One protester shot and killed in Austin. Approached the wrong car with a rifle and the driver went 'hot.'

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Antifa is using democrats. Democrats know this but must go along for the ride and at this point may even see mutual benefit. But this relationship will likely turn toxic at some point.

Also, liberals would not be supporting antifa. At least the liberals I know...but perhaps they are "grandad" type liberals.

Just my 2 cents.
The left loves confusion, hence terms like assault weapons. I'll admit I'm a little confused & tend to throw leftists & liberals in the same reject bin. I don't think true Libertarians like John Stossel, Rand Paul, & Ron Paul. Along with a few old school libertarian leaning Dem's (Joe Lieberman comes to mind) would have anything to do with Antifa.

I think maybe the liberals you know, like some of my acquaintances fall more into the Libertarian end of the spectrum
I have a lot of common ground with true libertarian's, live and let live, small gov, limit big brother, etc. We part ways with regards to foriegn policy though.

You know what happens when the water gets low in the swamp! I think this is exactly what we're seeing play out. The worst of the swamp creatures are revealed & putting up a heel of a fight. They are vulnerable & becoming desperate.

We desperately need 4 more years to begin ridding the swamp of the now exposed Congressmen, Senators, Governors, Mayors, Generals, Judges, and DA's.
Very hopeful that when Trump wins, gloves will come off. Same goes for the more old school Dem liberals in Gov. from whom there has been silence. They have to worry about their base (increasingly Leftist), or getting primaried by a Bloomberg/Soros backed radical leftist should they fall out of line.

Shits going to get interesting in Nov. either way.

Trump before the election.

Trump after the election!
 

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What I know is this, after driving through the once neat and well kept old neighborhoods and streets of Austin where I grew up, with every street sign and retaining wall now covered with nonsensical graffiti and anti Trump profanity, the residents are still Democrats, siding with and outright lying to spin the truth about those that just trashed their city.
 
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The left loves confusion, hence terms like assault weapons. I'll admit I'm a little confused & tend to throw leftists & liberals in the same reject bin. I don't think true Libertarians like John Stossel, Rand Paul, & Ron Paul. Along with a few old school libertarian leaning Dem's (Joe Lieberman comes to mind) would have anything to do with Antifa.

I think maybe the liberals you know, like some of my acquaintances fall more into the Libertarian end of the spectrum
I have a lot of common ground with true libertarian's, live and let live, small gov, limit big brother, etc. We part ways with regards to foriegn policy though.

You know what happens when the water gets low in the swamp! I think this is exactly what we're seeing play out. The worst of the swamp creatures are revealed & putting up a heel of a fight. They are vulnerable & becoming desperate.

We desperately need 4 more years to begin ridding the swamp of the now exposed Congressmen, Senators, Governors, Mayors, Generals, Judges, and DA's.
Very hopeful that when Trump wins, gloves will come off. Same goes for the more old school Dem liberals in Gov. from whom there has been silence. They have to worry about their base (increasingly Leftist), or getting primaried by a Bloomberg/Soros backed radical leftist should they fall out of line.

Shits going to get interesting in Nov. either way.

Trump before the election.

Trump after the election!
I don’t think they are going to let Trump win and the General public is too stupid to think for themselves so they’ll buy it. Guess we will see. I don’t think Trump is the end all be all tho as he has had 4 years and while supposedly fighting tooth and nail, no real results of the swamp drainage can be seen. Sure some peeps lost their jobs but aside from that?
 
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I don’t think they are going to let Trump win and the General public is too stupid to think for themselves so they’ll buy it. Guess we will see. I don’t think Trump is the end all be all tho as he has had 4 years and while supposedly fighting tooth and nail, no real results of the swamp drainage can be seen. Sure some peeps lost their jobs but aside from that?
You thought / think the swamp things are just going to allow the draining?
Represented republic moves slow by design, checks & balances aren’t immediate.
Have to beat the coup before swamp draining can get started.
Swamp has been expanding for 100ish years, you expect Trump to effectively drain swamp in 4 years?
There is a reason left is going all in to beat Trump.
 

