Mk 13 Mod 0 stock
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Certificates that are being mailed out to people, and I've verified the authenticity of each stock. I still have 8 more stocks to look at and issue certificates for. Pretty crazy that another 18+ original Mk13 McMillan stocks have surfaced! I'll post a photo of the next 8 certificates when I'm done with them.This means that I only have about 20 unserialized certificates left to match up with original Mk13 McMillan stocks. As per usual, those will all be first come first served. I don't charge a single penny for these certificates (I even pay to have the certificates shipped to the stock owners), and they can add thousands of dollars in value to each original stock!
Thanks again to everyone who reached out to me with a stock from this newly discovered batch! I'm extremely happy to be able to help all of you out!
Thanks again to everyone who reached out to me with a stock from this newly discovered batch! I'm extremely happy to be able to help all of you out!
Little bit of progress being made on the latest Mk13 project. Huge thanks to @USMCSGT0331 for the extremely generous help with the cert. Truly appreciated.
Now back to scrounging for parts.
Now back to scrounging for parts.
Finished up some tweaking on my mod 3 today to get it a little closer to “clone correct”. Only other thing is the collar was installed with the latch cuts horizontal instead of vertically for some reason. I’m not sure if it can be rotated or not. Either way I’m super happy with it.
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Did you purchase one of the pre-made barrel journals to install on the barrel? Or did you get a barrel complete from @crazynoto? I've seen this happen before with the loose barrel journals that have the gate latches channels pre-cut into the journal. It looks like the barrel was installed on your receiver, the gunsmith screwed on a loose barrel journal, and then just said "good enough."
The crazynoto barrels don't have the gate latch cuts in them, so a gunsmith installs the barrel like normal, then mounts the barreled action into a jig, and then cuts the vertical gate latches. Hell, even just flipping the barreled action upside-down to rest on the top picatinny rail would give a pretty good vertical alignment for the gate latch cuts. If the barrel was already installed and the gunsmith was fitted a pre-made pre-cut loose barrel journal, then he should have timed the barrel journal cuts vertically to the receiver.
The point is that a gunsmith should NEVER allow a barrel to leave his shop like that, they're very easy to time, no matter which way the journal was added to the barrel. I would have immediately sent the rifle back to have the barrel timed properly. This can be a lesson for other cloners, NEVER accept sub-par work from a gunsmith. This was very easy to prevent, and it's very easy to fix. It should have never left the shop looking like this.
Unfortunately, if your gunsmith marked the sides of the barrel with a caliber or other information, the markings will now be off if the barrel is turned and timed for your gate latch. So, you can easily have a gunsmith fix the problem, but if the barrel is marked horizontally as it sides now, the gunsmith will also have to fix the markings.
There's a few ways to do this, either put the barrel on a lathe and turn down the back end to get rid of the markings, and then blend that turned down area into the rest of the barrel to keep the same profile. Or the markings can be spot welded and cleaned up. The latter will show through bluing and parkerizing, and can be seen in raw steel. But it won't matter if you powder coat or paint the barrel. The gunsmith will have to be extremely careful to take his time spot welding the markings if you go this route because the high heat can ruin the barrels tempering.
I hope this information helps and I hope that you can get it fixed. It doesn't take a crazy amount of rounds to burn out a .300WM barrel. So, shoot the shit out of that barrel, order a new Mod 3 barrel from crazynoto WITHOUT the pre-cut gate latch channels, and then have a different gunsmith install the new barrel and properly do the vertical gate latch cuts.
I am actually planning another run of mk13 mod 3 barrels. I am only planning on doing this if I get at least 20 requests with deposits to proceed (due to the amount of work to manufacture / modify the barrels).
This time a new blank will be utilized that I will supply. Previously I had issues with the variation of the taper of the barrel blanks that were customer supplied to me, only 50% - 60% of the barrels were able to be modified properly to my standards. Additionally I had to continuously adjust the lathe settings per barrel to find the "sweet spot" to complete the modification, this adde hours to each individual barrel set up.
I will be ordering custom blanks that will have a max material condition to properly complete the modification. The barrel will be delivered to you with the collar installed and suppressor profiling complete, and extra material length on the breach / crown ends for your gunsmith. The barrels will have NO chambering, breach end threading, gate latch cuts, alignment pin, or muzzle crown this is up to you or your gunsmith to complete during the building process.
