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Never Trumpers and Those Who Don't Like Trump

He was a customer to the banks, and was a featured star on TV. He didn’t produce his shows, nor did he have controlling interests in any banks.

Are you a real estate mogul? What’s a cap rate? You, friend, lack analytical skills. Perhaps you can read but are unable to understand what it is you are reading?
that's my point. major banks won't even do business with gun companies. you think they are going to lend him money to build something?
similarly, you think anyone is going to offer him a show?
go away, retard.
 
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You can’t have a real discussion on SH. Too many hateful trolls just trying get in the best dig. Peeps aren’t respectful.
My 2 cents, and that’s all it’s worth: I can’t vote for Trump, he truly only cares for himself. The Dems seem to be totally incompetent. So . . . . . . . . . Ugh!
Shooting steel, taking care of the fam (definitely includes the dog), and fishing makes all the ugly go away.
Hang in there folks. It takes patience and effort to hit the long shot. Let’s show some. This country has been through a whole lot tougher times than this. Let’s man up and not freak out about every little thing.
 
Is this a DAAAA JOOOOOOOOOS thread now?

Fuck you mouth breathers are dense.

and I’m not even a JOOOOO!

tards.
not all all of them turbo.
just weinstein, epstein, jeremy, schumer, schiff, nadler, blumenthal, feinstein, cohen, sanders, rosin, cardin, cicilline, engel....
 
You can’t have a real discussion on SH. Too many hateful trolls just trying get in the best dig. Peeps aren’t respectful.
My 2 cents, and that’s all it’s worth: I can’t vote for Trump, he truly only cares for himself. The Dems seem to be totally incompetent. So . . . . . . . . . Ugh!
Shooting steel, taking care of the fam (definitely includes the dog), and fishing makes all the ugly go away.
Hang in there folks. It takes patience and effort to hit the long shot. Let’s show some. This country has been through a whole lot tougher times than this. Let’s man up and not freak out about every little thing.
Best advice so far ... thanks for that.
 
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not all all of them turbo.
just weinstein, epstein, jeremy, schumer, schiff, nadler, blumenthal, feinstein, cohen, sanders, rosin, cardin, cicilline, engel....

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I think it’s power hungry retards. Not das JOOO.

but keep rowin with yer big-brain moves. Gotta keep that Fudd lore goin ya know.
 
I will swallow hard, hope for the best, plan for the worst, and color in the dot next to Biden/Harris on my safe and legal mail-in ballot (dropped off with plenty of time for delivery). Note ... Oregon has been a 100% Vote-By-Mail state for over a decade, and it works extremely well.
Just curious, if you should happen to croak before Nov 3. would your early, mailed in vote still count?
 
wonder if you clone a person could that clone run as president after trumps 2nd term is over ? and if it could could someone find a way to make a clone army of Trump to take over the senate and house lol . that would just be funny to see Nancy freak over that idea we would only need 535 of them then stagger the rest so there are replacement . :):):)
 
You can’t have a real discussion on SH. Too many hateful trolls just trying get in the best dig. Peeps aren’t respectful.
My 2 cents, and that’s all it’s worth: I can’t vote for Trump, he truly only cares for himself. The Dems seem to be totally incompetent. So . . . . . . . . . Ugh!
Shooting steel, taking care of the fam (definitely includes the dog), and fishing makes all the ugly go away.
Hang in there folks. It takes patience and effort to hit the long shot. Let’s show some. This country has been through a whole lot tougher times than this. Let’s man up and not freak out about every little thing.


Guessing you voted for Romney and think he is great.
 
Yada...yada..yada.....all this mental masturbation.
What I think of Trump is irrelevant. I wasn't crazy about him, but due to his "fuck you" tweets, and "fuck that" attitude, I like him. Exacy what we needed and need.
I know I wear this out, but it is true:
Trump is a dick, and thats exactly what we need to unfuck our country.
 
This thread shows you just how delusional someone has to be to vote Biden. Talks about morals, supports murdering babies.
I’m pretty sure I won’t see you on the battlefield in your black uniform, because my guess is you did your 20 in supply.

Must be a exercise in mental gymnastics to disregard late term and post birth abortions while championing ethics...

Or, the disproportional impacts of abortions on certain communities is not of importance or an actual desired outcome?

Hard to say.
 
