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This election should have produced the biggest red wave in history. All the indicators were there in plain sight. What the geotracking will show, again, is democrat operative 'mules' stuffing ballot boxes in the dead of night, and 'votes' being counted for days until the prearranged result is reached.

It's WAY too late for voting, patriots.
 

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    According to foxnews, 20-28 year olds voted almost 20-1 in favor of Dems. They created a blue wave that essentially countered the predicted red wave
    Which I could see that. They think the government owes them free shit. The Democrats always talk about what free shit they are trying to give that age group

    I also believe claiming for weeks that the Democrats were going to get crushed led to people who needed to go vote say fuck it it’s going to be a red wave why bother voting.
     

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    We always seem to forget that it's the swing voters that sway the outcome. Republicans will vote Republican no matter what. Democrats (except in 2016) will always vote Democrat.

    There are literally millions of new, young voters that will swing between parties depending on recent events. They determine the outcome.

    VooDoo
     

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    Young voters always get a bad rap when voting. It has always been that way because you know "we" always know so much. It's always been that way thought History.
     
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    I think the big silent factor of the midterms was abortion rights. When the Supreme Court made there ruling I had a gut feeling that was not going to be in the Republican favor. Kind of makes one think of the whole timing of the event.
     

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    The media has done a great hit job on trump and republicans and on conservative ideas

    Don't discount the power of mass brainwashing

    Also the timing of the Roe v Wade issue at SCOTUS is suspect as hell. This brought out all the single issue voters to vote Dem for Abortion. This crowd is very motivated and organized

    My younger daughter is in college, just about every college student is pro Dem at this point, mostly due to their lack of understanding of how the world works (inflation etc) and the constant social media brain washing they agree to subject themselves for hours a day.
     

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    I think the big silent factor of the midterms was abortion rights. When the Supreme Court made there ruling I had a gut feeling that was not going to be in the Republican favor. Kind of makes one think of the whole timing of the event.

    The timing and media coverage was dictated by the "leak".

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    Which I could see that. They think the government owes them free shit. The Democrats always talk about what free shit they are trying to give that age group

    I am a younger demographic, and genuinely want to know if you are against free shit for students, or against all free shit?

    How do you feel about billions in handouts to corn Ethanol farmers each year? Or massive giveaways to Florida's Fanjul sugar brothers? How about billions in PPP scams?

    In other words, are you a true fiscal conservative about spending or "I got mine, fuck the youngsters" guy?
     

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    According to foxnews, 20-28 year olds voted almost 20-1 in favor of Dems. They created a blue wave that essentially countered the predicted red wave

    Can confirm - I was on campus the day Roe v Wade flipped, and most young women and "male feminists" had their war face on.
     
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    I am a younger demographic, and genuinely want to know if you are against free shit for students, or against all free shit?

    How do you feel about billions in handouts to corn Ethanol farmers each year? Or massive giveaways to Florida's Fanjul sugar brothers? How about billions in PPP scams?

    In other words, are you a true fiscal conservative about spending or "I got mine, fuck the youngsters" guy?
    Must of us got sweet fuck all and are working our asses off to stay solvent. Young people who have not given anything usually want free stuff because they have never had to pay for a damn thing.
     

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    Almost seems too perfect. Doesn't it?
    Maybe 50 people had access to the preliminary ruling. The lack of an investigation, the lack of media coverage, the lack of outrage by the republicants and timing are telling.
    I dont buy it. The only real push back against row was with lesbians and on tv. Its rigged with a built in excuse
    When all the normal players are turning a blind eye
     

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    I am a younger demographic, and genuinely want to know if you are against free shit for students, or against all free shit?

    How do you feel about billions in handouts to corn Ethanol farmers each year? Or massive giveaways to Florida's Fanjul sugar brothers? How about billions in PPP scams?

    In other words, are you a true fiscal conservative about spending or "I got mine, fuck the youngsters" guy?
    Worked my ass off and paid my school loans like everyone else my age. Never got a hand out or expected one.
     

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    My younger daughter is in college, just about every college student is pro Dem at this point, mostly due to their lack of understanding of how the world works (inflation etc) and the constant social media brain washing they agree to subject themselves for hours a day.

    Inflation mostly matters if you have savings, young people don't have savings and therefore doesn't matter to them.