It is looking like the completed price for the barrels will be right around $1k , I will be collecting a $450 deposit each barrel ordered.
Lilja's lead time for the barrel blanks is 10-12 weeks after I take delivery my lead time will be 4-6 weeks for the modifications, hopefully these lead times will be slightly shorter and not slightly longer.
Please PM me with if you are interested with the subject "MK13 mod 3 barrel" and your basic information (name phone number), and quantity. If you PM'd me before please send another PM with that information.
I will not be collecting any deposits unless there is enough interest, I will post a running tally of who is interested (screen name and qty) so we can keep track to make sure no one is accidentally missed and that the quantities are correct. If you decide you are no longer interested please PM me and I will remove you from the list.
Please keep in mind this is a side hobby in addition to my profession and it may take me 24-48 hours to respond to PM's and update the list. If anyone has any additional questions please feel free to reach out to me. So we don't clutter up this thread I will start a new one for the barrel pre order if I receive enough interest/ PM's.
Thanks
This time a new blank will be utilized that I will supply. Previously I had issues with the variation of the taper of the barrel blanks that were customer supplied to me, only 50% - 60% of the barrels were able to be modified properly to my standards. Additionally I had to continuously adjust the lathe settings per barrel to find the "sweet spot" to complete the modification, this adde hours to each individual barrel set up.
I will be ordering custom blanks that will have a max material condition to properly complete the modification. The barrel will be delivered to you with the collar installed and suppressor profiling complete, and extra material length on the breach / crown ends for your gunsmith. The barrels will have NO chambering, breach end threading, gate latch cuts, alignment pin, or muzzle crown this is up to you or your gunsmith to complete during the building process.
It is looking like the completed price for the barrels will be right around $1k , I will be collecting a $450 deposit each barrel ordered.
Lilja's lead time for the barrel blanks is 10-12 weeks after I take delivery my lead time will be 4-6 weeks for the modifications, hopefully these lead times will be slightly shorter and not slightly longer.
Please PM me with if you are interested with the subject "MK13 mod 3 barrel" and your basic information (name phone number), and quantity. If you PM'd me before please send another PM with that information.
I will not be collecting any deposits unless there is enough interest, I will post a running tally of who is interested (screen name and qty) so we can keep track to make sure no one is accidentally missed and that the quantities are correct. If you decide you are no longer interested please PM me and I will remove you from the list.
Please keep in mind this is a side hobby in addition to my profession and it may take me 24-48 hours to respond to PM's and update the list. If anyone has any additional questions please feel free to reach out to me. So we don't clutter up this thread I will start a new one for the barrel pre order if I receive enough interest/ PM's.
Thanks
Second picture below is a new barrel compared to an original take off. All dimensions were taken from the original barrel and an original blue print.
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have one of these on my mk13-3 and can attest to the quality. If you want the most historically accurate mk13-3 - this is 100% the route you want to take.
Just like @ilikebmxbikes said in his post above, these are the absolute best Mk13 Mod 3 barrels that collectors/cloners can possibly get! If any of you need a Mod 3 barrel, contact @crazynoto asap and get one the list. Who knows if this will be the last run or not, so grab 1 or 2 while you still can!
If you already have a built rifle, it's still a good idea to get in on this deal and pick up an extra barrel. It's pretty easy to shoot out a .300WM barrel, so having a spare barrel or two on hand and ready to go is a great backup option to have. And if this turns out to be the last run of these barrels, any loose barrels will drastically increase in price over the coming years. Just a few other things to think about.
It was extremely surprising when @crazynoto found his original Mod 3 barrel, since it's currently the only original Mk13 Mod 3 barrel in private hands. He sent me tons of photos and we spent countless hours going over the smallest of details. That analysis paid off because we discovered exactly how the original Mod 3 barrels were made! This isn't just a look-alike or something that's close to the originals, it's an EXACT reproduction of the original Mod 3 barrels! This is the only place to get one, and @crazynoto has gone through great lengths to order the barrel blanks in the exact specs he needs to make these clone barrels.
Once a gunsmith installs this clone Mod 3 barrel on your rifle and does the vertical gate latch cuts, it will be a 100% reproduction of the finished original military barrels. The barrel blanks come with the barrel journal already installed, so @crazynoto has already taken care of the most difficult part of the barrel that needs to be precisely duplicated.
Please ask any questions in this thread. If anyone needs a Mod 3 barrel or 2, don't pass up this opportunity!
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