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Go study retail arbitrage. Spend a few weeks. There are courses you can pay for where someone else teaches you—if you dont want to spend the time.
Without hundreds of millions in funds to offset the transaction costs, if you don't mind sharing, where are you finding arbitrage opportunities?

Are you aware of any examples of the same asset being priced differently in different markets such that an investor with $100k or less for the investment could profit by buying the asset in the exchange where it is priced lower and selling the asset in the exchange where it is priced higher?

I know that there are sometimes "simple" arbitrage opportunities where the same asset is priced differently in different markets but in general, this "arbitrage opportunity" has an extremely short duration and people that rent huge rooms full of "supercomputers" with software programs designed to take advantage of the price difference in different exchanges
for the same asset and the prices match before most "individual" investors could ever even think about trading on that opportunity.

I know for investment nerds, they sometimes use the term "arbitrage" for much more complicated or sophisticated techniques like maybe an "arbitrage butterfly spread" but I don't consider that true arbitrage in the sense that it's not truly a zero risk trade.
 
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Go study retail arbitrage. Spend a few weeks. There are courses you can pay for where someone else teaches you—if you dont want to spend the time.
My buddy makes a very good living doing this actually, and I’ve done similar things on the side. This was new to me though that there is a “hidden” not advertised price, even on the item in store. The Cabelas employees were shocked and thought it was a glitch.
 
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Yes. It’s not blind luck.

There is a segment of the population that earns their living this way. Thats how items end up on Ebay, and Amazon. Sometimes Facebook and forums.
Never mind, thought this was a different thread about the stock market. I have zero interest in and don't know anything about "retail" arbitrage so ignore my ramblings haha.
 

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Without hundreds of millions in funds to offset the transaction costs, if you don't mind sharing, where are you finding arbitrage opportunities?

Are you aware of any examples of the same asset being priced differently in different markets such that an investor with $100k or less for the investment could profit by buying the asset in the exchange where it is priced lower and selling the asset in the exchange where it is priced higher?

I know that there are sometimes "simple" arbitrage opportunities where the same asset is priced differently in different markets but in general, this "arbitrage opportunity" has an extremely short duration and people that rent huge rooms full of "supercomputers" with software programs designed to take advantage of the price difference in different exchanges
for the same asset and the prices match before most "individual" investors could ever even think about trading on that opportunity.

I know for investment nerds, they sometimes use the term "arbitrage" for much more complicated or sophisticated techniques like maybe an "arbitrage butterfly spread" but I don't consider that true arbitrage in the sense that it's not truly a zero risk trade.
It’s called “retail arbitrage” if you google it for those looking to learn.

The more classical form—which you are describing, is obviously not applicable.

Fundamentally it is the same from a moving parts perspective. Albeit on a smaller scale.

The only reason this was made public was because it was a dog of sorts. Sale price + sales tax+ outbound shipping= too little profit potential because of Leupold’s leo/military discounted price. Assuming it was sold at just under to slightly over that mfg direct discount price. Which seems to be the case.

Compared to the Spotter deal I referenced earlier where aquisition costs were $275 otd avg and resale were $750 plus shipping. The Sig Thermal deal is similar.

Retailers everywhere do this. Quietly clearance things out. And the retail arbitrage people come snag them up instantly. Those brands miss the clearance or below MAP sales Issues. You standing next to the guy at Home Depot with the cart full of Dewalt leaf blowers dont feel slighted. More importantly you dont know to then go back to the customer service desk and ask for the difference since it is now “on sale” even though you just bought it for full price.

There are services you can pay to join and be a part of. They use computers to compare current prices to that retailers archived prices. Any reductions below a preset percentage trigger automatic alerts for you to manually review.
 

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You got to understand. Its not a hidden price persay. Its a markdown that occured in store only. And after the labels were printed. Some stores send a list for manual repricing. Sometimes they dont do anything and wait for the retail arbitrage people to sort it out for them. Which keeps employees from buying them or hiding the actual stock in store until they get paid again.

Walmart especially is NOTORIOUS for this. Employees get the lists and hide the actual merchandise EVERYWHERE in the store. Just so they can later buy it. Or until they can send someone to buy it for them—as some store locations now forbid employees from buying clearance merchandise.
 
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You got to understand. Its not a hidden price persay. Its a markdown that occured in store only. And after the labels were printed. Some stores send a list for manual repricing. Sometimes they dont do anything and wait for the retail arbitrage people to sort it out for them. Which keeps employees from buying them or hiding the actual stock in store until they get paid again.

