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Need help with speeding ticket

mluning

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#1
I got a bogus ticket leaving town from work a couple weeks ago and I need some advice especially from LEO/exLEOs.

When I was leaving town the speed limit changes from 45 to 60.

The city limit sign is around 25 yds from the 60, between the 45 and 60. And 100 yds after that is a 70.

As I'm accelerating towards the 60 I see the officer coming towards town around the 70mph sign so I look down and I'm going a little over 60 as I'm passing the 60mph sign. No big deal I think to myself as I'm going a couple miles over.

He turns around, I pull over, and he writes me a ticket saying I was going 63 in a 50. A 50? WTF is that? There is no posted 50. And I sure as hell wouldn't be doing 63 in a 45. I didn't notice that he wrote it wrong until I came back home the next day.

I'm going to take care of the ticket within the next couple days and I need some advice on what to do. The officer clocking me outside city limits, in a changing speeds area, and writing down the wrong ass posted speed limit has me a little bent. Does any of this add up to a voided ticket? Sorry I do not know my laws as well as ya'll.

Thanks for the help,
Mike
 
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Ok, I'll say it.

"Sounds to me like you're going to JAIL, son".

Happy New Year.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While my specialty is Gynecology...</div></div>

Damn, queequeg...with a lead-off like that, I was expecting you to call him a "pussy" and tell him to pay it and slow down!!!!
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To the OP's point...depending on how much the ticket is going to cost you and how many points you are going to get saddled with, it might be worth your time to find an attorney in your area that specializes in this type of work and consult with them (an initial consult will likely be free, but you'll pay through the nose for legal representation). I know it is the principle of the matter that gets you, but like everything...principles cost money to uphold!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stungib</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The officer clocking me outside city limits, in a changing speeds area, and writing down the wrong ass posted speed limit has me a little bent. </div></div>

You should definitely go to court and convey that to the judge.
Be firm. Remember, he's also part of this little money machine they have going on there, and you need to remind him that he is sworn to uphold the law, AND that both his and the PD's salaries are made possible by YOUR tax dollars, earned at a <span style="text-decoration: underline">real</span> job.

Now go get 'em tiger!
 
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If the ticket is written for the incorrect charge (63/50 where there is no 50) it *should* get voided. If that doesnt happen in city court, appeal it to County court.
 
#8
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stungib</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The officer clocking me outside city limits, in a changing speeds area, and writing down the wrong ass posted speed limit has me a little bent. </div></div>

You should definitely go to court and convey that to the judge.
Be firm. Remember, he's also part of this little money machine they have going on there, and you need to remind him that he is sworn to uphold the law, AND that both his and the PD's salaries are made possible by YOUR tax dollars, earned at a <span style="text-decoration: underline">real</span> job.

Now go get 'em tiger!</div></div> And get it on video so we can see the judge and cop put in their place!
 
#9
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">, and you need to remind him that he is sworn to uphold the law, AND that both his and the PD's salaries are made possible by YOUR tax dollars, earned at a <span style="text-decoration: underline">real</span> job.</div></div>

I think I'd leave that part out when talking to the judge...
 
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If the correct speedlimit was 60 and not 50, you have a valid beef to bring up in court. I have seen an incorrect date get a pass by a judge, but not incorrect speed zones.
 
#13
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stungib</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The officer clocking me outside city limits, in a changing speeds area, and writing down the wrong ass posted speed limit has me a little bent. </div></div>

You should definitely go to court and convey that to the judge.
Be firm. Remember, he's also part of this little money machine they have going on there, and you need to remind him that he is sworn to uphold the law, AND that both his and the PD's salaries are made possible by YOUR tax dollars, earned at a <span style="text-decoration: underline">real</span> job.

Now go get 'em tiger!</div></div>

I hope that you are running your suck in jest, because your smartass post is full of fail.
 
