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Bulletproof?

Ask any older Toyota mechanic how many headgaskets they've done.


They're not bad, but they're underpowered and not nearly as bulletproof as the internet would have you believe. They just make so little power it's not possible to tell when they're running shitty...
I have owned a bunch of trucks with 22RE engines and never done a single head gasket. I did do head gaskets every other year on my Duramax though, even after installing studs and O-rings. As for under powered, I have been over the Rubicon trail numerous times with a 22RE truck and watched guys with V8 powered rigs spin tires, roll over and turn tail and go back. The 22RE does exactly what it was designed to do, pull a small truck around.
 
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The night a buddy turned 200000 on his 84 he took it 4 wheeling. Ha came up on a Wagoner stuck to the axles in mud. Pulled it out backing up hill. He never had a problem with the motor. The body fell apart.

I'd love to find a dirt cheap 85-95 4runner 5 speed. Drive train and soft parts of the interior can be junk. Body and frame rust free. Did a complete rebuild on one and the frame disentigrated after 30000 miles. Motor was barely broken in.
 

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The night a buddy turned 200000 on his 84 he took it 4 wheeling. Ha came up on a Wagoner stuck to the axles in mud. Pulled it out backing up hill. He never had a problem with the motor. The body fell apart.

I'd love to find a dirt cheap 85-95 4runner 5 speed. Drive train and soft parts of the interior can be junk. Body and frame rust free. Did a complete rebuild on one and the frame disentigrated after 30000 miles. Motor was barely broken in.
Finding one in VA will be tough. When I lived in the Shenandoah Valley I went to look at a Dodge Raider, it was oddly sagging in the rear. When I looked under it both frame rails were rusted through and failed. I think that might be my next project, a Dodge Raider or 1st gen Montero 2dr.
 
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I have owned a bunch of trucks with 22RE engines and never done a single head gasket. I did do head gaskets every other year on my Duramax though, even after installing studs and O-rings. As for under powered, I have been over the Rubicon trail numerous times with a 22RE truck and watched guys with V8 powered rigs spin tires, roll over and turn tail and go back. The 22RE does exactly what it was designed to do, pull a small truck around.

Never had a head gasket issue either and I put over 150k miles on mine. Gearing is the important thing with the 22RE. They are light in torque and need the RPMs to get into their REAL power band. Go up in tire size and 456 gears are not unrealistic. A gen 1 that isn't a pile of rust is a great off road vehicle. Rust is the cause of most 4runner deaths, not the 22RE.
 

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Never had a head gasket issue either and I put over 150k miles on mine. Gearing is the important thing with the 22RE. They are light in torque and need the RPMs to get into their REAL power band. Go up in tire size and 456 gears are not unrealistic. A gen 1 that isn't a pile of rust is a great off road vehicle. Rust is the cause of most 4runner deaths, not the 22RE.
I know of a few Toyota’s that died because of frame issues with excellent drivetrains still.
The ford 4.9 6 cylinder is a similar motor.
My last one had 390,000 miles when I rid of it.
 
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Finding one in VA will be tough. When I lived in the Shenandoah Valley I went to look at a Dodge Raider, it was oddly sagging in the rear. When I looked under it both frame rails were rusted through and failed. I think that might be my next project, a Dodge Raider or 1st gen Montero 2dr.
It's one of those if I find a deal projects. If I go to our training academy in Norman, Ok again need to search for one and drive out instead of flying. Get paid to pick it up.
 

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Getting motivated to finish this project. It's a 1986 4Runner SR5 that belongs to my son. The color is the new Army green Toyota is putting on their 2020 trucks and 4Runners. Finally time to start putting it back together. He said he wants to try to have it done this summer so he can use it for camping. I told him NFW, if you want to go camping take my Tahoe or my truck. The hard top, step bars and bumpers were done in black Rhino Liner. We have already had a bunch of people that saw it in the shop try to buy it.

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The official vehicle of Vantucky Washington.
 

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Here in the high desert of sw New Mexico there are tons of rust free gen 1 Tacomas, Tundras, T100s running around town. Im tempted to pick one up.
 

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I have owned a bunch of trucks with 22RE engines and never done a single head gasket. I did do head gaskets every other year on my Duramax though, even after installing studs and O-rings. As for under powered, I have been over the Rubicon trail numerous times with a 22RE truck and watched guys with V8 powered rigs spin tires, roll over and turn tail and go back. The 22RE does exactly what it was designed to do, pull a small truck around.

And yet I've seen more than 1 Duramax make it past 400k with nothing but injectors. What kind of tune was on it?


The 22re is fine, but it's not the most reliable motor out there according to my mechanic buddies who have them stacked up waiting to get fixed.