Yada...yada..yada.....all this mental masturbation.
What I think of Trump is irrelevant. I wasn't crazy about him, but due to his "fuck you" tweets, and "fuck that" attitude, I like him. Exacy what we needed and need.
I know I wear this out, but it is true:
Trump is a dick, and thats exactly what we need to unfuck our country.

You don't fight and win, against a solidly entrenched enemy by being nice. Actions speak louder than words. People have two choices, vote for a sweet talking violent communist or a harsh truth speaking patriot.

PS Chad the power mad, should change his screen name to MicroPhalus. :)
 
Depends on what state they’re in.
Dead people been voting in Illinois and New York for years :ROFLMAO:
I didn't know that about New York. I do remember the 1960 election and in Illinois the dead vote put Jack Kennedy over the top.:)
 
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Just curious, if you should happen to croak before Nov 3. would your early, mailed in vote still count?
Only if someone at my mailing address receives my ballot, fills it out, forges my signature with near-perfect accuracy, and consciously commits a felony by fraudulently returning that ballot. Something only proven to have happened a handful of times in the state's history. Currently the rate of fraudulent vote-by-mail ballots is about 0.0002%. Interestingly, the only perpetration of mass voter fraud related to mail-in ballots in the United States, is the Republican Congressional candidate in North Carolina the employed a team to "harvest" and complete ballots from mostly people of color in that district ... representing themselves as authorized to do that (a state crime in NC). People are headed to jail over that one and a special election was held ... proving the system works. I'm much more concerned about party-based shenanigans like in NC (or like the President telling people in a rally to vote twice), than I am about the onesies-twosies spouse of a dead person, that fills out a ballot that gets thrown out because the signatures don't match. Mass fraud in vote-by-mail ... is a hoax. It just doesn't happen. Thanks for that question ... it's a good one.
 
He was a customer to the banks, and was a featured star on TV. He didn’t produce his shows, nor did he have controlling interests in any banks.

Are you a real estate mogul? What’s a cap rate? You, friend, lack analytical skills. Perhaps you can read but are unable to understand what it is you are reading?
Holy shit you are dumb as a fucking rock LOL
 
Holy shit you are dumb as a fucking rock LOL
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Only if someone at my mailing address receives my ballot, fills it out, forges my signature with near-perfect accuracy, and consciously commits a felony by fraudulently returning that ballot. Something only proven to have happened a handful of times in the state's history. Currently the rate of fraudulent vote-by-mail ballots is about 0.0002%. Interestingly, the only perpetration of mass voter fraud related to mail-in ballots in the United States, is the Republican Congressional candidate in North Carolina the employed a team to "harvest" and complete ballots from mostly people of color in that district ... representing themselves as authorized to do that (a state crime in NC). People are headed to jail over that one and a special election was held ... proving the system works. I'm much more concerned about party-based shenanigans like in NC (or like the President telling people in a rally to vote twice), than I am about the onesies-twosies spouse of a dead person, that fills out a ballot that gets thrown out because the signatures don't match. Mass fraud in vote-by-mail ... is a hoax. It just doesn't happen. Thanks for that question ... it's a good one.

Franklin MA.....in the news.......town election official just resigned.

3000 ballots not counted in primary.


One small town.

System is ripe for fraud.
 
Only if someone at my mailing address receives my ballot, fills it out, forges my signature with near-perfect accuracy, and consciously commits a felony by fraudulently returning that ballot. Something only proven to have happened a handful of times in the state's history. Currently the rate of fraudulent vote-by-mail ballots is about 0.0002%. Interestingly, the only perpetration of mass voter fraud related to mail-in ballots in the United States, is the Republican Congressional candidate in North Carolina the employed a team to "harvest" and complete ballots from mostly people of color in that district ... representing themselves as authorized to do that (a state crime in NC). People are headed to jail over that one and a special election was held ... proving the system works. I'm much more concerned about party-based shenanigans like in NC (or like the President telling people in a rally to vote twice), than I am about the onesies-twosies spouse of a dead person, that fills out a ballot that gets thrown out because the signatures don't match. Mass fraud in vote-by-mail ... is a hoax. It just doesn't happen. Thanks for that question ... it's a good one.
My question wasn't answered. Let's say you mailed it in just before the deadline for mail- ins (if there is one (deadline) in your state) and between that time and election day, you passed away. In other words, your ballot filled out by you is in the mail. How would they know that so your ballot would be invalid? Do they somehow check for that while counting ballots?
 