Walmart especially is NOTORIOUS for this. Employees get the lists and hide the actual merchandise EVERYWHERE in the store. Just so they can later buy it. Or until they can send someone to buy it for them—as some store locations now forbid employees from buying clearance merchandise.
Interesting, thanks for the insights. Seems like it’s a treasure hunt by design, and we need to stick together to share the wealth when we ID some!
 

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You got to understand. Its not a hidden price persay. Its a markdown that occured in store only. And after the labels were printed. Some stores send a list for manual repricing. Sometimes they dont do anything and wait for the retail arbitrage people to sort it out for them. Which keeps employees from buying them or hiding the actual stock in store until they get paid again.

Walmart especially is NOTORIOUS for this. Employees get the lists and hide the actual merchandise EVERYWHERE in the store. Just so they can later buy it. Or until they can send someone to buy it for them—as some store locations now forbid employees from buying clearance merchandise.
I was told you can order to a store and when you pickup return them and they will honor sale price. Worst case I just return them if they wont.
 
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I was told you can order to a store and when you pickup return them and they will honor sale price. Worst case I just return them if they wont.
hmmm well I plan to head to the store tomorrow or Thursday with my scope to see if they will honor it. I still have one shipping that was purchased at the store for the sale price as well so if I return this one its no loss.
 

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You got to understand. Its not a hidden price persay. Its a markdown that occured in store only. And after the labels were printed. Some stores send a list for manual repricing. Sometimes they dont do anything and wait for the retail arbitrage people to sort it out for them. Which keeps employees from buying them or hiding the actual stock in store until they get paid again.

Walmart especially is NOTORIOUS for this. Employees get the lists and hide the actual merchandise EVERYWHERE in the store. Just so they can later buy it. Or until they can send someone to buy it for them—as some store locations now forbid employees from buying clearance merchandise.
Yeah, I thought I was in the stock market thread and totally missed the retail part. It's not my thing as I enjoy my "day" jobs but I know a lot of people have started doing that. I don't think it's necessarily "arbitrage" in that there's zero risk but it's a catchy name at least lol.
 

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hmmm well I plan to head to the store tomorrow or Thursday with my scope to see if they will honor it. I still have one shipping that was purchased at the store for the sale price as well so if I return this one its no loss.
they let you buy one on back orde?
 

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Just saw it was an nxs or something :(. You know what we're all not thinking about? Cabelas charged 1800 bucks for the mk5 3.6-18 tmr for the longest time and sold who knows how many at that price. That's one hell of a mark up. They can let the rest of their stock go at 899 and still come out way ahead id bet. Not like they're losing anything on this excerpt for inventory
 

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Just saw it was an nxs or something :(. You know what we're all not thinking about? Cabelas charged 1800 bucks for the mk5 3.6-18 tmr for the longest time and sold who knows how many at that price. That's one hell of a mark up. They can let the rest of their stock go at 899 and still come out way ahead id bet. Not like they're losing anything on this excerpt for inventory
One of the reasons why Leupold is So popular is their large mark-up and and strict map pricing. Exaggerated MSRP on their site makes for a better looking price on the shelf.

Their sales model is pro retailer, which gets them in more locations which builds more sales.

So yes, they have made a ton selling these scopes and at this price I would imagine still have a small margin built in.
 
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they let you buy one on back order?
I bought it Saturday morning, on a hope I could get the sale price when I went in the store. It looks like they are out of stock online now though for this model, at least according to their app.
 

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I bought it Saturday morning, on a hope I could get the sale price when I went in the store. It looks like they are out of stock online now though for this model, at least according to their app.
I was thinking that you ordered it at the counter for 899
 

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Bohoo, it's capitalism, not socialism.
Not really, it is manipulating the market. And it is an asshole move. Just like the turds that drove to every store buying up sanitizer and TP just to try and fuck their neighbor or the gas station that jacks up the price during a hurricane
 

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While I understand you point of view I don't necessarily agree 100%. TP, sanitizer, paper towels, lysol, clorox are all things that are a necessity especially during a pandemic that we are going through on this planet. A scope is not a necessity but a luxury and to be honest fair game. Someone wants to buy 6 scopes and try and sell them for a profit, hey they got there first and waiting in line or drove 4 hours to do this. It sucks when you are also trying to enjoy a sweet deal but sometimes thats how the cookie 🍪 crumbles. I'm happy to see though how many members on the hide went out of their way to help each other by driving and picking up a scope or two and only sell them for $100 over cost for their time which is fair.
Not really, it is manipulating the market. And it is an asshole move. Just like the turds that drove to every store buying up sanitizer and TP just to try and fuck their neighbor or the gas station that jacks up the price during a hurricane
 

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Not really, it is manipulating the market. And it is an asshole move. Just like the turds that drove to every store buying up sanitizer and TP just to try and fuck their neighbor or the gas station that jacks up the price during a hurricane
This analogy Is garbage

at very best it’s akin to someone buying all the half off bounty at Harris yeeter in a town with a Walmart, a Kroger and a target and then selling it on eBay for less than the normal store price not during a pandemic.
 

