I am not certain that Kahles ever actually modified the optical formula for the K624i series regardless of generation, I believe it was updates to the multi-coating as well as reticles. Gen III introduced the SKMR series reticles (that I believe Jeff Huber was responsible for helping out with), but the Gen III was supposed to be an improvement on CA and was one of the worst performers (with regard to CA) of any high end scope I've used. I overlooked the CA issues for everything else it offered until the AMG came out, bought that scope and thought it was a better scope in almost every respect and it came in lighter and with a 30mm tube, even though it was 50mm it seemed to hold its own quite well compared to the 56mm K624i in low light.
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Been there and done that Will. That being said, I still think there is a market for Kahles scopes, many people are fans of the brand and are willing to sacrifice a bit on performance. The SKMR series reticles are still some of the most popular and work, the turrets as ILya mentioned are really good, though he mentioned in the video the Kahles had some of the quietest turrets it sounded more like the Schmidt and Minox had "quieter" turrets than the Kahles and my K318i turrets are louder than my ZP5 turrets if I remember (I'll have to test once I get the ZP5 back).
Another factor with many zero stop systems is they don't all stop at "zero" as their name implies, many stop somewhere beyond zero usually in the -.5 mil range, but not always, some can be .4 others .6 and so forth, yes, I understand why - if you need to shoot at something closer than your zero you can adjust, but unless I'm zeroing for ELR at 500y or beyond then I'm not sure there's a huge benefit because most of us zero at 100y and anything inside of 100y, unless it is tiny, is going to be hit without adjustment (ex: at 50y .5 mils is only .9 inches, I'd be curious how many are actually dialing under zero?). What I like about the Leupold is that it stops at zero and locks, but you can depress the lock and go under zero about .5 mil if you need to, but the lock will always pop at zero, again, just a beneficial feature IMO. Once they come out with a better mil reticle I will give them serious consideration again. But this is a topic to beat on for another day.
I own one, the K16i and its outstanding. Different category of optic for sure, but a winner nonetheless.
Not sure I follow. I just set my zero stops at minus .5 mils anyways. I think I would much rather set it where I wanted than to set it at zero and have it actually be back .4 or .5 mils.
I am going to guess he was the SH version of Gecko45?
Like I said, probably a topic for another thread, but real quick. My question is "why", why have a "zero stop" that doesn't actually "stop" at zero? Yes, I get that with different conditions your zero can change and many manufacture's put the extra in for "wiggle room" lets call it but instead of doing that, why not make a better zero stop design which can easily be adjusted, but maybe this is where the Tangent Theta's unique tool-less reset really comes into play, my March scopes also had a very easy zero stop feature that I really liked as well. Some scopes allow you to adjust exactly where you want the zero stop to stop, but others force this upon you and most zero stop configurations are a pain to deal with on the fly. Maybe it's more of a mental thing and I just need to wrap my mind around it better - if my Schmidt stops at .6 mil under, my ZP5 stops at .5 mil under and my Kahles stops at .4 mil under that's a jumbled mess in my brain, I don't want to have to remember if I'm shooting one rifle or the other, I want to know that when I dial down and the turret stops, that it stopped at zero and not have to think, "now that it stopped, how much do I have to dial back up to actually get to zero". Most of the time that I shoot I am not under stress and am able to confirm zero by simply looking at the turret, but I would prefer the zero stop to be easily set and easily changed, but to always stop on zero. Again, it could just be the way my brain works and I just need to get over it.
I am guessing the fellow either:
I know you've sent the ZP5 back, but curious your thoughts on the M7Xi and ZP5 especially with regard to low light performance, color, contrast and depth.