#14
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GO video tape that stretch of road to prove your argument, subpoena the officers/departmental car GPS log, most cars are outfitted with them now. They can watch all their cars in real time back at dispatch on a nice google like map of their jurisdiction. They tell the officers exact location, speed and GPS location every second of every day, it is a public record Request/subpoena it. It may help to show when and what time he left his jurisdiction IF HE DID???
Be RESPECTFUL AT ALL TIMES and ask alot of questions. Also Subpoena the local agency that does the the road signs and all their records regarding the speed sign changes and when they happened? By the time the prosecutor answers all your requests/discovery he will be reducing your case to a non-moving violation.
AGAIN BE RESPECTFULL it will win your case far better than actual facts lol.
Dont forget to subpoena the radio logs from dispatch for that officer too it may become important time wise if his watch time ie the time he put on you ticket differs from the GPS logs.? Just a thought.
Oh and also ask for all the calibration records for the device he measured your relative velocity with, they hate that, but most states require the instrument be calibrated daily both pre and post shift, dont stop ther though then subpoena that calibration instrument's records too just to be sure it was functioning properly.
Seeing a theme here, if you have the time you can make them earn that velocity tax they have placed on you
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#15
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 11B101ABN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stungib</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The officer clocking me outside city limits, in a changing speeds area, and writing down the wrong ass posted speed limit has me a little bent. </div></div>

You should definitely go to court and convey that to the judge.
Be firm. Remember, he's also part of this little money machine they have going on there, and you need to remind him that he is sworn to uphold the law, AND that both his and the PD's salaries are made possible by YOUR tax dollars, earned at a <span style="text-decoration: underline">real</span> job.

Now go get 'em tiger!</div></div>

I hope that you are running your suck in jest, because your smartass post is full of fail. </div></div>

Really?
 
#16
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I've done this before and it was an easy win. Go take pictures and draw it up on a large poster board. Go explain your case to the judge/magistrate and it should be an easy court win.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog223</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Really? </div></div>

Thank you.
 
#19
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Reasonable doubt is a beautiful thing, just ask OJ.

I know someone who went to court on a 100+ ticket recently and the Judge threw it out because the Cop wrote down that she was doing 100 in one section of the ticket then wrote down she was doing 100+ in another. The contradiction got her off. Judge told her it was impossible to do 100 and over 100 at the same time. I couldn't believe it. Saved her a 30 day suspension.
 
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i agree.. take lots of pictures, blow them up to 8x10's.. print a nice size photo of google earth like a 20x30", and mark on the map the speed limit signs and approx distancen (all of this is for the judge to get a better understanding of the area, and know that you did your home work too) be respectful to the judge and you might win!

Let us know how it works out!!!
 
#21
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GO video tape that stretch of road to prove your argument, subpoena the officers/departmental car GPS log, most cars are outfitted with them now. They can watch all their cars in real time back at dispatch on a nice google like map of their jurisdiction. They tell the officers exact location, speed and GPS location every second of every day, it is a public record Request/subpoena it. It may help to show when and what time he left his jurisdiction IF HE DID???
Be RESPECTFUL AT ALL TIMES and ask alot of questions. Also Subpoena the local agency that does the the road signs and all their records regarding the speed sign changes and when they happened? By the time the prosecutor answers all your requests/discovery he will be reducing your case to a non-moving violation.
AGAIN BE RESPECTFULL it will win your case far better than actual facts lol.
Dont forget to subpoena the radio logs from dispatch for that officer too it may become important time wise if his watch time ie the time he put on you ticket differs from the GPS logs.? Just a thought.
Oh and also ask for all the calibration records for the device he measured your relative velocity with, they hate that, but most states require the instrument be calibrated daily both pre and post shift, dont stop ther though then subpoena that calibration instrument's records too just to be sure it was functioning properly.
Seeing a theme here, if you have the time you can make them earn that velocity tax they have placed on you
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I don't know if a small town of 2 cops would have that kind of technology. You would think that an officer of a small town would know his area a little better. What's funny is this happened on my birthday and even the officer told me happy birthday BUT he couldn't issue me a warning, and that I could appeal it in court if I wanted. I'm thinking he did this on purpose, or maybe I could be wrong. How do I go about subpoenaing these things? Do I need a lawyer? Either way I feel like this is going to cost me. Ugh..
 
#22
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Have pictures of the speed limit signs and where they are located on a map. The fact that there are no 50 mph speed limit signs should get you off.

Check the other side of the road also, sometimes they have different speed limits. If your side has 60 and the other side of the road has 50, there you go, cop was in the wrong.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Retoocs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check the other side of the road also, sometimes they have different speed limits. If your side has 60 and the other side of the road has 50, there you go, cop was in the wrong.</div></div>

It does, coming into town it shows a 50 sign next to the city limit sign, so there are two different speeds on both sides of road.
 
#24
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Look. it's obvious to everyone that these guys are running one of those hick town speedtrap ATM's here.
In essence, they are the same bullies who used to make fun of your clothes and take your lunch money at school.

Well, this is America, by-fucking-god!

