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Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1

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I was in VX-9, VAQ-135 and VAQ-130, I was always told it was over 200. Apparently that was a scuttlebutt (bullshit story in the Navy and Marine Corps) . Apparently that was your typical Navy truck driving story.

I can tell you that when you are standing on the flight deck and they are military on launch that your teeth rattle, your chest hurts and your brain vibrates like no other aircraft.

At VX-9, I used to stand at the end of the west side of the hangar and watch them take off. The prowler was several factors louder. We had EA-6B, F/A-18A through F/A-18G, F-35s, and AV-8B's.

It is a turbojet, and all other current aircraft are turbo prop. The original J52-P408A engine was designed for Intercontinental ballistic missiles. The bent exhaust at the end of the Prowler's exhaust is thought to increase the noise level. I don't remember what the intent of the bent exhaust was, 2003 was the last year I was in a prowler unit.

Generally we would stand on either side of the jet next to the jet blast deflectors on the aircraft carrier (Nimitz and Carl Vinson), so I guess you could get closer to the engine but not much. I have also been under the engines during ground turns at almost military, while working with the AD's and AE's to fix problems.

90% hearing loss when I retired, children and women sound like the adults on the Peanuts cartoons. Hearing aids don't help much.
That's pretty F'd up. Typical government operation, just do it today and deal with the fallout later.

Sound volume, yes, but the sound 'quality' probably has a lot to do with it as well. Different frequencies will affect you in different ways physically.

Most men will suffer from high and mid-frequency hearing loss as they age, and women's/children's voices are higher than men's, which of course they interpret as us ignoring them. Maybe we are ignoring them. Or maybe we just can't hear them.
 
That's pretty F'd up. Typical government operation, just do it today and deal with the fallout later.

Sound volume, yes, but the sound 'quality' probably has a lot to do with it as well. Different frequencies will affect you in different ways physically.

Most men will suffer from high and mid-frequency hearing loss as they age, and women's/children's voices are higher than men's, which of course they interpret as us ignoring them. Maybe we are ignoring them. Or maybe we just can't hear them.

My dad was a very quiet man; my mother, not so much. By the time I was grown I had noticed he had learned to tune her out. Unless they were involved in a direct conversation, anythime she spoke, he would respond with, "What?" He had better than average hearing until the day he died.
 
I was in VX-9, VAQ-135 and VAQ-130, I was always told it was over 200. Apparently that was a scuttlebutt (bullshit story in the Navy and Marine Corps) . Apparently that was your typical Navy truck driving story.

I can tell you that when you are standing on the flight deck and they are military on launch that your teeth rattle, your chest hurts and your brain vibrates like no other aircraft.

At VX-9, I used to stand at the end of the west side of the hangar and watch them take off. The prowler was several factors louder. We had EA-6B, F/A-18A through F/A-18G, F-35s, and AV-8B's.

It is a turbojet, and all other current aircraft are turbo prop. The original J52-P408A engine was designed for Intercontinental ballistic missiles. The bent exhaust at the end of the Prowler's exhaust is thought to increase the noise level. I don't remember what the intent of the bent exhaust was, 2003 was the last year I was in a prowler unit.

Generally we would stand on either side of the jet next to the jet blast deflectors on the aircraft carrier (Nimitz and Carl Vinson), so I guess you could get closer to the engine but not much. I have also been under the engines during ground turns at almost military, while working with the AD's and AE's to fix problems.

90% hearing loss when I retired, children and women sound like the adults on the Peanuts cartoons. Hearing aids don't help much.

If you've never looked at the math of the decibel, it's worth a close look. 140dB is a total motherfucker for anything like a static noise level. (as opposed to something like a gun shot - a jet taking off is closer to static, especially for the crew in the jet. The difference between 140 and 200 is way beyond huge because the SPL scale is not linear. It's logarithmic. If you don't know logs, just realize that the base 10 log of the number 1 is 0, the log of 10 is 1 and the log of 100 is 2. So it's an exponential way of showing numbers that vary by large, huge differences.

200 dB would blend tissue in close proximity. Dead, not just deaf. 140 dB causes strong pain in a healthy ear. I think an unsuppressed 338 LM at 3 feet from the muzzle is something like 150 or 160 dB. When a person is too close to a 50 BMG unsuppressed, their sinus tissue tears and the brain gets bruised.

What? Speak up, I cunt hear you!!!

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Speaking of cunts, Wikipedia is full of them but they have a reasonable discussion of SPL:

 
What in the Ape hanging, Suicide Shifting, Leg Breaking, WTF, LA Trailer Park Hell is that? Is that a mannequin on there? After riding that thing for a couple of weeks, be an olympic pull-up champion if you lived that long. Just try holding your arms up like that for a couple of hours, much less steering, clutching, throttling. Very interesting picture right there, I keep seeing more every time I look.
 
Each fall we would sail from our home port in Humboldt Bay up to Dutch Harbor and follow the crabbers north to provide search and rescue because most of the time they were out of helo range of the closest airports. The naval station at Adak and the Air Force PJ’s out of Elmendorf had mid air refueling capabilities but flatly refused to launch a SAR mission in the worst storms.
What time frame? I grew up throwing and fishing diapers off the docks at petro marine in the 80's
 
What time frame? I grew up throwing and fishing diapers off the docks at petro marine in the 80's
I was on the Acushnet crew that brought her from her old home port in Gulfport MS in July of 90 until I got orders to school in July of 92. Redwood summer was in full swing when we got there, talk about culture shock for a southern boy!