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73/75 eldms are working real nice for me.
Thank you for the update And that is the best fricken news I have heard in a long time.
I wonder what the hell they could be waiting on from Desert? I thought they engineered and made all the 223 parts?
I too ordered the 26” long chambered barrel.
I have seen a good amount of people with great results with the 75gr ELD. But that was handloads.
I ordered a bolt too. As to anything else, I don’t know.
I hate to say this but I hope your order is waiting on a bolt and my order will ship in a week. ?
fgmm?
What kind of barrel life are you guys expecting in that 223 Conversion Kit from SAC? (with the Bartlein barrel)
Federal Gold Medal Match ammo.
I’m hoping a minimum of 5000 rounds. My Tikka is now starting to open up with close to 9000 rounds.
Does anyone have the program file to 3d print a single shot sled for SRS? I’ve seen a few for sale but I’ve got a 3d printer sitting idle. Thanks
On my sac 223 I am at 2000 still sub1/4
This is what mine will do when I do my part. From the fat belly prone and bipod rear bag 
You should be able to go faster. I'm getting 3000 with a 75gr ELD-M out of my 26" barrel.
I didn't chronograph that load, but Quickload (which I have found to usually be pretty accurate) has it at 3279 fps from a 26" barrel. Also, please note that this is an above listed maximum load. It shows no pressure signs in my rifle, but that might not be the case in yours, so approach with caution.
What I can say for certain is that it's an awesome varmint load!
What I can say for certain is that it's an awesome varmint load!
I have 6 conversion kits for my DTA. The SAC 223 is definitely my favorite. In my humble opinion, it's a "must have" if you own a DTA.
I have thought of the SAC conversion, but I don't shoot a lot of .223 and I figure for $1700 I can shoot around 1700 rounds of 6.5 Creedmoor...I also have a few gas guns in 223/556 and I can shoot them if need be.
Quite the addiction
I'm looking at a SAC 223 kit but so far the high cost that comes with exporting it to Europe has held me off...
My .223AI is definitely my favorite conversion, all of my others have been collecting dust since I got it.
mind sharing some details of your 223 AI ? Sorry if you already have the 238 pages is a lot to read through!
The AI feeds great, I’ve been shooting 80gr eld’s And 53gr vmax. Shoots both absolutely incredible. Not sure if I have the only that Mark has built or not, I haven’t heard of any others.
If I didn’t have a different rifle in 223ai I would also have a conversion chambered in it. Really fun round.
Couple friends just picked up rpr rimfires , i was thinking it would be fun if there was a srs 22lr conversion , lol.
If so, from .22 LR to 37XC. Pretty wide array of calibers!
Though I think the 223 SAC conversion is the basement on calibers. The chassis can’t do everything , but it would be cool to have a real heavy 22LR.
Though I think the 223 SAC conversion is the basement on calibers. The chassis can’t do everything , but it would be cool to have a real heavy 22LR.
Would it be possible to have someone else make a barrel for the SAC 223 Conversion Kit?
Re-using the SAC barrel extension but using for example a Proof Research DTSRS 224 blank?
Or would you need a barrel blueprint?
Re-using the SAC barrel extension but using for example a Proof Research DTSRS 224 blank?
Or would you need a barrel blueprint?
I think the problem is the special parts they have designed in the kit. Like the magazine, bolt head and lug extension. So long as you have those parts I don’t see why a talented gunsmith familiar with DT wouldn’t be able to take measurements and remove the lug extension and spin a barrel for you. But I would only go this route if SAC closed their doors for some shity reason. That would be my only reason for having someone else make a 223 barrel.
Keep in mind they don’t sell the magazine, bolt head and other parts separate from the barrel unless you have already bought the complete kit.
Not trying to bypass Short Action Customs, on the contrary! I want to get everything from them, I respect the work that they did developing the 223 Conversion Kit and I hear great things about their quality.
However, as I'm not from the USA I will pay a hefty export/import tax so I was wondering if the next barrel could be sourced locally.
But of course based on all the parts from the SAC conversion kit.
I figured that was what you were getting at. Just wanted to throw all the details at you so you were fully aware. I’m sure they would also understand your position so you send them an email about how easy it would be for another smith to make another barrel and swap extension when the time comes. SAC is very friendly, down to earth and easy to work with.
Not sure of the max, but I'm loading out to 2.865 with no problem.
Wow, that's long!