Toyota has done one hell of a job on marketing. Not sure how they hold their value so well. It's funny, every Toyota guy I talk to has had more work done to their truck than my 20 year old 250k mile Chevy.


Every manufacturer gets a lemon from time to time. I'm just not sold on paying 5x the price for 50hp than what I can buy 300 for.
 
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I've got a 02 Tacoma with 260,00 miles on it. The only work besides oil, filters and fluids is front brakes and struts and right half shaft. My father out law has 2 with 300,000 hard miles. Tacomas are great!
 
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And yet I've seen more than 1 Duramax make it past 400k with nothing but injectors. What kind of tune was on it?


The 22re is fine, but it's not the most reliable motor out there according to my mechanic buddies who have them stacked up waiting to get fixed.

Toyota has done one hell of a job on marketing. Not sure how they hold their value so well. It's funny, every Toyota guy I talk to has had more work done to their truck than my 20 year old 250k mile Chevy.


Every manufacturer gets a lemon from time to time. I'm just not sold on paying 5x the price for 50hp than what I can buy 300 for.
Yah sure, I have a big dog too.

You remind of one of those NASCAR knuckle draggers, or the guys at the truck pulls that gets a few beers in and want to fight every guy with a Ford T-shirt. Oh, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned NASCAR since Toyota won the championship last year.

You must live in Duramax heaven, or you may only know 2 guys that own them. I guess you never heard of the injector harness issues, dual mass flywheel failures, head gasket failures, high pressure pump failures, lower ball joint failures, front hub failures, Allison transmission input shaft failures. They are prone to head gasket failure because the engine makes a tone of torque and the all aluminum Isuzu block flexes too much.

Toyota trucks have the best resale value for a reason, and used cars aren't valued or sold based on advertising geared towards their new car sales. A new 4Runner SR5 TRD sells for about $60K, a new Tahoe LTZ Z71 sell for about $65K, a Yukon Denali is about $70K, 2 years down the road the Toyota still sells for close to new price, while the GM products sell for a $20K loss.

As for your horsepower claims, the 22RE in my son's 4Runner is rated at 150BHP, the Vortec in my Tahoe is rated at 255BHP. When you consider the Tahoe weighs 5200 and the 4Runner weighs 3500, the 4Runner has almost the same power to weight ratio.

My Duramax is a bone stock LLY, nothing more than a KN air filter, a one piece flywheel and Centerforce clutch for mods.

I also drive a Chevy with over 250K miles on it, but it's a utilitarian POS Tahoe that is basic transportation. It gets me back and forth to work but it's on it's 4 set of front hubs, second transmission, I can't remember how many sets of brakes, and the typical Chevy heater controller, heater motor, heater blend actuator, heater blower resistor problems all Chevy trucks have, and it has a bad case of the Chevy Shake at speeds over 75mph.

*** This picture is just to keep @Dirty D off of my back for engaging in this useless banter.

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Yah sure, I have a big dog too.

You remind of one of those NASCAR knuckle draggers, or the guys at the truck pulls that gets a few beers in and want to fight every guy with a Ford T-shirt. Oh, maybe I shouldn't have mentioned NASCAR since Toyota won the championship last year.

You must live in Duramax heaven, or you may only know 2 guys that own them. I guess you never heard of the injector harness issues, dual mass flywheel failures, head gasket failures, high pressure pump failures, lower ball joint failures, front hub failures, Allison transmission input shaft failures. They are prone to head gasket failure because the engine makes a tone of torque and the all aluminum Isuzu block flexes too much.

Toyota trucks have the best resale value for a reason, and used cars aren't valued or sold based on advertising geared towards their new car sales. A new 4Runner SR5 TRD sells for about $60K, a new Tahoe LTZ Z71 sell for about $65K, a Yukon Denali is about $70K, 2 years down the road the Toyota still sells for close to new price, while the GM products sell for a $20K loss.

As for your horsepower claims, the 22RE in my son's 4Runner is rated at 150BHP, the Vortec in my Tahoe is rated at 255BHP. When you consider the Tahoe weighs 5200 and the 4Runner weighs 3500, the 4Runner has almost the same power to weight ratio.

My Duramax is a bone stock LLY, nothing more than a KN air filter, a one piece flywheel and Centerforce clutch for mods.

I also drive a Chevy with over 250K miles on it, but it's a utilitarian POS Tahoe that is basic transportation. It gets me back and forth to work but it's on it's 4 set of front hubs, second transmission, I can't remember how many sets of brakes, and the typical Chevy heater controller, heater motor, heater blend actuator, heater blower resistor problems all Chevy trucks have, and it has a bad case of the Chevy Shake at speeds over 75mph.

*** This picture is just to keep @Dirty D off of my back for engaging in this useless banter.

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D’s gonna be beside himself with that smile, I’m sure 😁. 🤙