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Lots of presses have shipped, more are shipping today, more tomorrow. We have tried to be geographically strategic to get as many to doorsteps by Christmas as possible. We never, ever wanted any of these to arrive after Christmas, but unfortunately it looks like some may miss. We hate it more than we can express.
Some turrets have shipped. More ship today, more tomorrow. This has been the case for a week or so as we push through QC/assembly/pack/ship. Unfortunately this isn't any version of instantaneous, and every little bogus delay with a vendor or outside process costs days and days. As we have been slow shipping we have held off on re-opening the pre-order. Hopefully by tomorrow we will have all customer orders shipped and orders for the March batch (it might be April, really really difficult to predict some of these things) opened up.
Some turrets have shipped. More ship today, more tomorrow. This has been the case for a week or so as we push through QC/assembly/pack/ship. Unfortunately this isn't any version of instantaneous, and every little bogus delay with a vendor or outside process costs days and days. As we have been slow shipping we have held off on re-opening the pre-order. Hopefully by tomorrow we will have all customer orders shipped and orders for the March batch (it might be April, really really difficult to predict some of these things) opened up.
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Tracking says mine’s 30 minutes away, but estimated delivery is 5 days from now. Hoping all the extras I ordered are with it.
The Inline Fab Ultra mount I already have is too tall and the bench mount is too short. Sadly Inline is a few days out for their 4" mount.
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I just have it (not very well) clamped on the bench for now. Deciding what mount to go with. Likely the big dog.
My idea for blanking off a spot and using it for an inverted arbor press crashed and burned. We blanked on off with a threaded rod. It took took much more effort than an actual arbor press. Oh well. This is why I’m not an engineer.
My idea for blanking off a spot and using it for an inverted arbor press crashed and burned. We blanked on off with a threaded rod. It took took much more effort than an actual arbor press. Oh well. This is why I’m not an engineer.
Just came in and got it mounted. Sized a couple 6 dasher to test it out and then gonna try some 300 Sherman mags. I was skeptical when ordering it but I’m getting convinced.
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So I was able to size a couple hundred pieces of dasher brass which left some impressions.
I currently have a co-ax, Redding T-7 and a rockchucker to compare to. Using redding shell holders and whidden custom dies. Using mitutoyo calipers and dial indicator for measurements below.
Some initial takeaway. The ram is huge. The shell holder on a T-7 looks like it’s a same size as the ram. On the zero the shell holder gets swallowed up in there new shell holder system. The bottom of the downstroke feels like a rubber band that starts to snap back and helps kickstart the upstroke. Area 419 goes into this in depth so thats all I’ll say on that.
The big dog steel mount is awesome and I love the turret holders on the back. If you get a zero spend the extra money and get the big dog mount. Super solid and was very easy to install on my bench.
Sized the first 30 pieces and 29 had identical headspace measurements. The last one was .0005 off. Continued to check every 5 rounds and headspace stayed the same for the rest of the 645 pieces of brass in the lot. Runout was awesome. The dies help but the largest amount of runout I measured was .001. I had some that got to .00025 but the rest hovered in the .0005. The normal runout on my co-ax is .001-.002 which isn’t a huge difference but it was slightly better using the same dies and brass. Is it noticeable on paper? I don’t think it matters for prs but that was what I saw.
Overall i like it and will keep using it. I do wish the had designed it to fit an inline case eject system instead of an add on like the rockchucker.
I currently have a co-ax, Redding T-7 and a rockchucker to compare to. Using redding shell holders and whidden custom dies. Using mitutoyo calipers and dial indicator for measurements below.
Some initial takeaway. The ram is huge. The shell holder on a T-7 looks like it’s a same size as the ram. On the zero the shell holder gets swallowed up in there new shell holder system. The bottom of the downstroke feels like a rubber band that starts to snap back and helps kickstart the upstroke. Area 419 goes into this in depth so thats all I’ll say on that.
The big dog steel mount is awesome and I love the turret holders on the back. If you get a zero spend the extra money and get the big dog mount. Super solid and was very easy to install on my bench.
Sized the first 30 pieces and 29 had identical headspace measurements. The last one was .0005 off. Continued to check every 5 rounds and headspace stayed the same for the rest of the 645 pieces of brass in the lot. Runout was awesome. The dies help but the largest amount of runout I measured was .001. I had some that got to .00025 but the rest hovered in the .0005. The normal runout on my co-ax is .001-.002 which isn’t a huge difference but it was slightly better using the same dies and brass. Is it noticeable on paper? I don’t think it matters for prs but that was what I saw.
Overall i like it and will keep using it. I do wish the had designed it to fit an inline case eject system instead of an add on like the rockchucker.
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Also, what shell holder/s is everyone using? Been using a co-ax, so I just tossed whatever random holder I had in the bin. I’m bottomed out before I can get shoulders for move. Not a big deal taking some off the holder.
Just curious what holders people having good luck with.
Just curious what holders people having good luck with.
Redding work awesome. You need to have the die about .100 of an inch higher than the shell holder compared to about .010 on a redding T-7.
I'm just going to use generic RCBS shell holders until 419 releases the ones they're working on. I was using them with my CoAx already.
I mean, do you even reload? I don't see any type of messiness going on.
Jk looks great, I like my bench clean and simple.