Yeah, I'm using 77gr Lapua Scenars which are very long to begin with, then I'm loading them .004 off the lands. My barrel has the longer throat option but still shoots the shorter light bullets well too. Gotta love SACs work!Wow, that's long!
I traded off my A1 300 Norma about 18 months ago due to the weight and have been regretting it ever since. The more I drool over the A2 the more I want to get back into the DT platform, especially since I started shooting and hunting suppressed.
Is the A2 with a Proof barrel going to be substantially lighter or am I just kidding myself? I personally don't mind the weight but Idaho has a stupid 16 lb limit for legal hunting rifles.
I'll be using a 5-25 ATACR, Atlas and TBAC 338 Ultra. Before you all say to get a lighter scope, it's not happening, love my ATACR.
Is the A2 with a Proof barrel going to be substantially lighter or am I just kidding myself? I personally don't mind the weight but Idaho has a stupid 16 lb limit for legal hunting rifles.
I'll be using a 5-25 ATACR, Atlas and TBAC 338 Ultra. Before you all say to get a lighter scope, it's not happening, love my ATACR.
im moving over to an A2 covert and hoping to hunt with it. I’m considering a light contour barrel from ES Tactical and a Minox scope. I believe I’ll scoot under 12 or even 11.5 lbs.
I have the A2 and Minox. Weight is one ounce heavier than the covert. I can weigh it without the barrel, if you want.
Looks like covert with 18” 6.5CM fluted barrel would be 8.3 lbs, per the DTA website. Minox is 2.2lbs, and my mount is .6 lbs.
So 11.1 lbs total unloaded if I go with a lighter or shorter barrel. Right now I will run my 6.5CM 26” from my A1, which will probably be a half pound heavier, and research other cartridges to see what might fit the bill for my needs. A2 should arrive Thursday at my FFL. Thanks @PRDRIVER !
Lots of discussion about the weight and everyone seems to post what their complete rifle weighs. That’s helpful to the point where someone needs to hit a 16lb restriction.
Here’s my take:
A1 Covert Chassis + Skins, monopod removed: 4 lb 8 oz
Buttpad, no spacers: 7 oz
Buttpad spacer, each: 2.6 oz
A1 Bolt, “308”: 12.2 oz
A2 Bolt, “308”: 12.0 oz
SA 6 Rd Mag, empty: 6.5 oz
Monopod: 5.6 oz
RRS ARCA Plate: 6.2 oz
ARC M10 QD-L 30mm mount: 8.5 oz
260 Rem barrel, fluted barrel and tenon, 27”, .920 muzzle with Area 419 adapter: 5 lb 4 oz
300 Win Mag barrel, non fluted, 27”, .850 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 5 lb 1 oz
6xc barrel, non fluted, 27”, .875 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 5 lb 5 oz
308 barrel, non fluted, 17”, .890 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 3 lb 8 oz
450 Bushmaster barrel, non fluted, 23”, .920 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 4 lb 6 oz
260 Rem barrel, non fluted, 19”, .875 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 4 lb 6 oz
Add up what you’ll need, pick your rings/mount, add your scope weight and total weight of ammo and you should be good.
The A2 chassis saves about a pound, so hopefully someone else can post the exact weight with the bolt, buttpad, magazine removed.
Here’s my take:
A1 Covert Chassis + Skins, monopod removed: 4 lb 8 oz
Buttpad, no spacers: 7 oz
Buttpad spacer, each: 2.6 oz
A1 Bolt, “308”: 12.2 oz
A2 Bolt, “308”: 12.0 oz
SA 6 Rd Mag, empty: 6.5 oz
Monopod: 5.6 oz
RRS ARCA Plate: 6.2 oz
ARC M10 QD-L 30mm mount: 8.5 oz
260 Rem barrel, fluted barrel and tenon, 27”, .920 muzzle with Area 419 adapter: 5 lb 4 oz
300 Win Mag barrel, non fluted, 27”, .850 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 5 lb 1 oz
6xc barrel, non fluted, 27”, .875 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 5 lb 5 oz
308 barrel, non fluted, 17”, .890 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 3 lb 8 oz
450 Bushmaster barrel, non fluted, 23”, .920 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 4 lb 6 oz
260 Rem barrel, non fluted, 19”, .875 muzzle, Area 419 adapter, 4 lb 6 oz
Add up what you’ll need, pick your rings/mount, add your scope weight and total weight of ammo and you should be good.
The A2 chassis saves about a pound, so hopefully someone else can post the exact weight with the bolt, buttpad, magazine removed.