A bully respects one thing, and that's getting his ass kicked.

Now obviously you can't do that literally, so you have to do it figuratively.
So get in there and get all Perry Mason on their asses!

Don't pussy it up with boards and charts either.

Those courtrooms have big flat screens these days, so what you need to do is borrow your Mom's laptop and get all that shit loaded up on Google Maps with Street View enabled.
You will blow their pea-sized minds when that shit hits that 60 Plasma!

And when you've got them pissing themselves over your dope litigiousness, bust out with a threat to sue for damages, legal fees, and any incurred hair gel!
 
#25
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My dad got a ticket once and hte officer told him the speed limit ch anges "Upon visible sighting of the sign, or 300 feet, whichever is greatest".

Look it up in your state.

Take a pic of the 60mph sign, subpoena officer and you should win.
 
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The speed at a sign that reads 55MPH is 55MPH from that sign to the next one. At teh next sign that reads 65MPH, that is the speed from THAT sign to the next one. The next sign reads 70MPH so the speed BEFORE that sign until that sign is 65MPH if that was the last sign passed. This is how it was explained to me by the LEO that got me in KY on the way down to TN. I did point out that my 80 was in the 70MPH zone and not in the 55MPH zone(that was in Ohio). Yes, I did cross the state line doing 80 from Ohios's 55 to KY's 70. Big deal says me. So what I had to wonder was how a KY LEO could enforce a Ohio speed limit when he tagged me for 80 in a 55. Using the mile markers he posted on the ticket, I found that his ticket was shown to be 15 miles inside KY where teh speed limit was 70, not 55. When I sent the payment in to KY and said I was not guilty but could not get there to fight it(500+ miles away = hotel for two nights, food for two days, and gas there and back, not a good money deal when the ticket is only $200). Although the fine was paid, I got a NC, and my licence shows no ticket.
And yes, I have gotten out of more speeding tickets than I care to admit, mostly for 'juke' skills so paying for that one was just good karma.
My bet is you probably owe the state a lot more than that ticket is going to cost you anyway in karma speeding points
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't pussy it up with boards and charts either.

Those courtrooms have big flat screens these days, so what you need to do is borrow your Mom's laptop and get all that shit loaded up on Google Maps with Street View enabled.
You will blow their pea-sized minds when that shit hits that 60 Plasma!
</div></div>

Bring both if you can. If you completely rely on the computer, Murphy will make sure it fails on you. Then you will look like an idiot trying to defend your view with nothing to show.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArcticLight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> subpoena officer and you should win.</div></div>

don't worry about subpoenaing. if you put in a not guilty plee, a hearing will be set with a notice to both you and the officer.

officer's have a tendancy not to show, case dismissed. but if he does, have your shit straight.

i wouldn't worry about the cost of the ticket as much as the cost of insurance getting jacked up.

get the pictures of the signs, direction of travel, a copy of the police report (you may have to pay for that believe it or not) and / or citation, any satelite google images of the strip of road and an altered version showing your positioning with the signs. maybe even look up some public records that depict that what speed the road should be posted at, and a copy of the vehicle code statuate that is outlined on the citation.

after that you'll probably still be righting a check, but you'll get the satisfaction of KNOWING the locals are corrupt
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TOP PREDATOR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

officer's(sp) have a tendancy(sp) not to show, case dismissed.</div></div>

True. Another good way to get an improvement on the chances is to file for one or two continuances. The idea is to hit a date that he can't make.

Slashed tires will make him late too.
 
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Take pictures of the area and speed limit signs. An additional thing I would do is research the state traffic code in the area of road construction and posting requirements. 25 yards between a speed change is a short distance and this distance is a written code in most states. In IL the distance between speed changes is 75 yards and the change has to be in 15 mph increments.

There are a lot of towns in the country in violation of thses laws and it pays to do a little research at times to prevent paying fines and higher insurance rates.
 
#32
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I got a ticket once where the cop had the posted speed limit wrong and got it dismissed. I had pics but the Judge never asked to see them. Chances are when the cop realizes he had it wrong he won't even show up to the court appearance. End of story.
 
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These guys are making this way more difficult than it needs to be. This is how you do it son:

Don't shower or shave for 3 days, show up to court drunk, and just tell the judge the pig is full of shit and crooked like all the rest of the people that enforce bullshit laws. Be sure to tell the judge that he has no right to tell you to obey anything because our president isn't a U.S. citizen.

It works every time.
 