Hey, maybe some of the reasoning behind their choice to vote for Democrats is that they're really anxious for the black flag to go up and are choppin' at the bit looking for the fight to restore our Republic. OK. OK, I'm oughta here for now.
 
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Interestingly, the only perpetration of mass voter fraud related to mail-in ballots in the United States, is the Republican Congressional candidate in North Carolina the employed a team to "harvest" and complete ballots from mostly people of color in that district ... representing themselves as authorized to do that (a state crime in NC).

The Secretaries of State that run the elections have to be willing to prosecute.

If the fraud is by a Republican they seem willing.

If by a Democrat, not so much until it gets pushed into the news by Project Veritas....an election "official" no less.



Interesting that "Ballot Harvesting" is great when Communists do it.
 
“I think they would be, you know, generally for bringing down any administration,” said Mr Barr. “They are a revolutionary group that is interested in some form of socialism, communism, they’re essentially Bolsheviks, their tactics are fascistic.”
 
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My question wasn't answered. Let's say you mailed it in just before the deadline for mail- ins (if there is one (deadline) in your state) and between that time and election day, you passed away. In other words, your ballot filled out by you is in the mail. How would they know that so your ballot would be invalid? Do they somehow check for that while counting ballots?
It depends...vote for Trump, no it wouldn't count. Vote for any democrat, yes it would count twice, and they would send you another ballot.
 
The current stable of democrats are the antithesis of the promises made by our founding founders. The Constitution, Bill of Rights...etc... They(the democrats, leftists...whatever) stand for NOTHING remotely American. To deliver on the promises made in our founding documents would take effort and sacrifice. They are an embarrassment. While I'm skeptical of all politicians, generally distrust and dislike them, a vote for Biden/Harris is...just sad. No, Trump's not perfect, but there is really no alternative worth considering. I just wish the democrats would just STFU, grow balls, get up off their knees, quit hiding behind a mask and make good on their threats. Then we can move on from this embarrassing shitshow of protest.
 
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The biggest problem is that we only get two choices and, frankly? I hate all of them/both of them. I have zero faith in any of our current "Representation" to preserve the Republic and Constitution and keep the people of the US safe and to see that the rule of law is administered fairly and legally.

The problems we face will not be solved at the Polls - we won't vote our Way out of this mess. So, ya'll can side with The Red Franchise or The Blue Franchise and you can side with Conservatives or Liberals (fucking Democrats are *not* Liberals ) or whatever but we are not dealing with a Government "of the people, by the people, for the people " anymore. We are governed by an Oligarchy whose design it is to fleece America and assimilate it's wealth for a select few.

Vote how ya want - I hate them all.

VooDoo
 
I'll bet. You're in the worst position there is. A lifelong Republican hating Democrat who has had to watch the party go from blue collar, pro-America to full communist, America Hating radicals. Not surprising you hate everyone. Not many of you left in the South. Everyone has boarded the Trump Train.
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Roll out whatever over-exaggerated, taken-out-of-context talking point about Trump that you want.. it’s all BS about “but he isn’t as polite as I want him to be!!” The Dems would have you believe Trump was the cause of the apocalypse every single day for past 4 years, yet the truth is that America was doing excellent until COVID... while voting for Biden is a vote to shred the 2A, and put the nuclear football in the hands of a “likable” pedo dementia patient, who will get steamrolled in any debate/argument against Xi. You actually want that kind of power given to a fckn pushover puppet dementia patient? God help us.

Voting for Jorgensen is a vote for black lives matter LOL(she fully endorsed em on Twitter), and pretty much like throwing away your vote. You know damn well she ain’t in the running...
 
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I used to listen to both sides, (Republican and Democrat) and try to make up my mind who I thought would lead our country best. Then I watched the far left attempt to destroy Brett Kavanaugh’s life just to keep him from being a Supreme Court justice. What they did was evil. At that point I made up my mind that I would never bother looking at a Democrat running for office again. I will vote Republican from now on.
For the record, I have never voted for a Democrat and now I never will.
 