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Some interesting food for thought,
It is very possible the Democrat/Communist/SJW/BLM/ANTIFA cabal and their paid goons are working very hard to try to get a "violent" response from the side of decent folks.

So far it really hasn't worked out as they hoped and they haven't been able to get the great propaganda shots they wanted.

IF this is the case and IF the decent folks are able to avoid being forced to directly engage, give this unrest and mayhem a few more months and it may turn out to totally blow up in the Democrat/Communist faces as everybody left that actually works for a living slowly migrates to the F.... This, we need a bit of law and order so we can actually pay the bills.

Much like that CHOP place, it was left to it's own devices and became so bad, killing too many Blacks, that the Communist loving mayor was forced to shut it down after championing it so hard.

That being said, I REALLY think folks on the good and decent side should go dig out the history books and documentaries and actual footage and study up on the rise of the National Socialist Party in Germany. The tactics, organization structure, action structure, and political response from the politicians looks strikingly similar. Just instead of "Brown Shirts" we have 'Black Hoodies".
My thoughts exactly. The leftists are hoping to evoke a violent response from us in order to back up their their false generalization of the conservative populace. They are trying to elicit a Waco / Ruby Ridge catastrophy before the election.
 

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You thought / think the swamp things are just going to allow the draining?
Represented republic moves slow by design, checks & balances aren’t immediate.
Have to beat the coup before swamp draining can get started.
Swamp has been expanding for 100ish years, you expect Trump to effectively drain swamp in 4 years?
There is a reason left is going all in to beat Trump.
I mean all in, including burning the country and economy down if they have to. Never has this country been under such an attack. Zuckerberg or whatever that pink-eyed fucker's name is and Facebook, Google, Twitter, the media, former friends and family members, everybody is against us 'nationalists'. The last hold outs of a once great nation.
 
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Gun Rule 101. A gun is not a statement and gun is a weapon design to destroy or kill. Don't point a gun at anything you don't want destroyed. Point a gun at me I assume to destroy me I shoot to kill and repeat until threat is stopped.
Lesson learned the hard(est) way.
 

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I mean all in, including burning the country and economy down if they have to. Never has this country been under such an attack. Zuckerberg or whatever that pink-eyed fucker's name is and Facebook, Google, Twitter, the media, former friends and family members, everybody is against us 'nationalists'. The last hold outs of a once great nation.
Fat lady hasn’t sung just yet.
Keep positive, keep moving forward, organize and don’t just post (talk is cheap, actions speak volumes) but get involved at local, state level as much as possible. Nobody said keeping the Republic would be easy.
 
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Fat lady hasn’t sung just yet.
Keep positive, keep moving forward, organize and don’t just post (talk is cheap, actions speak volumes) but get involved at local, state level as much as possible. Nobody said keeping the Republic would be easy.
You're preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I tried to rally the locals in case the Left decided to bring their 'peaceful protest' out here and all I got was the Walmart look :(.
Not sure who, where to contact here in Central Texas. Pretty frustrating when you can't get people woke.
 
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You thought / think the swamp things are just going to allow the draining?
Represented republic moves slow by design, checks & balances aren’t immediate.
Have to beat the coup before swamp draining can get started.
Swamp has been expanding for 100ish years, you expect Trump to effectively drain swamp in 4 years?
There is a reason left is going all in to beat Trump.
Nope. Never said it would be easy, but it sure as hell cant all rely solely on Trump either. Either there is a shitload of people behind the scenes running contingency plans for all parties or everyone is getting played. Time will tell, but how long are people willing to let it go? Trust the plan they say, what if the plan fails? The plans requires people to wake up and be part of the movement. Not seeing that on a large scale. Disinformation is being sowed as we speak on a grand scale. So much so that deciphering truth is damn near impossible these days which leads to some seriously dangerous outcomes. What good is the country and it’s wealth to anyone if it’s all ashes? Will come back to that later, maybe. November will be interesting. The best move is unity, not divisiveness.