#35
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just be prepared for the possibility the officer might lie about where you were pulled over. He might say you were in the 45 zone.
 
#36
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What makes you think a "Hick Town speed trap will have a 60" plasma tv in the court room?"

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Look. it's obvious to everyone that these guys are running one of those hick town speedtrap ATM's here.

Those courtrooms have big flat screens these days, so what you need to do is borrow your Mom's laptop and get all that shit loaded up on Google Maps with Street View enabled.
You will blow their pea-sized minds when that shit hits that 60 Plasma!</div></div>
 
#37
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Take pictures of the road and signs.

Measure the distance between signs.

Request a copy of the citatation from the PD front and back. Most citations have officers notes on the back for later use in court.

Check with the highway department for your area to see if they have a book with signage standards. Most DOT's have a guide or policy book that covers placement, size, and distances for sign and it's typically based on federal standards.

Another thing you may want to check into is the calibration and certification records of the radar unit that was used. Radar units in most states are required to be inspected and certified annually. Most departments require an officer to check calibration and keep a log either daily, weekly, or a minimum of monthly.

When you got to court be prepared, be polite, plead your case stating facts with documentation and photos to back up your statements.

One question is did you admit a speed to the officer?
If you admitted a speed to him that will be considered an admission of guilt. At that point you will have to be able to show that you were in a zone where the posted speed limit was above your actual speed.

Good luck!
 
#38
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jackalope33B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What makes you think a "Hick Town speed trap will have a 60" plasma tv in the court room?"</div></div>

Does every joke have to be clearly labeled with one of these?
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#39
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jcfd2201</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
One question is did you admit a speed to the officer?
If you admitted a speed to him that will be considered an admission of guilt. At that point you will have to be able to show that you were in a zone where the posted speed limit was above your actual speed.

</div></div>

So cops are judges now? What's the point of juries and courtrooms if cops can simply make a note as to your guilt.

When somebody admits to murder in a police interview why do they then go to trial?

I think our country is heading in the 'Judge Dredd' direction but we're not their yet.
 
#40
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Show him your a nice guy and share common ground. Ask him if would like to see some hot pics of his ol' lady. Butter em up, you know
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But like Switchblade said. In my state the speed limit is 55 until you pass the 65 sign. Slowing down is the same. It's 65 until you cross the 55 sign.
 
#41
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If the info is wrong on the ticket it should be thrown out. Maybe not in city court but in circuit court it will. I had a DUI that had the the wrong times filled out on them and the judge tossed it out cause the officer couldn't prove he gave me any road side tests. The speeding ticket was say 12:00 and the DUI ticket was for 12:10. The times showed that he didn't give me the road side test. Which he did but just screwded the paperwork.
 
#42
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The advice to take pictures showing the two different posted speeds (into and out of town) is good. So is consulting with an attorney.

Small errors on tickets will generally not get a case thrown out. I've seen date, time, even violation subsection errors get guilty convictions by judges. Everyone is entitled to make minor mistakes, even cops. If the cop is there in court the judge can simply ask if the cop made an error or wrote what he intended to write. He is there in person, there is no magic law that says everything is written in stone because it was on the ticket. Writing 50 MPH when the posted speed limit is 45 MPH, on the other hand, is not a small error. I'd immagine that this mistake would get the ticket thrown out. Keep in mind that there are a lot of rumors (often generated by people who have fought tickets and lost), that cops lie in traffic court. I'm not saying it has never happened before, but it is not common like people think. What cop is going to risk their 80k a year career by lying to get a total stranger convicted for an infraction.

As for clocking you outside the city limits I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. A peace officer has their peace officer powers anywhere in the state they are working in, not just their jurisdiction. A San Francisco PD cop can write someone for a vehicle code violation in San Diego and it will be held up in court. It rarely happens, but it does happen. Maybe I completely misunderstood that part and that isn't what you were referring to.
 
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Ok, so you got clocked for 63 in a 50, but the entire stretch doesnt have a 50 SL. But when you noticed the cop, probably well after he noticed you, you were in the 45. By your own admission you had not yet reached the 60mph zone, and noticed you were going "a few miles over" by the time you reached the sign. The judge *MAY* dismiss the ticket based on the discrepency. But all in all you were still in the wrong. The area you were clocked in was not a 60mph zone, it was a 45, based on your own statements. You sir, were speeding. It isnt 60 till after the sign.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shot In The Dark</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jcfd2201</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
One question is did you admit a speed to the officer?
If you admitted a speed to him that will be considered an admission of guilt. At that point you will have to be able to show that you were in a zone where the posted speed limit was above your actual speed.

