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Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

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When Benjamin Franklin was asked after a session of the Constitutional Convention, ""What kind of a government have you given us? "" he replied, ""A democracy, if you can keep it.
A Republic, if you can keep it. sheesh… no wonder your world outlook is so out of whack.

Old Ronnie baby was dead on when he said that it’s not that liberals are stupid, it’s just that so much of what they believe isn’t true. You seem like a nice enough person, just so blinded by TDS and liberal blinders that you literally can’t see how ridiculous your talking points are.

or a troll…either way, good luck. Please don’t vote.

Edit: pic thread rules:

dinner last night at work…leftover steak on a fresh baguette my wife baked just before I left. Fucking awesome!

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Why do you always have to put down anyone who isn't part of your echo chamber. I'm a Republican Libertarian who will vote for Nikki, I hate Biden. I'm far from retirement despite my Avatar, Veteran white middle class and just as pissed off about our borders as any other Republican. But I feel I can be a Republican without having to hate Democrats, be homophobic, or hate every Republican not part of the Trump conspiracy. He lost, let's think about the next election because once Trump is the Candidate the Democrats will have a constant news cycle of Republicans pleading guilty, taking plea deals and saying Trump fooled them. Trump needs this to stay out of jail, even a federal pardon will not let him off free. Let's pick a candidate that doesn't have all the baggage and motivates so many Democrats to vote.
A “libertarian” voting for a war mongering fuck like Haley.
 
When Benjamin Franklin was asked after a session of the Constitutional Convention, ""What kind of a government have you given us? "" he replied, ""A democracy, if you can keep it.
Even Nancy Pelosi got it right (Republic, not democracy). You need to be more careful when you “lift” quotes from your heroine.
 
I'm not a Democrat, but I know this one, both Republicans and Democrats want their people to vote. Most Republicans vote in person, can take time on election day and have a current drivers licenses - they don't move around as much. So they like ID checks and hate mail in voting and early voting. Democrats have more low income and working poor, many don't have a drivers license with an up to date address and it is harder to get off work and make it to a poll in person. Also, rejecting IDs was used by corrupt Jim Crow types to keep blacks from voting so they don't trust it will not be abused.
And for the record I support voter ID laws but like early voting and mail in as long as secure. And I know people will scream voter fraud, but there is no evidence it happened any more in 2020 than 2016 and never with quantities to change outcomes.

Democrats have more low income and working poor, many don't have a drivers license with an up to date address and it is harder to get off work and make it to a poll in person.
1st. This is not their argument they say poor people don't have an ID in the first place.

2nd. It wouldn't matter if the address wasn't up to date, they aren't getting pulled over for a traffic stop just needing an ID to get past the poll worker.

3rd. Anyone with a job they need to get off for likely has a valid ID.

4th. This not being able to make it to the polls is the biggest bunch of bullshit. They got 4 yrs notice on which day it is get the fuck out of here with that BS, (but I will give you this I do think they should change voting to at least two days Friday and Saturday and even maybe make it a federal holiday. That way you got one day during the week and one on the weekend that way there is no excuse for someone not being able to make it in person)

And let's be real here for a second why should something as important as the integrity of the election for the president of the United States be compromised because a very very small percentage of the population can't get their asses to the polls in person. You got 4 fucking years notice if it means so much for you to vote find a way to get your ass there millions of other Americans find a way to get there.
 
1st. This is not their argument they say poor people don't have an ID in the first place.

2nd. It wouldn't matter if the address wasn't up to date, they aren't getting pulled over for a traffic stop just needing an ID to get past the poll worker.

3rd. Anyone with a job they need to get off for likely has a valid ID.

And, it's not all that hard to get a State ID if one needs one.... and *wants* one. And that might be part of the problem. Not "wanting" a govt. ID and, thus, being subject to whatever govt bureaucracy/scruitiny that entails.

4th. This not being able to make it to the polls is the biggest bunch of bullshit. They got 4 yrs notice on which day it is get the fuck out of here with that BS, (but I will give you this I do think they should change voting to at least two days Friday and Saturday and even maybe make it a federal holiday. That way you got one day during the week and one on the weekend that way there is no excuse for someone not being able to make it in person).

I'd give it a whole week. My current county gives two. And early voting does solve a couple of problems. It eliminates the "Election day Crunch" that can happen and cause polling places to shut down, prematurely, depriving citizens of their voting opportunity. Bad weather, or machines breaking down, etc. etc. etc. Crowds overwhelming a polling place. All that could be mitigated by early voting at the polling places.... not by Mail in, unless the mail in ballot is specifically requested and approved, and sent in (postmarked) by Election day.

And let's be real here for a second why should something as important as the integrity of the election for the president of the United States be compromised because a very very small percentage of the population can't get their asses to the polls in person. You got 4 fucking years notice if it means so much for you to vote find a way to get your ass there millions of other Americans find a way to get there.