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Price gouging is all about hurt feels when an enterprising individual makes a profit versus the corporations who do it day in and day out....

No body even truly needs hand sanitizer—yet some act like its up there with air and water.
 
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Price gouging is all about hurt feels when an enterprising individual makes a profit versus the corporations who do it day in and day out....

No body even truly needs hand sanitizer—yet some act like its up there with air and water.
Um I do.. have you seen some of the nasty houses around!!!

Kasey
 

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Price gouging is all about hurt feels when an enterprising individual makes a profit versus the corporations who do it day in and day out....

No body even truly needs hand sanitizer—yet some act like its up there with air and water.
I agree. Just for fun my wife and I listed a 2 roll pack of toilet paper on eBay during the initial craze, bidding started at $.01 plus shipping. It sold for over $40. Our account then blew up with hate mail from random people saying how dare we take advantage of the situation, as if we made people buy it instead of waiting a few days for Target to restock. Kinda goes to show how isolated most people are to the reality of the word “necessity”.
 

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Soo anybody have any tips on how I can get my local Cabelas to honor the flash sale price of the Mk5 HD that I ordered online? It arrived this morning and I plan to head there later today.
 

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Soo anybody have any tips on how I can get my local Cabelas to honor the flash sale price of the Mk5 HD that I ordered online? It arrived this morning and I plan to head there later today.
pickup, pay. then head over to customer service to have them honor the sale price if not return it and walk away.
 

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Here's a way to get the sale price with an online order :
You have to go to Cabelas or bass pro in person. Use the kiosk to order the item ( has to show in stock online which the mk5 currently doesn't but the vx6 does)
Grab the stand for the scope youre trying to buy from the display case and scan it to show sale price in store. Manager can then override the online price. If you're military, make sure to create a mil account with your Cabelas account first to make applying the 5% easier. You still pay sales tax but they'll ship for free to your house. Just did it today with the vx6
 

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Was at the Cabelas at Gainesville VA Saturday and they were out of stock with no idea if there were more inbound. The sales person told me the sale was through July 8th. ???
 

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The real question is to run the lens shade or not.
Do people use sunshades cuz they come with scopes? Cuz they think it looks more “operator”?
I have owned Kahles, Nightforce, Vortex, ZCO, and Leupold and I just haven’t found a reason to keep them on my scope. Now I do use scope caps on my rifles for dust protection as well as drop protection. Maybe I don’t shoot enough into sun to see the benefits or maybe I just need to play with one at the range to see if I can tell a difference.
 
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A little dial and water is better than that hand sanitizer.
Dial is the bomb, my go to for sure. Managed to clean 75w-90 hypoid gear oil off of me many times, and that is saying something for those who know how nasty that oil is.
 

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I don't typically like sunshades, but I installed it as shown post #290. For scale that is an 18" barrel.
This is a new build with new optic. I'll be shooting at the short 50-300 range Friday & it faces directly into the sun. Since reticle is not illuminated I'd rather have it and not need it.
The Mark 5 in shorty form is much sexier IMO, but even with shade installed it's not that long.
 

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Was at Bass Pro just an hour ago. They were out of stock and the sale ended last night at midnight according to the sales rep.
 

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So this is how to get online matched to instore.

Buy online. Go pickup in store. Go to customer service. Tell them you messed up and need to put it on a different credit card. Say “wife” “furious” “in trouble”. They will return it. Then will ask for the new card. When they rescan it they will call for the manager. Because now its a LOT cheaper.

When the manager shows up if they give you a hard time tell them its on sale in store. Seems to be bs that I should have to pay more than the sale price. Often times the manager wont say anything and will already be hip to whats happening. Be prepared for eat dog shit looks.

This is easier if you live near a second store. Then you bring it to that one and talk shit about how the first store ripped you off by ignoring the sale price.
 
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