L3i New "Stinger" Barreled action

[BowChamp]

I like this take on it.

Crowd funding is definitely taking money without a proven production quality product in existence. We will not undertake in this practice, as it is assuming too much risk.

Once a viable production level product has been produced and full production is underway then I say we move to a pre-order situation. Pre-Orders are a necessary evil in many cases for smaller companies undertaking aggressive projects. I think they should be done in a responsible manner to minimize risk to both customers and the business.

Then you have back-orders for
When the product that is already on the market and in public hands is ordered during a production cycle.

We have had a ton of people reach out wanting to pre-order and trust me, it would help us breathe easier knowing the revenue streams are flowing in, however we are not comfortable taking any money until we are 100% confident we can deliver a quality product in a reasonable time frame to our customers. We are only initially manufacturing 200 to begin with to minimize our exposure, once those sell we will immediately begin the next production cycle. I am throwing ideas on how to make the initial 200 foundational costumers get a special token of our appreciation. Ideas are welcome (challenge coin, commemorative magazine etc…)

I wouldn't waste time with a special token. Just put all your effort into making sure this barreled action is 100% functional, that would be token enough.

Really looking forward to seeing how they shoot!!

 

[Mechdesigner]

Got our action back from DLC, runs super smooth!!!

 

[TubbyT223]

I like this take on it.

Crowd funding is definitely taking money without a proven production quality product in existence. We will not undertake in this practice, as it is assuming too much risk.

Once a viable production level product has been produced and full production is underway then I say we move to a pre-order situation. Pre-Orders are a necessary evil in many cases for smaller companies undertaking aggressive projects. I think they should be done in a responsible manner to minimize risk to both customers and the business.

Then you have back-orders for
When the product that is already on the market and in public hands is ordered during a production cycle.

We have had a ton of people reach out wanting to pre-order and trust me, it would help us breathe easier knowing the revenue streams are flowing in, however we are not comfortable taking any money until we are 100% confident we can deliver a quality product in a reasonable time frame to our customers. We are only initially manufacturing 200 to begin with to minimize our exposure, once those sell we will immediately begin the next production cycle. I am throwing ideas on how to make the initial 200 foundational costumers get a special token of our appreciation. Ideas are welcome (challenge coin, commemorative magazine etc…)

Just curious due to the manufacturing side. How fast is it to spin up 200?

 

[Mechdesigner]

Just curious due to the manufacturing side. How fast is it to spin up 200?

With the designs nailed down it is about a 4 month cycle. I hope to start staggering my manufacturing cycles so I never go more that far between having stock on hand.

 

[TubbyT223]

With the designs nailed down it is about a 4 month cycle. I hope to start staggering my manufacturing cycles so I never go more that far between having stock on hand.

That’s not terrible. It’s neat to see all the machining and production side. You’re doing everything right. It’s exciting hopefully I’ll be able to snag one of the first run.

 

[Thesepaperwings]

That’s not terrible. It’s neat to see all the machining and production side. You’re doing everything right. It’s exciting hopefully I’ll be able to snag one of the first run.

Unofficially there's a pile of bodies done, blanks ready and 90% of the bolt parts done. We don't want to overcommit to a date but I think people would be happy with how close the production batch is to being completed.

 

[LuvDog]

Unofficially there's a pile of bodies done, blanks ready and 90% of the bolt parts done. We don't want to overcommit to a date but I think people would be happy with how close the production batch is to being completed.

RH only or did any LH sneak in to the initial batch?

 

[68hoyt]

You could do a special serial number for the first 200

 

[Mechdesigner]

RH only or did any LH sneak in to the initial batch?

All RH on the first batch

 

[Mechdesigner]

You could do a special serial number for the first 200

Our serial numbers are already registered in our variance with the ATF.

 

[Shootin25]

@Mechdesigner any chance there will be 10rd Stinger billet mags to accompany the barreled action release? You know… for us Kalifornia folks.. or a blocked mag….

 

[Mechdesigner]

We are going to try our best to get them out by then! The design is ready to go.

 

[Shootin25]

We are going to try our best to get them out by then! The design is ready to go.

Very Noice ! ..

 

[Masojoh]

Any chance you guys will be at NRL22 Nationals? Would be awesome to see this in person.

 

[Mechdesigner]

Ran the Stinger at a match on Saturday, it ran great! Need to dial down the tensioner pressure just a hair to get the feeding a touch smoother but that is a simple adjustment. Ended up cleaning 4/8 stages with 10 shots down on the match. I am really excited on the progress we made!

 

[Mechdesigner]

I have heard some comments about the Stinger Action being a “variance” of the current PTG 40X repeater. I can ensure everyone that is not the case. Both actions share the same common ancestor however we went a different route on every single component. The Stinger is not a 40X conversion. It was redesigned to be a reliable repeater. We kept the design simple and made sure it was well executed. Every component in the Stinger action is unique to us, we left nothing untouched. Our goal was to bring to market a simple, yet reliable and well polished 700 platform action to market at a fair price point that we could develop as part of our complete rifle ecosystem. We have plans that go beyond this initial project but currently this is where our focus lies. I have included some examples of components in our action versus current 40X offerings.