</div></div>

So cops are judges now? What's the point of juries and courtrooms if cops can simply make a note as to your guilt.

When somebody admits to murder in a police interview why do they then go to trial?

I think our country is heading in the 'Judge Dredd' direction but we're not their yet. </div></div>


Police officers are by no means judges now. The simple truth of the matter is that the majority of judges will give credibility to and officer over a defendant. When someone admits to a crime or guilt to a LEO or officer of the court that admission is given a hefty amount of weight in the eyes of the court. If he admitted to doing the 63 miles per hour to the officer the judge will likely accept that as factual information. The OP would at that point have to prove that the spped limit was 60 mph and not 45mph.

I think it is pretty boned to cite a guy for 3 over the posted speed limit if he is within a reasonable distance of that speed zone in a transitional area.

There is another thing to consider here too. The officer may have knowingly written the speed limit as 50 rather than 45 out of some level of kindness. Most fines are based on MPH over the speed limit. Therefore 63 in a 50 is 13 over where 63 in a 45 is 18 over. In our area 13 over is one amount and a civil traffic citation where 15 over and higher is a criminal traffic citation and a larger fine. Just some food for thought.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jedi5150</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As for clocking you outside the city limits I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. A peace officer has their peace officer powers anywhere in the state they are working in, not just their jurisdiction. A San Francisco PD cop can write someone for a vehicle code violation in San Diego and it will be held up in court. It rarely happens, but it does happen. Maybe I completely misunderstood that part and that isn't what you were referring to.</div></div>

From talking to my DPS friend if an officer writes a ticket outside of city limits he or she has to write the ticket to the county court not city court. Either way I'm just going to take pictures of the 45 and 50 signs, take them to court, cross my fingers and hope for the best. I'm sure the judge and officer are hunting buddies.. I appreciate all the help and jokes. I will report back after I take care of the ticket.
 
#47
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stungib</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Jedi5150 said:
As for clocking you outside the city limits I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. A peace officer has their peace officer powers anywhere in the state they are working in, not just their jurisdiction. A San Francisco PD cop can write someone for a vehicle code violation in San Diego and it will be held up in court. It rarely happens, but it does happen. Maybe I completely misunderstood that part and that isn't what you were referring to.</div></div>

Jurisdiction is only for San Fran in the SF PD example, only county wide sheriffs or State police have county or state wide jurisdiction.
A local police powers only extend to their borders. Now if they see a felony in progress outside those borders they have a duty to engage but they will be a regular old witnesses not police come trial time.
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#48
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GardDog223</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 11B101ABN</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tucker301</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stungib</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The officer clocking me outside city limits, in a changing speeds area, and writing down the wrong ass posted speed limit has me a little bent. </div></div>

You should definitely go to court and convey that to the judge.
Be firm. Remember, he's also part of this little money machine they have going on there, and you need to remind him that he is sworn to uphold the law, AND that both his and the PD's salaries are made possible by YOUR tax dollars, earned at a <span style="text-decoration: underline">real</span> job.

Now go get 'em tiger!</div></div>

I hope that you are running your suck in jest, because your smartass post is full of fail. </div></div>

Really?</div></div>

Yes. Really.


Spouting off that bullshit is stupid, and if done in a court of law, will earn him a contempt charge.
 
#49
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: stungib</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Jedi5150 said:
As for clocking you outside the city limits I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. A peace officer has their peace officer powers anywhere in the state they are working in, not just their jurisdiction. A San Francisco PD cop can write someone for a vehicle code violation in San Diego and it will be held up in court. It rarely happens, but it does happen. Maybe I completely misunderstood that part and that isn't what you were referring to.</div></div>

Jurisdiction is only for San Fran in the SF PD example, only county wide sheriffs or State police have county or state wide jurisdiction.
A local police powers only extend to their borders. Now if they see a felony in progress outside those borders they have a duty to engage but they will be a regular old witnesses not police come trial time.</div></div>


I don't think that's the case in Ca. In most states you would probably be correct, though.
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#50
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Other options in Texas.... But only if you haven't had a ticket in the last twelve months: plead no contest, then take a defensive driving course (about 25 bucks), provide a copy of your driving record to the court, and pay a small fine. The ticket won't show on your record, and you can use the course to drop your insurance. This would probably cost less than a lawyer.

Or you can do the court thing. Either way, les us know how it turns out.
 
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