@rustyinbend

Hey bud I've never got to talk to anyone like you. I copied and pasted my post from earlier below. Can you quote this post and give me your thoughts. Please be thorough. Thanks man

I'm seriously not trying to sound like a dick here but this thread should really be titled "if your a never Trumper, what are you doing on a gun forum?"

Have you never Trumpers looked at bidens gun control plan on his website. I know all the liberals that have guns always say, all liberal politicians say that stuff but they will never actually do any of that stuff. What they don't realize is every day these liberal politicians write anti gun bills and eventually one of them is going to stick to the Wall. It might not be a big one but they will keep chipping away little by little until we are completely disarmed. That is a fact because people in power are never satisfied with anything, they want more and more.

Politics is simple.
1. Vote for the guy that won't raise your taxes.
2. Vote for the guy that won't take your guns away.
3. Vote for the guy that won't shut down your career.

To add to this though because I was called out on 2 of them. I did use generalizations in my 3 bullet points. To clarify a little on #2 if the government makes ownership of some of my firearms illegal and wants to take them away.... Let's see, I can act like a tough guy and have myself and most likely my family killed or just get rid of them.
On #3 I'm a union boilermaker and Obama did end my career.
 
@rustyinbend

Hey bud I've never got to talk to anyone like you. I copied and pasted my post from earlier below. Can you quote this post and give me your thoughts. Please be thorough. Thanks man

I'm seriously not trying to sound like a dick here but this thread should really be titled "if your a never Trumper, what are you doing on a gun forum?"

Have you never Trumpers looked at bidens gun control plan on his website. I know all the liberals that have guns always say, all liberal politicians say that stuff but they will never actually do any of that stuff. What they don't realize is every day these liberal politicians write anti gun bills and eventually one of them is going to stick to the Wall. It might not be a big one but they will keep chipping away little by little until we are completely disarmed. That is a fact because people in power are never satisfied with anything, they want more and more.

Politics is simple.
1. Vote for the guy that won't raise your taxes.
2. Vote for the guy that won't take your guns away.
3. Vote for the guy that won't shut down your career.

To add to this though because I was called out on 2 of them. I did use generalizations in my 3 bullet points. To clarify a little on #2 if the government makes ownership of some of my firearms illegal and wants to take them away.... Let's see, I can act like a tough guy and have myself and most likely my family killed or just get rid of them.
On #3 I'm a union boilermaker and Obama did end my career.
Thank god the founders decided to “act like tough guys” when the red coats came to seize their shit at Lexington/Concord... I pray we have many who will act like tough guys again if history should repeat itself.
 
The Democrats appear to have all gone insane to me. Even my own relatives have completely lost any sense of civility or family of unity over Hillary losing. Now this year with Covid and the mask debacle - they are absolutely maniacal. None can be reasoned with, and they wish death upon anyone not wearing a mask if they aren’t flying a BLM or Antifa flag. Insane I tell you!

Our traditional Thanksgiving and Christmas gatherings have been cancelled.
 
The Democrats appear to have all gone insane to me. Even my own relatives have completely lost any sense of civility or family of unity over Hillary losing. Now this year with Covid and the mask debacle - they are absolutely maniacal. None can be reasoned with, and they wish death upon anyone not wearing a mask if they aren’t flying a BLM or Antifa flag. Insane I tell you!

Our traditional Thanksgiving and Christmas gatherings have been cancelled.
This would be AWESOME! I'd much rather hang out with friends
 
The Democrats appear to have all gone insane to me. Even my own relatives have completely lost any sense of civility or family of unity over Hillary losing. Now this year with Covid and the mask debacle - they are absolutely maniacal. None can be reasoned with, and they wish death upon anyone not wearing a mask if they aren’t flying a BLM or Antifa flag. Insane I tell you!

Our traditional Thanksgiving and Christmas gatherings have been cancelled.


Little litmus test if you will allow me.....

Who pays for the Thanksgiving turkey?

Them?

or

Me?


It makes a difference.
 