And again, I'm not opposed to mail-in (absentee) ballots in their classic context. That being, a person who simply cannot be there for the election day/week/whatever (either they're sick/hospitalized and can't travel or they're deployed in the MIlitary or out of town longer term, or whatever), and they request the ballot from their election commissioner in advance. They offer proof of ID as part of that request. And once approved, they have up until Election Day itself to get it postmarked and returned in the mail. I actually did that once in my current precinct. The website asked me to upload an image of my ID. No problem. I got the ballot in the mail directly from the commissioner's office, and I had it back to them within 2 days. They even confirmed they had received and counted it on their website.

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Total bullshit. He said “…Republic…”
I cut and pasted a quote from the Internet, I wasn't there, don't think you were either.
I really don't get the pushback on the word democracy. When I hear it I get that it means the people have the power as opposed to fascism, socialism, communism etc. I think everyone knows we have a constitution and elect representatives. I can't think of a single democratic nation that is not a republic. I'll let nerdier people than I debate the nuances and labels.
My point was our elected representatives need to transfer power when they lose, not try to subvert it and if someone tried to do that we should not let them try again.
 
1st. This is not their argument they say poor people don't have an ID in the first place.

2nd. It wouldn't matter if the address wasn't up to date, they aren't getting pulled over for a traffic stop just needing an ID to get past the poll worker.

3rd. Anyone with a job they need to get off for likely has a valid ID.

4th. This not being able to make it to the polls is the biggest bunch of bullshit. They got 4 yrs notice on which day it is get the fuck out of here with that BS, (but I will give you this I do think they should change voting to at least two days Friday and Saturday and even maybe make it a federal holiday. That way you got one day during the week and one on the weekend that way there is no excuse for someone not being able to make it in person)

And let's be real here for a second why should something as important as the integrity of the election for the president of the United States be compromised because a very very small percentage of the population can't get their asses to the polls in person. You got 4 fucking years notice if it means so much for you to vote find a way to get your ass there millions of other Americans find a way to get there.
I wish they made it a national holiday and mandatory as well. No more stupid wedge issues and fear slinging to get people to show You don't vote, no benefits, no tax returns, etc. Seriously you have one job as a citizen.
 
While I agree with everything you said. I believe the real reason Democrats are against voter ID has nothing to do with the poor and downtrodden not having or being able to get an ID they know that is a bullshit lie and even if it was true, they really don't give a fuck about the poor anyway. My point is the real reason they don't want voter ID is because that would make it harder for them to steel/cheat elections. That is the absolute only reason democrats don't want voter ID and everyone with half of brain knows it.

My question was really aimed @Old Man with Gun just wanted to see if he was going to spew the same nonsense the rest of the democrats say about poor's not being able to get an ID.

Actually, both of you are correct.

Libs keep their followers eating crumbs off the floor and tell them they are free crumbs. Their dumbass followers accept it.

The fat off the hog goes into the Liberal Politicans pockets. Why else would they cheat their way into a sub $300K salary like they do? Why else would they become multi-millionaires while holding office of said salary?

Working citizens are tax mules, to line the pockets of politicians. Free loaders are good with the situation, because they don't have to lift a finger to survive.

Non free loaders are getting the raw end of the deal.
 
Why is it so hard for people to understand that the United States of America is a “Constitutional Republic?” Especally oh so many democrats in high public office. Most are lawyers and surely a lawyer should have even a slight bit of civic knowledge of their government and the Constitution that defines and authorizes it.
Because the dullards repeat what the people on the TeeVee tell them.
 
4th. This not being able to make it to the polls is the biggest bunch of bullshit. They got 4 yrs notice on which day it is get the fuck out of here with that BS, (but I will give you this I do think they should change voting to at least two days Friday and Saturday and even maybe make it a federal holiday. That way you got one day during the week and one on the weekend that way there is no excuse for someone not being able to make it in person)

And let's be real here for a second why should something as important as the integrity of the election for the president of the United States be compromised because a very very small percentage of the population can't get their asses to the polls in person. You got 4 fucking years notice if it means so much for you to vote find a way to get your ass there millions of other Americans find a way to get there.

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Here are the odds, according to Vegas:

Donald Trump 11/8
Joe Biden 15/8
Nikki Haley 15/2
Gavin Newsom 10/1
Robert Kennedy Jr. 22/1
Michelle Obama 25/1
Ron DeSantis 40/1
Kamala Harris 45/1
Vivek Ramaswamy 60/1
Joe Manchin 80/1
Elizabeth Warren 80/1
All Other Candidates listed at 100/1 or higher

And I can't fathom how Biden is as high as he is. Must be the fact that the probability of another stolen election is so high.
 
My last company had about a hundred warehouse workers, mostly Black and Hispanic, living paycheck to paycheck. They couldn't afford to take a day off, most were begging for overtime. Even if they wanted time off we couldn't let more than 5% go on any day without operational impacts. The corporate office where I worked is a ghost town most of the day, all the executives like myself don't have to take time off, we are salary and get paid to vote. It is convenient to believe poor people are either stupid, working the system, or lazy, but there is more to it than that.
 
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