You're preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I tried to rally the locals in case the Left decided to bring their 'peaceful protest' out here and all I got was the Walmart look :(.
Not sure who, where to contact here in Central Texas. Pretty frustrating when you can't get people woke.
Exactly. And the plans requires people to be enlightened, so to speak. If the people don’t absorb the knowledge that should be blatantly evident then everything fails. And, considering most people cannot think for themselves these days, I’m not sure “the plan” is going to work. Time will tell, I guess. Most people just do as they are told or what they have always done. Mindless drones.
 
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You're preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I tried to rally the locals in case the Left decided to bring their 'peaceful protest' out here and all I got was the Walmart look :(.
Not sure who, where to contact here in Central Texas. Pretty frustrating when you can't get people woke.
Preach to choir.
Preach to any who will listen.
Tactful, respectful and try to get them to think. Present well, minimize ranting and raving, ask a few questions too. Many times the questions will spark a change as quick, if not quicker, then just presenting "your" side.
 

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Preach to choir.
Preach to any who will listen.
Tactful, respectful and try to get them to think. Present well, minimize ranting and raving, ask a few questions too. Many times the questions will spark a change as quick, if not quicker, then just presenting "your" side.
Many bots don’t want to listen, hence most of the problem.
 

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Many bots don’t want to listen, hence most of the problem.
Like triage, make best call you can with information you have to minimize time on those who won't listen.
I agree with you, many don't want to listen.
There will be a percentage that come back to you, asking for more information though.
Some hear and understand but don't know what to do with the information.
Internet is a wonderful source of misinformation, many have forgotten how to reason, think critically.
Isn't going to be easy, that is a given.
This isn't about a 2 month, 2 quarter or 2 year plan but a 2 decade or longer plan. Current situation has been brewing for 30, 60 years or longer so expecting it to change quickly is just setting yourself up for frustration.
 

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Like triage, make best call you can with information you have to minimize time on those who won't listen.
I agree with you, many don't want to listen.
There will be a percentage that come back to you, asking for more information though.
Some hear and understand but don't know what to do with the information.
Internet is a wonderful source of misinformation, many have forgotten how to reason, think critically.
Isn't going to be easy, that is a given.
This isn't about a 2 month, 2 quarter or 2 year plan but a 2 decade or longer plan. Current situation has been brewing for 30, 60 years or longer so expecting it to change quickly is just setting yourself up for frustration.
I, for one, appreciate the constructive encouragement. I railed about the situation, the more I see the communist flood washing over the country, the more it shows the complete ineffectiveness of the Right. I howl at a buddy on a regular basis who was a world class IPSC shooter in the 80's how we've been playing these mock games of shootouts for going on half a century now and we let a bunch of skateboard riding trash that weren't even alive much less own own any guns when we were shooting and designing gun parts, we let them burn down major cities and threaten to burn our own houses down.

He said he was going to come up with an app and we both came up with names of trusted people we could trust to come running and let me tell you, it wasn't many.
 

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I, for one, appreciate the constructive encouragement. I railed about the situation, the more I see the communist flood washing over the country, the more it shows the complete ineffectiveness of the Right. I howl at a buddy on a regular basis who was a world class IPSC shooter in the 80's how we've been playing these mock games of shootouts for going on half a century now and we let a bunch of skateboard riding trash that weren't even alive much less own own any guns when we were shooting and designing gun parts, we let them burn down major cities and threaten to burn our own houses down.

He said he was going to come up with an app and we both came up with names of trusted people we could trust to come running and let me tell you, it wasn't many.
Hmmmmm....tell us more about this app! And I think your numbers mimic lots of peoples experiences here. But remember, I guess at the founding they felt pretty defeated as well. Got to keep pushing forward.
 

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Hmmmmm....tell us more about this app! And I think your numbers mimic lots of peoples experiences here. But remember, I guess at the founding they felt pretty defeated as well. Got to keep pushing forward.
He said the problem was he needed to find a frequency, or whatever those smart guys use, that was secure and ease dropper proof, that apps can be easily hacked. The enemy's generation is super tech savvy, whereas I'm just one step above using a payphone.
I am thinking of swinging by my local VFD and talk to them.
 