    Also, inflation is a slow burn over 5-10 years while we have got bigger things to worry about.
     
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    Inflation only matters if you have money, young people don't have money and therefore doesn't matter to them.

    Also, inflation is a slow burn over 5-10 years while we have got bigger things to worry about.
    Read this to find out about the farm bill (monies given to the farmers, LOL) true expense.

    R
     

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    Worked my ass off and paid my school loans like everyone else my age. Never got a hand out or expected one.

    I was working my ass off too. I worked 20 hours each week during semesters and did internships during summers. I picked Friday night and Saturday night shifts for guaranteed work, because everyone else was partying so I always got the hours. I made $240 a week (less after taxes) which covered the rent.

    Not sure how long you had to work, but for us it needs 3 years of work to pay for 1 year of school. Gone are the days when a summer job paid for the entire year.

    And no I am not a fucking sociology major.
     
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    Inflation only matters if you have money, young people don't have money and therefore doesn't matter to them.
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    I was working my ass off too. I worked 20 hours each week during semesters and did internships during summers. I picked Friday night and Saturday night shifts for guaranteed work, because everyone else was partying so I always got the hours. I made $240 a week (less after taxes) which covered the rent.

    Not sure how long you had to work, but for us it needs 3 years of work to pay for 1 year of school. Gone are the days when a summer job paid for the entire year.

    And no I am not a fucking sociology major.
    That is what you have to do.

    You buy a car and expect someone else to pay your loan of because you purchased something you couldn’t afford
     

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    I am a younger demographic, and genuinely want to know if you are against free shit for students, or against all free shit?

    How do you feel about billions in handouts to corn Ethanol farmers each year? Or massive giveaways to Florida's Fanjul sugar brothers? How about billions in PPP scams?

    In other words, are you a true fiscal conservative about spending or "I got mine, fuck the youngsters" guy?
    Ethanol has always been a scam, it is expensive to produce and uses massive amounts of water in the process. It's another product of the government stepping in where they should have not been. Ethanol falls right in line with solar and wind as a big government give away to their buddies program. PPP is just another example of government mishandling of other peoples money. How about those electric car subsidies, student loan assistance and on and on, buying votes is a big business.
     

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    I am a younger demographic, and genuinely want to know if you are against free shit for students, or against all free shit?

    How do you feel about billions in handouts to corn Ethanol farmers each year? Or massive giveaways to Florida's Fanjul sugar brothers? How about billions in PPP scams?

    In other words, are you a true fiscal conservative about spending or "I got mine, fuck the youngsters" guy?
    Im against all free shit and subsidies. I believe we should have some form of welfare but it needs to be much stricter and less rewarding. Im also for zero foreign aid until we have zero national debt, no income or property tax at least.
     

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    Inflation only matters if you have money, young people don't have money and therefore doesn't matter to them.

    Also, inflation is a slow burn over 5-10 years while we have got bigger things to worry about.
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    Are you retarded?

    Food fuel housing doubles. Your paycheck stays the same or goes up 5 percent. But yeah. Inflation doesn’t matter
     

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    Read this to find out about the farm bill (monies given to the farmers, LOL) true expense.

    R
    Lol cheap food policy is for the consumer. And to eliminate risk so they can eliminate small farms so we can have a few easily controlled corporation farms.
     

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    Ethanol has always been a scam, it is expensive to produce and uses massive amounts of water in the process. It's another product of the government stepping in where they should have not been. Ethanol falls right in line with solar and wind as a big government give away to their buddies program. PPP is just another example of government mishandling of other peoples money. How about those electric car subsidies, student loan assistance and on and on, buying votes is a big business.
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    Im against all free shit and subsidies. I believe we should have some form of welfare but it needs to be much stricter and less rewarding. Im also for zero foreign aid until we have zero national debt, no income or property tax at least.

    I had a discussions about foreign aid with an expert from DC who visited campus. My takeaway was that most "foreign aid" goes from govt's pockets to another bank account in DC or Delaware. When Ukraine received millions in food aid, the money went to a well-connected American company that sold food at 300% markup. Let's just leave it at that.

    @AllenOne1 you are a true fiscal conservative and I respect that. There are plenty of fake conservatives on the forum who want 6,000 lbs luxury SUV tax write offs to continue but don't want young people to get a chance.
     

