bone before getting to the sweet spot. Yes people have reported success with target bullets like 215 berger but for some reason people don't run on the net to brag about their shitty shots or missed animals the way they do their success. If you actually live in an area with lots of elk hunters, its obvious what works and what is marginal. Target bullets on elk is fucking retarded and anyone using them is a moron. I have a few friends who have hunted elk their entire lives and a few who are guides and have probally killed more Elk than most here have seen in a lifetime. They have standards for caliber and bullets for a reason. Bad hits and lost animals mean lost money. Getting lucky does not mean its a wise choise. Out of 10 or 100 shots, what is an acceptable success rate for a bullet? 50%? 60? 80?. To spend all that money and time on a tag and hunt to be a cheap fuck using a bullet that is .30 cents less tells you all you need to know about the critical thinking ability they clearly do not possess.
Everything you just said, just showed everyone your intelligence level! Every sentence was more ignorant than the one before
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You must have all of this scientific ballistic data from all of your institutional testing, right? LMAO!!
You should change your handle to “The Hide Testing Guy” or something sweet like it.
In all seriousness, new guy, your opinion and credibility here are shot. You can drop the names of KAC dudes from now until fucking doomsday, but that will never stop most of us from knowing you’re simply full of shit.
I’ll keep schwacking shit with target bullets, and you can continue douching the sand out, or call PETA, maybe they’ll give a fuck about your crying.
What are you even talking about? My credibility? Dropping names of kac dudes? Also that I’m full of shit, why? I just asked the question if these sr 25s would not shoot hunting ammo better than 1.5 to 2 moa accuracy. Sounds like you just enjoy being a cock sucker, well congratulations because you are.
FYI, that wasn’t directed at you
He quoted a different guy
Thread is a little testy.
Sounds like the consensus is that the hunting ammo would probably shoot close to the same in any semi auto rifle you choose.
On another note… and Im sure you know, but the SR25 is battle rifle that does not have a match chamber. Purposely designed to give it the best chance of auto loading in adverse, dirty, sandy conditions. I have a GAP10 and would not expect it to perform the same as an SR25. It’s accurate, but I don’t think it would shoot hunting ammo well either.
And FWIW, I’ve been on the list for an sr25 for over a year.
He quoted a different guy
Thread is a little testy.
Sounds like the consensus is that the hunting ammo would probably shoot close to the same in any semi auto rifle you choose.
On another note… and Im sure you know, but the SR25 is battle rifle that does not have a match chamber. Purposely designed to give it the best chance of auto loading in adverse, dirty, sandy conditions. I have a GAP10 and would not expect it to perform the same as an SR25. It’s accurate, but I don’t think it would shoot hunting ammo well either.
And FWIW, I’ve been on the list for an sr25 for over a year.
I spread all the tissues out and laid in a comfy couch and fluffed the pillows and made sure my phone is charged and found the earbuds and there STILL isn’t a fresh video out with .5” groups? From somebody??
Gdamnit. $65 worth of ammo. $12k KAC. This dude does not abide.
Gdamnit. $65 worth of ammo. $12k KAC. This dude does not abide.
Typically, when a member quotes another member and then comments on that quote, the comment is intended as a response to said quote.
DorkingWhileMounting knew my response was for him, but allowed you to believe you were the intended recipient, instead of standing up and telling you, “that was directed at me.”
I cannot remember the last time I was labeled a cock sucker, but since you believe you were the disparaged party in our non-interaction, I’ll forgive you.
Maybe you can teach me to shoot like shit, like you do. I’d like to see the bunch of fucking retards that would pay you to teach them to shoot 1.5 moa!
I especially liked the pictures of your cobbled up piece of shit looking guns that you posted that your obviously proud of! I’ve got waaay better rifles than you, maybe that’s why you’re struggling for sub-moa!! 
I especially liked the pictures of your cobbled up piece of shit looking guns that you posted that your obviously proud of! I’ve got waaay better rifles than you, maybe that’s why you’re struggling for sub-moa!! Sorry then, guess I’m just tired of getting trashed for asking a question. I just tried to delete the post but doesn’t look like I can, so guess I’ll just stay away from this site from now on.
Maybe you can teach me to shoot like shit, like you do. I’d like to see the bunch of fucking retards that would pay you to teach them to shoot 1.5 moa!
What are you like 12!??
I'll tell you what I'll bump it up to $500.00, you film yourself shooting a 100 yard 6x5 at .5 MOA or less with your SR25 I'll pay you $500.00!!
@D Ranch How can you not take this deal??
Because he's just some dumb kid who's full of shit and everyone knows it.
What is that? Nice rifle and nice shooting for sure
Seekins SP10 in 6.5CM. She makes shooting a Gasser easy and runs like a top. That’s two separate outings on the same target.
I’ll get it back out on paper sometime soon and post up one of those 6x5 master race targets. I mostly just shoot steel now but it’s fun to see how she prints.
I’ll get it back out on paper sometime soon and post up one of those 6x5 master race targets. I mostly just shoot steel now but it’s fun to see how she prints.
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that last SR25 thread was gold..
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