I decided on cancelling my Zero Press order. Congrats on who took my spot. I realized that I have other priorities with the next year of shooting, and other Area419 goodies on the way soon.
I mean, do you even reload? I don't see any type of messiness going on.
Jk looks great, I like my bench clean and simple.
I decided on cancelling my Zero Press order. Congrats on who took my spot. I realized that I have other priorities with the next year of shooting, and other Area419 goodies on the way soon.
I have everything cleared off the bench because I'm reorganizing. I'm planning to consolidate all of the dies on the wall into the tool heads of the Zero press but I'm waiting on the second tool head. I have other presses and a Inline Fab quick change mount on my other bench. The Zero is replacing a CoAx.
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The part to blank off a die spot is being made, just a matter of production timelines and getting things back in stock. Lots of capacity being added right now, but it wont turn into a flow of new parts for a solid 2 months.
Why though? for an extra bit of flat real estate?
I’d rather have a die bushing/housing made with battery powdered LED lighting
I think the ram needs to be at the top of the stroke for the leverage to feel right with the arbor dies.
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The feel is pretty bad with it blanked off and a Wilson die in there. Not enough room to really do much.
There were a flurry of guys in here that wanted them, so we figured we'd run a handful and play with them, see what happened. We may hate them and never make a large run, but may like them. Only one way to find out.
Zero arrived today, headed off to the lumber store, my bench is too short for my taste, my kids and pretty well reach everything so i’m adding 18” blocks under the legs.
I’ll be really set with the autotrickler comes around.
I’ll be really set with the autotrickler comes around.
Let there be light!
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EVISWIY Sewing Machine Light LED Lighting (30LEDs) 6 Watt Multifunctional Flexible Gooseneck Arm Work Lamp with Magnetic Mounting Base for Workbench Lathe Drill Press 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZNR9JCT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_NFN6FbAQ7N2X3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
It's worth mentioning, the lights are bright and one is really all that is needed. Two were in the box though.
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How do you like your General? I've got a S900 I was thinking about selling for a General XP.
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I’m enjoying mine the more I use it. I generally run 3-500 pieces of brass through sizer and mandrel a week. Sometimes more and sometimes less. But that’s about average.
The biggest thing for me is how easy it is on my arm/elbow/shoulder. Much more pleasant to run than my co-ax. And while definitely robust, it’s not a very big footprint. I currently have it clamped down pretty securely. Waiting on a big dog mount, but might just run it clamped down like this.
The turret is very convenient
I honestly don’t expect anything to change on performance of my ammo. But I’m pretty happy with purchase so far.
The biggest thing for me is how easy it is on my arm/elbow/shoulder. Much more pleasant to run than my co-ax. And while definitely robust, it’s not a very big footprint. I currently have it clamped down pretty securely. Waiting on a big dog mount, but might just run it clamped down like this.
The turret is very convenient
I honestly don’t expect anything to change on performance of my ammo. But I’m pretty happy with purchase so far.
I like to open the box, look at it a bit, close the box. I even put the handle on once and pumped the ram, and turned the turret a few times, it’s quite pleasing.
Even have a big dawg mount, but I looked at my bench and said this needs an overhaul before I mount it.
Would be like framing the mona lisa with one of those plastic poster frames from a bit box store.
I’m going to add 14” in height to the table legs, sand blast and powder coat it black.
Even have a big dawg mount, but I looked at my bench and said this needs an overhaul before I mount it.
Would be like framing the mona lisa with one of those plastic poster frames from a bit box store.
I’m going to add 14” in height to the table legs, sand blast and powder coat it black.
I love this - it's like my wife buying a new piece of decor or furniture and deciding to go ahead and repaint a room so it goes together - only way more awesome. You should take some before/after photos. The ZERO out here making reloading benches better places around the world.
I’m going to stay with the black and silver theme, had my homemade wet tumbler powder coated in ripple black like a harley, thinking it will do good on the bench also.
The General has been good, it's got enough utility to use around the property and still does great on trail rides.
I was waiting on an email from A 419 to let me know when these presses came back in stock through their website. Never got one but was able to get one in the cart and check out. Still waiting on bunch of stuff from first week of Dec. as well. Guess it will be a surprise when it shows. So if your waiting on a notification maybe just keep checking.
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Currently, anytime they are available to order and checkout, it’s a pre-order.
Our restock emails are commonly sorted into spam, but they definitely went out. Figured we would give the people that actively follow us a few days to get an order in, then next week push out an email to finish off this production round.
The new mount came. The height is perfect now with the handle lowered about 1.5". Still waiting on extra turrets.
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Fuck that. Who even loads on a single stage any more. Other than sizing cases I do everything on an arbor press with inline dies. Doesn’t everyone do it this way?
Lots of spare turrets have been shipping this week. If you haven't seen a notification, shoot an email with your name/order number to info@area419.com and nudge the CS team.
Also, the March/April round is about 85% sold, so if you want one of those, I bet there's about a week left before those orders close for 2-3 months.
Also, the March/April round is about 85% sold, so if you want one of those, I bet there's about a week left before those orders close for 2-3 months.
OH - and Die Rings are available in limited quantities. More being made next week. I know some of you here already got your orders in and there are a pile in the mail stream, interested in your thoughts on them. https://www.area419.com/product/zero-die-ring-multi-packs/