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My question wasn't answered. Let's say you mailed it in just before the deadline for mail- ins (if there is one (deadline) in your state) and between that time and election day, you passed away. In other words, your ballot filled out by you is in the mail. How would they know that so your ballot would be invalid? Do they somehow check for that while counting ballots?
Misunderstood the question, understandable as it's a bit (a) rare, and (b) obscure. That's an interesting one ... a little like the question "What happens when an unstoppable force hits an immovable object?". In the situation you describe, where I mail my legally obtained and completed ballot, and then died before election day ... I suppose unless somebody notified the election board of the death, the vote would be counted. That said, in this case, we're not talking about "fraud" and there's certainly no "intent" there. I'd guess that God would forgive me for dying during that critical 10-day span ... and still allow me to enter Heaven based upon the preponderance of good I've done over the rest of my life. But that's just a theory ...

Late update ... this question is answered in THIS ARTICLE.
 
Not sure what I think about Romney. Like most Silver spoon politicians or billionaires who live for the spotlight instead of representing the folks who work hard, served their country, and pay taxes, I don’t trust them.
 
I do.
I have hosted and paid for the past 30 years.
Although I did ask them to bring what they wanted to drink.


Well Im guessing you pay out of your good guy largesse and ability/desire but....well you know what I meant.
 
Have nothing but respect for your service but on this we’ll have to disagree.
A vote for President is a vote to hire someone to do a job. I don’t care if they’re likable, if my kids or grandkids like them, or whether hes so likable they’ll make Tickle Me Donald dolls someday. I’m hiring an employee, period.
‘Based on resumes, which one you pick?
Likability is an emotion. Emotions are bullshit and usually wrong. There’s a bunch of idiots tearing shit up, burning shit and killing people and cops based purely on emotion. You want to validate that?
If you’re a history aficionado then you’re aware that pivotal points in history completely decide outcomes sometimes many years in the future. Choose wisely.
You mention grandkids. I have 4. You better check 6 because a wrong vote here is going to be damn hard to explain to them in future years.
‘One side offers them a possibility of a promising future. The other doesn’t. Who gives a shit whether they want to emulate a political figure. I would certainly hope not. If I were you I’d want them to emulate you.
We are way, way past where civility matters. Collaboration is a buzzword used by liberals. It means let’s steal whoever’s idea is the best and call it a “collaborative effort”.
If you want intellectual compromises then consider your choice wisely.
One pair of candidates wouldn’t mind ending the lives of unborn children, in some cases those already born, the other would never consider it.
One believes you should keep more of your own money and do with it as you please the other thinks they should have it because they know better.
One side stands for our homeland in every way, the other not so much.
One side fights for what they think is right the other just fights from behind others by innuendo and obfuscation.
One side believes in trade deals favoring our country, the other has repeatedly given our things away for personal benefits.
Due to bringing manufacturing, repatriation of offshore funds, corporate tax lowering and other points we have seen employment go to levels not seen before for minorities. (Using the one sides metrics if you’re against that then I guess you’re a racist lol)
Stock market and individual investments and retirement plans pushing or at new highs. Can’t tolerate the success?
All of the last few things END with the wrong choice in this election.
You want to FEEL good. Go buy some ice cream.
Elections of this magnitude are for serious people with serious thought and reflections. Emotions in the election process are for shit.
This is an excellent response. This election is very important. More so than some seem to think. Personality of either candidate is not what we're voting for.
 
I was wondering how this thread blew up to so many pages, but then I saw those new members weighing in with atypical political beliefs from the average user. This is the only forum I use now, so I'm curious. Is this happening on all the forums? New members obviously joining to cause dissent? Does it happen on quilting or model railroad forum? I wonder if some of this is that foreign interference we've read about. I really discounted it having an effect on the 2016 election, but in retrospect it seems like it does cause a lot of trouble.
 
I was wondering how this thread blew up to so many pages, but then I saw those new members weighing in with atypical political beliefs from the average user. This is the only forum I use now, so I'm curious. Is this happening on all the forums? New members obviously joining to cause dissent? Does it happen on quilting or model railroad forum? I wonder if some of this is that foreign interference we've read about. I really discounted it having an effect on the 2016 election, but in retrospect it seems like it does cause a lot of trouble.

Disregard the rag that wrote it, it is fascinating and to your point.

Apropos of this, it is my firm belief that we should never become like that. The idea of casting as enemies people who see things differently, but act honorably, is a terrible precedent. I might think the dude from Bend is wrong in the way he ranks his preferences in order to get to his vote for Biden, but to call him the enemy is an absurdity. There are plenty of really awful actors out there, let them be the enemy.
 
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