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    That is what you have to do.

    You buy a car and expect someone else to pay your loan of because you purchased something you couldn’t afford

    Your analogy is flawed JRB: a car is a depreciating asset, while education works differently.

    An educated STEM worker or professional pays far more in taxes, social security than a school dropout selling CBD vapes for cash. Thus an investment for 4 years yields positive returns for 40 years for the government and society.
     

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    Your analogy is flawed JRB: a car is a depreciating asset, while education works differently.

    An educated STEM worker or professional pays far more in taxes, social security than a school dropout selling CBD vapes for cash. Thus an investment for 4 years yields positive returns for 40 years for the government and society.
    So everyone else should pay for the tuition right ?
     

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    Your analogy is flawed JRB: a car is a depreciating asset, while education works differently.

    An educated STEM worker or professional pays far more in taxes, social security than a school dropout selling CBD vapes for cash. Thus an investment for 4 years yields positive returns for 40 years for the government and society.
    You've been sold a bill of goods about getting something for free.
    If the degree is worth the tuition it should be easily paid back.
    I made my own investments and reaped the rewards later in life.
    It wasn't in a prime delivery time scale though.
    Removal of personal responsibility is a hallmark of socialist ideals.
    There are several countries around the world eating shit, right now in real time, after they tried these ideals.

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    Don’t forget that they carefully placed marijuana legalization on several state ballots as well. The left is mobilized, has the media, has many of the courts and DAs, has the election commissions, and has lots of money. We are being outmaneuvered.
     
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    So everyone else should pay for the tuition right ?

    You are missing the forest for the trees: There are plenty of giveaways and handouts to focus on like Ethanol subsidies, Florida sugar brothers, and foreign aid scams. All of these affect a tiny number of voters.

    Going against 18-25 is a political suicide in 10 years for R, when the reliable 65+ voters start dying off in droves.
     
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    Don’t forget that they carefully placed marijuana legalization on several state ballots as well. The left is mobilize, has the media, has many of the courts and DAs, has the election commissions, and has lots of money. We are being outmaneuvered.
    They are just a tool that was bought.

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    Your analogy is flawed JRB: a car is a depreciating asset, while education works differently.

    An educated STEM worker or professional pays far more in taxes, social security than a school dropout selling CBD vapes for cash. Thus an investment for 4 years yields positive returns for 40 years for the government and society.
    You are flawed if you think others should pay for your decisions in life.

    How about a house you buy one you can’t afford and expect a bailout on it.

    I also guess you are one of those people that runs the credit cards up and refuses to pay and gets credit card forgiveness.

    School is a decision just like buying cars , houses and credit card debt. You run it up. It’s yours to pay. Not mine and other tax payers.
     

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    Don’t forget that they carefully placed marijuana legalization on several state ballots as well. The left is mobilize, has the media, has many of the courts and DAs, has the election commissions, and has lots of money. We are being outmaneuvered.

    I am 100% against marijuana for the record. I am perfectly happy with a stiff drink and never needed anything more potent.
     

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    You are flawed if you think others should pay for your decisions in life.

    How about a house you buy one you can’t afford and expect a bailout on it.

    I also guess you are one of those people that runs the credit cards up and refuses to pay and gets credit card forgiveness.

    School is a decision just like buying cars , houses and credit card debt. You run it up. It’s yours to pay. Not mine and other tax payers.

    I am not asking anyone to pay for my house or my credit card bills. I want R to figure out some way to win 18-25, because we are losing them.

    But the party seems hell bent on driving younger voters away by painting everyone in my generation as pink haired weed smoking sociology majors in drag clothing looking for handouts to pay for abortions. This is ridiculous.

    I will say it again: Going against 18-25 is a political suicide in 10 years for R, when the reliable 65+ voters start dying off in droves.
     

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    I am not asking anyone to pay for my house or my credit card bills. I want R to figure out some way to win 18-25, because we are losing them.

    But the party seems hell bent on driving younger voters away by painting everyone in my generation as pink haired weed smoking sociology majors in drag clothing looking for handouts to pay for abortions. This is ridiculous.