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You're preaching to the choir, I'm afraid. I tried to rally the locals in case the Left decided to bring their 'peaceful protest' out here and all I got was the Walmart look :(.
Not sure who, where to contact here in Central Texas. Pretty frustrating when you can't get people woke.
I'm in Belton and will gladly join forces with you.
 
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Thank you sir. We need to work to fill the gap between Bell and Travis, Burnet Co. with patriots. I'll be working on this end. I think it's going to get sporty in Nov.
 

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He said the problem was he needed to find a frequency, or whatever those smart guys use, that was secure and ease dropper proof, that apps can be easily hacked. The enemy's generation is super tech savvy, whereas I'm just one step above using a payphone.
I am thinking of swinging by my local VFD and talk to them.
Thank you sir. We need to work to fill the gap between Bell and Travis, Burnet Co. with patriots. I'll be working on this end. I think it's going to get sporty in Nov.

Thats funny and about where I am as to tech savy.

I used to own a small place in Llano and dont think the antifags will fare very well if they decide to invade that area or Burnet Co. I got stopped one time and was asked by the local cop "Why dont you have your gun." LOL My friend Bill Edwards is Constable of Llano Co. If your in the Kingsland area drop by his office and tell him Howard from Virginia told you to stop in. He used to give the SEALs long range shooting instruction.
 

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Thats funny and about where I am as to tech savy.

I used to own a small place in Llano and dont think the antifags will fare very well if they decide to invade that area or Burnet Co. I got stopped one time and was asked by the local cop "Why dont you have your gun." LOL My friend Bill Edwards is Constable of Llano Co. If your in the Kingsland area drop by his office and tell him Howard from Virginia told you to stop in. He used to give the SEALs long range shooting instruction.
Man I love Llano, and not just for Cooper's. That was the fantasy land a buddy and I were going to run away to when we were kids, to hunt and trap the Llano River. I could recite Fred Gibson's Hound Dog Man like scripture.

My buddy made good on his dream and retired up there. If you flew, I bet you also know Joey Gordon too, a retired Texas Ranger that flies and lives up there.

If I can talk my g/f into it I'd move up there.

I'm currently down the road here in Spicewood.
 

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Man I love Llano, and not just for Cooper's. That was the fantasy land a buddy and I were going to run away to when we were kids, to hunt and trap the Llano River. I could recite Fred Gibson's Hound Dog Man like scripture.

My buddy made good on his dream and retired up there. If you flew, I bet you also know Joey Gordon too, a retired Texas Ranger that flies and lives up there.

If I can talk my g/f into it I'd move up there.

I'm currently down the road here in Spicewood.
My father was a captain for TWA but I never got the bug, dont know Joey. Coopers is the well known place but I preferred Inman's. They arent so bulk and take a bit more time with the brisket, which is my go to. Next time I get out that way we'll have to catch up for a brew and some BBQ.
 

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My father was a captain for TWA but I never got the bug, dont know Joey. Coopers is the well known place but I preferred Inman's. They arent so bulk and take a bit more time with the brisket, which is my go to. Next time I get out that way we'll have to catch up for a brew and some BBQ.
I like Inmans turkey sausage. I agree with you about Cooper's brisket. We have an Inmans in Marble Falls does good brisket. Im headed up there now to Home Depot and may stop for some.
Let me know when you're in Llano.
 
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How exactly can we help?
Like FCS put it :
"Preach to choir.
Preach to any who will listen.
Tactful, respectful and try to get them to think. Present well, minimize ranting and raving, ask a few questions too. Many times the questions will spark a change as quick, if not quicker, then just presenting "your" side."


Talk to people who aren't afraid, too busy or bothered to face what everyone will be facing in the near future. Go old school. This country exists because people banded together into one force. Sitting at home saying its none of my business until they come to my house is not what won this country.

Interact with people and form alliances. MC clubs call them chapters and if & when the shtf all those chapters come running; a well armed, organized militia, just like the founding fathers instructed.
 
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