    I will say it again: Going against 18-25 is a political suicide in 10 years for R, when the reliable 65+ voters start dying off in droves.
    When did I say anything about weed smoking pink hair?? But it does seem like you think people are supposed to bail you out on your school loans. You think I did it right away or had the greatest job when I started out after college. Hell I’m still not making the money I would like. But I never expected a handout.

    All I said is looking for free handouts. Which is true. You see a lot but not all of the younger generation excepting free hand out.

    I have friends with kids about that 18-25 range and I’m blown away by the shit they expect from government or believe the bullshit the media and their favorite stars or late night shows tell them to think.

    I am not saying everyone is like this at that age just seems to be a lot of the majority.
     

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    This election should have produced the biggest red wave in history. All the indicators were there in plain sight. What the geotracking will show, again, is democrat operative 'mules' stuffing ballot boxes in the dead of night, and 'votes' being counted for days until the prearranged result is reached.

    It's WAY too late for voting, patriots.
    It might show that, but I don’t know which is worse to think about. Either the libtards are:

    cheating and stealing the elections

    or

    They are really that effed up in the head and are actually really voting that way.

    Which is worse? I suppose if they’re cheating, that could be rectified, but if they are really deranged enough to legitimately vote the libtard agenda, we are truly lost.

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    When did I say anything about weed smoking pink hair?? But it does seem like you think people are supposed to bail you out on your school loans. You think I did it right away or had the greatest job when I started out after college. Hell I’m still not making the money I would like. But I never expected a handout.

    All I said is looking for free handouts. Which is true. You see a lot but not all of the younger generation excepting free hand out.

    I have friends with kids about that 18-25 range and I’m blown away by the shit they expect from government or believe the bullshit the media and their favorite stars or late night shows tell them to think.

    I am not saying everyone is like this at that age just seems to be a lot of the majority.

    I understand where you are coming from and I respect that. Sorry if I sounded defensive; folks on this forum have been treating me as a pink haired sociology major because I am pro student loan relief.
     

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    I am a younger demographic, and genuinely want to know if you are against free shit for students, or against all free shit?

    How do you feel about billions in handouts to corn Ethanol farmers each year? Or massive giveaways to Florida's Fanjul sugar brothers? How about billions in PPP scams?

    In other words, are you a true fiscal conservative about spending or "I got mine, fuck the youngsters" guy?
    "Ignore" button is awesome
     

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    It might show that, but I don’t know which is worse to think about. Either the libtards are:

    cheating and stealing the elections

    or

    They are really that effed up in the head and are actually really voting that way.

    Which is worse? I suppose if they’re cheating, that could be rectified, but if they are really deranged enough to legitimately vote the libtard agenda, we are truly lost.

    John

    I will paraphrase your two options and add a third one:

    Option 1) The most powerful country in the free world has been totally compromised with hijacked elections, nationwide. OR
    Option 2) There a whole generation of weirdos effed up in the head who want to smoke weed and sleep with trannies and get robbed by criminals, OR
    Option 3) Dems have better ground game + youth vote.


    Pick option 3 if you want to actually win some elections, because options 1 and 2 lead to further ideological isolation.
     
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    I am not asking anyone to pay for my house or my credit card bills. I want R to figure out some way to win 18-25, because we are losing them.

    But the party seems hell bent on driving younger voters away by painting everyone in my generation as pink haired weed smoking sociology majors in drag clothing looking for handouts to pay for abortions. This is ridiculous.

    I will say it again: Going against 18-25 is a political suicide in 10 years for R, when the reliable 65+ voters start dying off in droves.
    18-25 is prime military recruiting age yet the US Military cannot fill its ranks as vast majority of 18-25 cannot meet minimum US Military recruiting standards (which is pretty low bar). America fixes its 18-25 problem when Parent/Grandparents stop paying their bills, kick out of house, etc. and the 18-25 generation gets hit in the face with "reality"
     

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    I understand where you are coming from and I respect that. Sorry if I sounded defensive; folks on this forum have been treating me as a pink haired sociology major because I am pro student loan relief.
    IF you want student loan forgiveness, it should come from the college/university system (they get enough from .gov/taxes as it is, along with their donors), not taxpayers. The taxpayer is getting double F in this deal. Yeah, I'm a Boomer, so there's that. Made my debts, and paid them. Wrong/right/good/bad, it was my debt. Mac
     
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